have any other archers noticed.....

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bishibosh

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that since last patch, the draw/unstealth chance for normal shot is as it was before, but almost all crit shots unstealth you? is it just realy bad luck on my part, a bug, or a subtle nerf by mythic to downgrade us since camo is just sooooo (sarcasm) good....
 
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Glottis_Xanadu

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Mythic, in their eternal wisdom must have thought that the see hidden nerfind or archers was not quite enough.
I mean, it is SOO unfair that you could possible align a critical shot while hidden. I mean, shoot from 2100 range into a bubble with a CS, that is MADNESS I tell you, should not happen! The 0 damage you do! Way too much.
Mythic has in the past put in some sneaky "tweaks", so would not be surprised. But anyway, did not know that people even used CS anymore, everybody and their mum has a bt on them.
And I mean, you guys did get that great camouflage.. I mean, that simply kicks ass. Now everybody is scared of scouts again...
Regards, Glottis
 
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loxleyhood

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>Drinks his woes in a tavern, lamenting the torturous death of scouts.<
 
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bishibosh

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crit shot should penetrate pbt dammit, it not like it ever works anyway so they may as well give us that.... but what would they nerf to put us back to being the producers of the food chain.... how about the 1h sword we gets requires 2 hands, like the hunter's basicly 1H spear, one to hold the sword and the other to hold infront of us incase we fall over hehe
 
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old.Odysseus

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Oh dont you worry, more nerfs are coming in the next few patches (not documented in patch notes ofc):

-increased drawtime
-increased misses
-increased fumbles
-rooted on spot after killshot, 0.1-0.2 sec doing victorydance

this is not just the usual vn-board whining, it is documented by the scout TL by tests. go find the posts if u're interested.
 
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K0nah

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my 45 scout is staying just that unless someone kindly pl's the bitch to 50... still Camo means i can creep around in Hadrians/Sauvage/Emain PK solo if i wish (48stealth now) and Truesight is always good for a laugh ;)
 
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Aussie-

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miss and fumble are totally gay,
i have never seen a caster fumble,
i have never seen a caster miss
casters can do crits on bolts


hmm stupid game T_T
 
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old.Rahvinn

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Didnt stop you putting a nasty 840 dam arrow into my head yesterday outside Crauch Aussie :D


PS. Where did you get that really, REALLY cool bow?
 
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Novamir

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dragon drop.


aussie, bolts are just as unreliable if not more so due to the damn combat message. and i'd like to see you getting an arrow resisted =)
 
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old.Odysseus

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aussie, bolts are just as unreliable if not more so due to the damn combat message. and i'd like to see you getting an arrow resisted =)
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Its called Bladeturn and always resists arrows.
Can also be found in the larger version Pulsing Bladeturn.
If you are really having a bad day it can be found in the not-so-rare variation Stacked Pulsing Bladeturn in which case you might as well break your bow and go home.
 
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Eleasias

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yeah its getting ridiculous now :/ lvl 46-49 caster (yellow but no epic) ... 5 misses, 1 fumble, 1 hit ... GG. scouts/rangers can do nice damage if they hit but nowadays you can expect to miss half the shots :p
 
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Eleasias

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Originally posted by Novamir
and i'd like to see you getting an arrow resisted =)
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lol nova had a cup of retard-tea today? :D
 
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bishibosh

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Pbt makes casters have the most health of any class in the game, potentially unlimited. ( i like the way this is turning into a nerf caster thread :D )
 
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Deskiziado

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Archers have very high range with their bows.
Casters can miss bolts and there is 20 sec. timer to recast it.
Bolts can be blocked.
Nukes are resisted many times.
With conc. buffs. nukes sucks.
Are there conc. buff for thrust/crush/slash?

And mages can't stealth in your eyes, but the stealthers can do it.

Please, stop crying about poor archers. I change your stealth for my PBT. (oops, PBT gone when you are mezzed btw)
 
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Novamir

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Aussie said he'd like to see a caster miss or fumble. i said i'd like to see him get a "resisted" message - duh.

and "casters can do crits on bolts"- this is a non-complaint since the crits on bolts are offset by the 'missed due to in combat' message which occurs so frequently it's absurd.

in FG combat, an archer like eleasias has almost as high damage as a tank in melee, and superb ranged damage to compare with melee classes. they can also stealth and use camoflague for scouting! nerf!!12
 
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Qte Eth

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Pbt makes casters have the most health of any class in the game
what would u say about moose -ip-fa hero with pbt?^^
and about arrows suck-if u dont kill caster in 1 shot from 2xxx range its doesnt means archers suck^^
 
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censi

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In FG contests 90% of your opponents have a PBT. (99% if they are middies)

Odyseus hit nail on the head....

They really need to look at Archer classes they are totally fecked...
And still one of the weakest classes.... Rangers mellee ability is feeble and should only ever be used as last defense or in zergging..... The bow is the only way you are gonna kill anything and with PBT you litterally need your target to stand there and dance the tando for 20 seconds while u chisel away at him....

U cant use stealth if your grping... u cant use it if your alone (SH)((camo lol))

The new bows are gr8... the new arrows are gr8.... but so many times u find yourself shooting but doing no damage...

You dont have to put up with this shit as a nuker, sure your weak... but at least you know if you get a chance to unload your target wont be standing for to long....

maybe one day they will do something about it....
 
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AbPoon

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99% of middie groups have pbt? wrong, alot of rm's have come away from the 47/26 spec and gone for mixes of dark rc and supp (so alot only have castable) for the cold debuffs etc etc dunno not gonna go into it i aint an rm :)

Most groups have 10 sec pbt as best, 6sec is not v commen i think us and the albs are about the same for pbt.

Hibbys are a diff matter, nearly always 6 sec bubbles screwing up your dmg :)
 
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thorwyntf

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Nerf everything until Pallies become good again!

Then nerf Pallies!



Thorwyn
GM
<Blade&Quill>
50 Pally
35 Scout
20 Wizard
 
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old.Odysseus

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( i like the way this is turning into a nerf caster thread )
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Theurgs are UNNERFABLE!!!

patch notes 1.55a:
"We nerfed EB"

awwww shite...

ah well, I dont think, I nuke stuff.

Archers are FUBAR. mention one SINGLE thing that an archer can do better than anyone else?
scout?
damagedealing?
defend casters?
melee?
run away?
groupenhancement (lol)?
battlewinning RA?

nop, archers are the jack-of-no-trades, I just feel sorry for the hunters (if any are left), they REALLY got stuffed.

well I guess you gotta be satisfied with a role as caster-interrupter.
 
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Sibanac

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Originally posted by old.Odysseus
Oh dont you worry, more nerfs are coming in the next few patches (not documented in patch notes ofc):

-increased drawtime
-increased misses
-increased fumbles
-rooted on spot after killshot, 0.1-0.2 sec doing victorydance

this is not just the usual vn-board whining, it is documented by the scout TL by tests. go find the posts if u're interested.
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From the 1.55 patch notes :

- Fixes a problem where archers would play one frame of a combat swing animation after killing an opponent with a bow. This was a client animation problem only - it didn't actually affect bow shot times, and it appeared randomly.


So that is one down
 
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