Advice Haswell chips

[Jupitus]

Guys - my lad is getting together all the components for \ new build which he will do himself (I see it as a bit of a rite of passage at age 16 )... He is going intel but seems stuck on the i5370k as his choice because the 'better' i5s are Haswell design. Being a bit out of the latest tech, can someone offer some advice or reasoning around whether this is sound logic or not please?

His budget is really about 200 quid for the CPU but nice Dad might add a little in if it is worth it in the longer term.....

Thanks!

 

[ECA]

i7 does not offer a gaming performance edge over i5, it's for video editing/rendering only pretty much.

the i5 4760 ( k version for overclocking ) is by far the best gaming cpu atm.

 

[TdC]

or see the other PC build thread and consider an AMD. it could be worth your while. tbh them there 4+ GHz chips scare the hell out of me really o_0

 

[Jupitus]

It'll be intel, even though I know on occasion AMD can outstrip them... call me a fanboi if you so wish I did Once have an AMD processor myself years ago and it was a little rocket, but given I have much more experience of intel-based systems for my lad's build I would rather he stayed on the intel path... is anything actually wrong with Haswell CPUs?

 

[Litmus]

No theres nothing wrong with them, they are the newest gen in the intel series. Just ever so slightly fast than the last gen(ivybridge). But other than that, and they are socket 1150 there's not alot of difference between 3570 and 4670 really. I'd go 4670 though obviously as its newer and hardly any more expensive and will hold its value better.

 

[Athan]

My own small research in this area points to Haswell performing no better and actually using more power (and thus generating more heat) under load, although it's better at idle. The only real gain is that the motherboards might possibly be more featureful, depending on what you get. It'll be something like more SATA3/6Gb/s ports, more USB 3.0 ports, possibly better SLI/crossfire possibilities. But if you have no need for such then getting an i5-3570k based system will perform the same, or slightly better, and cost less.

 

[old.Osy]

My own small research in this area points to Haswell performing no better and actually using more power (and thus generating more heat) under load, although it's better at idle. The only real gain is that the motherboards might possibly be more featureful, depending on what you get. It'll be something like more SATA3/6Gb/s ports, more USB 3.0 ports, possibly better SLI/crossfire possibilities. But if you have no need for such then getting an i5-3570k based system will perform the same, or slightly better, and cost less.

What he said.

 

[Kryten]

I'm on a 3570k and it's cracking. I think it says it all when it's more expensive now then when I bought it a few weeks after release. I will echo Athan's sentiments on the haswell chips, they do get warmer. However, if there's no discrete graphics involved (separate graphics card) then certainly go for the haswell, the extra graphical grunt is worth it. With a graphics card though, save hassle and get an Ivy bridge. I'm questioning my own choice to spent another tenner on the "K" variant though as I've never felt inclined to overclock it!