Has PvE Classes gone to far ?

[knighthood]

Im mainly talking about Necros/Cabby and Animist here... i wonder if it was Mythics intention to design classes that can later in thier career be able to farm and kill lvl 70+ mobs. Now im not complaining at people who do it, u have been given the tools so by all means use them , i myself own a spirit cabby with Juggernuaght 2 atm. But still , When u consider some mobs need u to take a FG or some very high RR/Equipped Tanks in order to kill them off, tanks that are supposed to be the big old shield/take the dmg classes of the realms can be done by a caster class solo. IE: Animist shroom spam, Servant Necro with Bot ect.. it really has gone slightly over the top imo. This also leads down to camping certain Artis ect due to the fact when some find certain artis up, they dont need to ask for help, therfor getting others credit <some will anyway but still> they can just sit thier fop up, send in the pets and splat. Heh , Seems Tanks are starting to lose out in PvE aswell as RvR these days to pets :O

Opin-onions plz

 

[Roadie]

It takes initative to think up ways to do these encounters with few people in the 1st place every1 else just copys.

Nothing wrong with things being able to be done with few people imo. If you need an encounter that can be focused or whatever whoevers doing it will probably let you in

Not all tanks are losing out either, need hevy tanks 2 guard and light tanks for some stabity. Also a tank group can do alot better than a healer + focuser.

 

[gervaise]

Incoming, Catacombs new characters .......
and no they haven't been nerfed yet.

 

[eggy]

Personally I'm glad we have those sorts of chars. Makes artifacts readily available on the market, and actually decreases their prices.

Plus after you've done encounters 10 times you really can't be arsed with the roleplay aspect, and would prefer it was done at speed.

 

[Tesla Monkor]

Personally I'm glad we have those sorts of chars. Makes artifacts readily available on the market, and actually decreases their prices.

Plus after you've done encounters 10 times you really can't be arsed with the roleplay aspect, and would prefer it was done at speed.

Except when you're in Midgard.

 

[Helme]

Except when you're in Midgard.

Except when your in midgard, you focuspull with a spiritmaster

 

[Jardar]

Except when you're in Midgard.

You dont know much about Catacombs then.
A Warlock with buffbot and 50hex farms faster and better than a Necro

So dont worry, you'll have plenty of time whining about Warlock's camping the best farm spots in the future

Welcome to Albion(Necro) / Hibernia(Animist) mode!

 

[old.Whoodoo]

You dont know much about Catacombs then.
A Warlock with buffbot and 50hex farms faster and better than a Necro

So dont worry, you'll have plenty of time whining about Warlock's camping the best farm spots in the future

Welcome to Albion(Necro) / Hibernia(Animist) mode!

Weve only waited 2 years for it, perhaps the economy in Midgard will improve then eh?

 

[Awarkle]

the only reason some classes are better at farming than other classes is because people copy each other.

Bards with decent equipment can chain pull yellows with little or no downtime, but people wont consider them as a farming class because they are bards

I wouldnt say my animist is a farmer yes i do a lot of pve on him (10bubs of exp) but he still pulls his weight in rvr.

But as for midgard and their we cant do artifacts without pet spam crying. Decent tank group can kill anything font of power and font of healing is all you really need to ensure your not dead. And as midgard seems to be fine with the amount of artifacts they have flooded onto their cms and still insist on a 20plat price tag i just think they are all greedy

 

[Ctuchik]

And as midgard seems to be fine with the amount of artifacts they have flooded onto their cms and still insist on a 20plat price tag i just think they are all greedy

yep, in midgard ppl dont think "damn theres alot of <name currently FOTM artifact> lets lower the price so i can sell mine a tad cheaper insted of having that other dude sell for insane ammounts...!

no, they think "damn that dude sold that arti for 15 plat...... wonder if i can sell the same for 25......."

and then some other tard sees that pricetag and thinks... "wow.. im gonna try to sell mine for 40!!!!"...

 

[Ilum]

In my opinion, the problem isn't the necro being able to solo Cloudsong, Jacina's Sash, Guard of Valour etc...the problem is the other classes totally underperforming in PvE.

That's how the design is tho. Mythic could have thought of better way to design encounters that let people contribute equally, or atleast close, regardless of class.

 

[[SS]Gamblor]

Mythic could have thought of better way to design encounters that let people contribute equally, or atleast close, regardless of class.

the only way to do that is to make each Encounter insainly Hard and that it requires 3 fgrps to do it.


if they made iti so that everyone could solo it would prob make it alot easier, and really knock the arse out of the whole insaine pricing systems.


necro's farming , well they can only do that, they s00k in rvR, animists have thier usues and well Warlocks .. at least with a Warlock becoming Fotm it means that a Friar will be FOTM as well :eek2:

 

[knighthood]

your missing my point though , these classes shuldnt be able to kill mobs that r that high surely. I mean master lvls for instance.. 1.10 and 2.10 , these r battlegroup encounters ffs, but u can kill cetus or runi with a necro and bot. In fact runi is farmed a lot. Im not saying they dont have thier uses, im just saying its stupid that certain classes can solo mobs that high by themselves. Also Juggernaught shuld really have itself lowered to 30 secs not 1 minute imo

 

[knighthood]

Personally I'm glad we have those sorts of chars. Makes artifacts readily available on the market, and actually decreases their prices.

Plus after you've done encounters 10 times you really can't be arsed with the roleplay aspect, and would prefer it was done at speed.

Hmm i thought i was on your ignore list

 

[Danamyr]

I am honestly not ranting here, but reading some of the posts is making me uncomfortable. Obviously, I play a Necromancer, and I get the feeling some of you aren't happy they can kill artifact mobs? You have to remember that the ability to do this relies on a very specific spec (Sight is more prevelant AFAIK), a capped stat SC suit with ToA bonuses and a Lvl 50 BB, again with ToA bonuses and ML5.

Necromancers have a terrible time in RVR. All they really excel at is PVE and now those of you complaining want that nerfed too?

FFS TBH

 

[[SS]Gamblor]

Hey i have a lvl 50 Necro myself and he is used for farming ( Cash usualy) or helping guildies get a lvl or 2 . i'm not complaining about them at all. or a Animist ( i have one of those 2 , but he's only lvl 39).


In all honesty being able to take a lvl 60+ mob should take 4 + peeps, however to use the auld Mytic Line

Working as Intended

 

[Danya]

What's the big deal with animists? Most solo farming is chanters or mentalists because their pets tank better. You only want animists if you have 2-3 of them to set up a decent shroom field.

 

[Helme]

Working as Intended

Actually that aint a mythic line, its the VN kiddies that invented it

 

[vintervargen]

1. fix the pet-buffs-absorb issue

2. fix so that only controlled pets give tohit bonus.

2 easy steps to 'nerf' epic monster farming. but as mythic done nothing, i guess they are pretty satisfied with the way it is.

 

[Flimgoblin]

maybe not "satisfied" but possibly "no easy one stop solution that doesn't piss half the playerbase off"

 

[Oboy]

your missing my point though , these classes shuldnt be able to kill mobs that r that high surely. I mean master lvls for instance.. 1.10 and 2.10 , these r battlegroup encounters ffs, but u can kill cetus or runi with a necro and bot. In fact runi is farmed a lot. Im not saying they dont have thier uses, im just saying its stupid that certain classes can solo mobs that high by themselves. Also Juggernaught shuld really have itself lowered to 30 secs not 1 minute imo

why, juggernaut is mainly for pvp when u dont have ml9 and u wont kil much high level mobs on 1 min, maybe its helping a bit but if u are matter spec cabby wich is gimp in rvr, the mob goes down anyway.

 

[Chimaira]

why, juggernaut is mainly for pvp when u dont have ml9 and u wont kil much high level mobs on 1 min, maybe its helping a bit but if u are matter spec cabby wich is gimp in rvr, the mob goes down anyway.

Actually Matter spec aint gimped in RvR at all

Groborthire @ Pryd was sick ;D

 

[Elitestoner]

1. fix the pet-buffs-absorb issue

2. fix so that only controlled pets give tohit bonus.

2 easy steps to 'nerf' epic monster farming. but as mythic done nothing, i guess they are pretty satisfied with the way it is.

yes lets make artifacts harder! they are way too easy!

 

[Morchaoron]

Actually that aint a mythic line, its the VN kiddies that invented it

actually mythic used that sentence once, but when the VN kiddies copied it they changed it to 'Design decision'

 

[Ilum]

the only way to do that is to make each Encounter insainly Hard and that it requires 3 fgrps to do it.


if they made iti so that everyone could solo it would prob make it alot easier, and really knock the arse out of the whole insaine pricing systems.


necro's farming , well they can only do that, they s00k in rvR, animists have thier usues and well Warlocks .. at least with a Warlock becoming Fotm it means that a Friar will be FOTM as well :eek2:

No, that's not the only way. You just have to learn to think outside that little box. Something in Ml2 chess style / malice way, only more accomplished...

 

[CorNokZ]

yep, in midgard ppl dont think "damn theres alot of <name currently FOTM artifact> lets lower the price so i can sell mine a tad cheaper insted of having that other dude sell for insane ammounts...!

no, they think "damn that dude sold that arti for 15 plat...... wonder if i can sell the same for 25......."

and then some other tard sees that pricetag and thinks... "wow.. im gonna try to sell mine for 40!!!!"...

Now we know why we have no mids in rvr... They r out farming to get leet!

 

[Roadie]

the only way to do that is to make each Encounter insainly Hard and that it requires 3 fgrps to do it.

Or they might not work on the "if i want more class involved then i will make ze mob higher level/give it loads of adds!!!" prospect :z

 

[Acercerak]

You dont know much about Catacombs then.
A Warlock with buffbot and 50hex farms faster and better than a Necro

So dont worry, you'll have plenty of time whining about Warlock's camping the best farm spots in the future

Welcome to Albion(Necro) / Hibernia(Animist) mode!

Not to mention that Warlocks have been known to one-shot people in RVR