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old.willowywicca
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no, I meant as in it's a crap ability
LW stun far nicer
no, I meant as in it's a crap ability
LW stun far nicer
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old.Bubble
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most SB's avoid clerics tbh(and they should...)
clerics soming in RvR normaly get killed by a Zerg not a Sb
clerics soming in RvR normaly get killed by a Zerg not a Sb
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Krillin.
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Like Hadess i am one of the last remaining Smite Clerics left using the traditonal template of smite 48 / rejuv 23 and enhance 9.
I can understand and in some ways agree with the smite nerf as our damage is strong. Generally yellow con hib casters go in 2 smites and same for middie casters. Anything else varies from 3 - 4 smites maybe 5 if they have high resists.
I don't agree with mez nerf simply because alb now has very little CC. I think theirs less than 10 level 50 sorcerers active and thats being generous. Minstrels seem rare at the moment and clerics are also a dieing breed. Albion as such is becoming very gimped and the current and popular trend of infiltrators is boring and also damaging to albion. So much so i deleted mine because it wasn't fun anymore. Mythic have moved the game too much around stealth. Most of the respected and well known characters are always stealthers and this is what appeals to players so this causes a mass creation of stealthers.
I do not know if i will continue playing my cleric after the patch. I admit i originally played my cleric because it was so versatile and being a damage dealer and healer appealed. Mythic have now changed it so that my character is not the one i originally spent all my time creating.
In the end though if Mythic continues nerfing Albion's CC as much as they are they will spoil it for the other realms in terms of fun. No clerics / minstrels and sorcerers means less fun in terms of RvR for everyone and i'm not being melodramatic.
I hope people read my posts and think a little. I'm trying to be open minded and fair as well but i await the flames and nerf albion messages, just i for one wouldn't take much pleasure in killing a realm with little CC, speed or healing capabilities...
I can understand and in some ways agree with the smite nerf as our damage is strong. Generally yellow con hib casters go in 2 smites and same for middie casters. Anything else varies from 3 - 4 smites maybe 5 if they have high resists.
I don't agree with mez nerf simply because alb now has very little CC. I think theirs less than 10 level 50 sorcerers active and thats being generous. Minstrels seem rare at the moment and clerics are also a dieing breed. Albion as such is becoming very gimped and the current and popular trend of infiltrators is boring and also damaging to albion. So much so i deleted mine because it wasn't fun anymore. Mythic have moved the game too much around stealth. Most of the respected and well known characters are always stealthers and this is what appeals to players so this causes a mass creation of stealthers.
I do not know if i will continue playing my cleric after the patch. I admit i originally played my cleric because it was so versatile and being a damage dealer and healer appealed. Mythic have now changed it so that my character is not the one i originally spent all my time creating.
In the end though if Mythic continues nerfing Albion's CC as much as they are they will spoil it for the other realms in terms of fun. No clerics / minstrels and sorcerers means less fun in terms of RvR for everyone and i'm not being melodramatic.
I hope people read my posts and think a little. I'm trying to be open minded and fair as well but i await the flames and nerf albion messages, just i for one wouldn't take much pleasure in killing a realm with little CC, speed or healing capabilities...
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Krillin: Dont say smite is better then it really is.. Nothing to gain from that. Smite is 3 smites to kill a casters. 2 on casters without epic armor. On a tank i need like 10 smites if he uses Ignore Pain.
Pre epic armors tanks died in 3 smites. Now 10. After smite nerf maybe 15 smites. <-- Have anyone seen such nerf?
Pre epic armors tanks died in 3 smites. Now 10. After smite nerf maybe 15 smites. <-- Have anyone seen such nerf?
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Krillin.
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I said generally and i said yellow con not 50 with epic armour. I was not specific and i am not making us out to be stronger than we are. In barrows we nuke advisors for 800 damage. Yes we get undead bonus of 150 but we still hit them for 650. I don't know of one other class in albion that hits that hard. We are powerful at the moment and maybe not that much more than other classes but the problem as such is they nerfed us on other aspects and we're all trying to grab back what we can because the other nerfs hurt us more.
I also find it funny that you think i am trying to make us out to be harder than we are. I don't think that in a 1 vs 1 i have ever lost - generally in solo situations a cleric will never lose which for a support class is not in line with our role. We have instas / buffs / chain / hammer (although no weap spec) / dmg buff / smite / mez / stun / dmg shout / and with realm abilities bof and mcl which makes us quite formidable.
If they fix our buff line so we don't hit caps and that we can stack then i'll be happier. Also times for casting rezzes take too long and heals as well.
I have played nearly every other class in albion and i am yet to find a character that can do everything like a cleric can. We have no real weaknesses apart from no weapon spec and our casting times and maybe range.
Also in regards to your has anyone else seen such a nerf? Nearly all classes have been nerfed.
Sorcerers get big nerfage soon, minstrels and scouts got see hidden which can't be fun, paladins have issues in terms of strength caps, theurgists get the joy of being a mobile pbt unit, tanks get limited in that their are a close range attack unit and generally its mezzed, nuke, nuke, nuke, dead for them. We are lucky that we have had so much fun playing the smite cleric. I always knew it would be a case of when and not if mythic would nerf us.
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old.Bubble
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yes
sorcerers/champion con debuffs used to make a lvl 40 character have less than 200 hps
sorcerers/champion con debuffs used to make a lvl 40 character have less than 200 hps
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Hadess
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Krillin: The thing is that we have already been nerfed. 3 smites before and 10 now. I haven't seen you around in emain so much lately but when you say you win almost every 1on1 I really wonder how you play. A tank with IP and Purge takes minutes of runing around to be able to mez again. I know it can be done because I do it all the time. But by saying we win all the time is not true.
Our strenght nowadays do not lie i 1on1's, but in large battles when the enemy dont flee. But with the future mez timer that will be way harder too.
Our strenght nowadays do not lie i 1on1's, but in large battles when the enemy dont flee. But with the future mez timer that will be way harder too.
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Krillin.
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Hadess: I see your arguments and your RvR total speaks for itself and shows you are one of the best smite clerics around today. I am speaking from my experience and what i have encountered. I will not continue with this discussion as i respect you and your opinion so i will say we shall agree to disagree. Good luck on the hunting grounds and may you fly the smite cleric flags so high like you have done since you started. Your RP total is what makes me feel proud to be a smite cleric
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I think that this very nice post by the cleric team leader on the vnboards, clearly lays out some very sensible suggestions on the future of the cleric class in general after 1.52
I would recomend all clerics read it, and hope that Mythic pay attention
http://vnboards.ign.com/message.asp?topic=35053479&replies=0
I would recomend all clerics read it, and hope that Mythic pay attention
http://vnboards.ign.com/message.asp?topic=35053479&replies=0
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~Mobius~
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I wasnt moaning, my post was clearly in good humour.
and i know im stupid and i should've but my screen is right next to the door and a huge mirror so i barely see anything!
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old.Torfa
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Shit nuke for 800.. i cap at 658 as a dark runie
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old.mattshanes
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I am not surprised a runie hitting for that much
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Hadess
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Krillin: Thanks for those kind words
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LoL, nuke for 800? A screenshot would be nice, since clerics can't crit with their spells, and thusly are limited to the standard cap of 3x base damage (excluding RAs). Base damage being 225, this means that your cap will be 675, unless you have MoM, which will raise it by 3% per level. Now, what did you hit for 800 again? 
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germ_uw
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dont worry nxt patch they will become buff bots!
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robillard
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dont clerics get something like a 150 damage bonus against undead Blaen?
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Hadess
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Bonus to undead isnt very useful in RvR though
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We get a % bonus to all undead/spirit mobs; this goes towards our variance however, and in itself has nothing to do with our cap.
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robillard
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thanks for clearing that one up
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Krillin.
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Originally posted by - Pathfinder -
LoL, nuke for 800? A screenshot would be nice, since clerics can't crit with their spells, and thusly are limited to the standard cap of 3x base damage (excluding RAs). Base damage being 225, this means that your cap will be 675, unless you have MoM, which will raise it by 3% per level. Now, what did you hit for 800 again?
i just talk crap ingore me
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Originally posted by old.mattshanes
I am not surprised a runie hitting for that much
You do know what a *CAP* is right Matt? I can explain it to you if you want.
It's not like Runies hit that regularly (if ever) against evencon enemy in RvR.