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old.Lonewolf
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Indeed lessons learned here today I feel cheers mate
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old.Oedo
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Now you have turned this into 'whos the better guild'. I didn't come on here to argue that.
Maybe GoL do take out a huge army to RvR? but then again North & South prefer to know whos in the guild and get to know the ppl. we dont go around accepting every person on the server.
My point overall is that the GoL leader couldn't be adult enough to sort out his pathetic guildmate and tell him what he did was wrong, instead i got 'its your problem m8'. Thats what has pissed me off here...
GoL for you go ahead leading your huge guild out to rvr have fun and keep up the abuse, as for us we'll get on with being a polite friendly guild.
Maybe GoL do take out a huge army to RvR? but then again North & South prefer to know whos in the guild and get to know the ppl. we dont go around accepting every person on the server.
My point overall is that the GoL leader couldn't be adult enough to sort out his pathetic guildmate and tell him what he did was wrong, instead i got 'its your problem m8'. Thats what has pissed me off here...
GoL for you go ahead leading your huge guild out to rvr have fun and keep up the abuse, as for us we'll get on with being a polite friendly guild.
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Please note in other posts i tried to be reasonable 
1st of all i was offering advice no need at all to get agressive yes i read your post lonewolf, and a comment like that wether it was or wasnt meant to be funny is highly offensive.
2nd ivespoken to sendoh and he explained teh whole situtation members of YOUR guild where leeching of him, some didnt agree with what the group was doing and even appologised to him. So mebe before you come on here slandering a guilds name, you should sort out your own guild. Now ive been playing with sendoh since the begging of beta as i have with many people in GoL and alot of ther guilds and i know sendoh wouldnt lie about this
3rd bullying your guild member? well if the guild member in question had teh respect for other players ienot leechingmebe hed get some back.
No one from GoL turned this into a whoes the better guild from previous posts u insulted our guild, we didnt flame we calmly and politely pointed outyou where wrong. I havent seen a single f-word used by our guild in this thread only by north and south members and there guild leader so much for maturity. Rhenic replied its your problem because it is your problem you let leechers in your guild, so harshfact that it is before you comment on other guild members action or the way other guilds are run u should sort out the bad problems and bad attitude of your guild.
Another point for oedo who started the abusenot us as i pointed i was offering advice and it was honestly meant as that it was you and your guild taht decided they where above any advice and started flaming us using bad language etc. Polite and friendly guild rofl lmao from the language even your guild leader uses i can see that your guild is anything but polite and freindly.
So what if we are a big guild? does that matter? more importantly should it matter?
Sure we have a lot of members but we all know each other we often rvr together and group with each othertrips todar6tmoor etc........ Personally speaking i know mostof the guild and there a good bunch of people who'll stick togther to the last man even when out numbered.. what ever
Its sad to say but i dont see the point of comming on here offering my advice and opppinions when all i get is flames towards my guild and myself, all i wanted was for sendoh to have a say here before you publicaly flamed him.
and as previously stated we dont invite everyone many of the people in guild ive know since the early days of betaive played with them for a long time.
This really annoys me we get flamed because where a big guildand can do thing idependantly from smaller guilds ffs stop whining form an alliance and stop having such a childish view of oooooooh there bigger than us they must reckon there all soooooo l337. It wouldnt matter to any of us what size the guild is where just there to have fun and enjoy ourselfs so what if we have a large community of friends who cares?
Now the mature thing for you to do is let this rest, but thats hoping for to muchso falme all u like youll just lose more and more of the rest of albions respect.
@ congo ty m8 n gratson 50
1st of all i was offering advice no need at all to get agressive yes i read your post lonewolf, and a comment like that wether it was or wasnt meant to be funny is highly offensive.
2nd ivespoken to sendoh and he explained teh whole situtation members of YOUR guild where leeching of him, some didnt agree with what the group was doing and even appologised to him. So mebe before you come on here slandering a guilds name, you should sort out your own guild. Now ive been playing with sendoh since the begging of beta as i have with many people in GoL and alot of ther guilds and i know sendoh wouldnt lie about this
3rd bullying your guild member? well if the guild member in question had teh respect for other players ienot leechingmebe hed get some back.
No one from GoL turned this into a whoes the better guild from previous posts u insulted our guild, we didnt flame we calmly and politely pointed outyou where wrong. I havent seen a single f-word used by our guild in this thread only by north and south members and there guild leader so much for maturity. Rhenic replied its your problem because it is your problem you let leechers in your guild, so harshfact that it is before you comment on other guild members action or the way other guilds are run u should sort out the bad problems and bad attitude of your guild.
Another point for oedo who started the abusenot us as i pointed i was offering advice and it was honestly meant as that it was you and your guild taht decided they where above any advice and started flaming us using bad language etc. Polite and friendly guild rofl lmao from the language even your guild leader uses i can see that your guild is anything but polite and freindly.
So what if we are a big guild? does that matter? more importantly should it matter?
Sure we have a lot of members but we all know each other we often rvr together and group with each othertrips todar6tmoor etc........ Personally speaking i know mostof the guild and there a good bunch of people who'll stick togther to the last man even when out numbered.. what ever
Its sad to say but i dont see the point of comming on here offering my advice and opppinions when all i get is flames towards my guild and myself, all i wanted was for sendoh to have a say here before you publicaly flamed him.
and as previously stated we dont invite everyone many of the people in guild ive know since the early days of betaive played with them for a long time.
This really annoys me we get flamed because where a big guildand can do thing idependantly from smaller guilds ffs stop whining form an alliance and stop having such a childish view of oooooooh there bigger than us they must reckon there all soooooo l337. It wouldnt matter to any of us what size the guild is where just there to have fun and enjoy ourselfs so what if we have a large community of friends who cares?
Now the mature thing for you to do is let this rest, but thats hoping for to muchso falme all u like youll just lose more and more of the rest of albions respect.
@ congo ty m8
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old.Oedo
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rofl thats the funniest thing ive ever heard, members of OUR guild were leeching?
I'm afraid im the only lvl 15 in our guild, the rest are 20 - 40+ and im afraid i wasnt grouped with them people and they certainly arent in North & South. Talk about getting facts right!
Also why is it my problem if a lvl 46 comes along and wipes out a whole nymph spawn for 10 mins?
I'd think it was his problem for being such a kid, i really could report him for behaviour like that.
"so what if we have a large community of friends who cares?"
I really doubt that mate, being as most of u have tried to turn this around and make our N&S were the cause of this incident, at the end of the day one of GoL leeched a spot for 10 mins, he was 30 odd levels above the mobs therefore getting no exp, and the leader laughed, shrugged it off, and said its my problem.
I'm afraid im the only lvl 15 in our guild, the rest are 20 - 40+ and im afraid i wasnt grouped with them people and they certainly arent in North & South. Talk about getting facts right!
Also why is it my problem if a lvl 46 comes along and wipes out a whole nymph spawn for 10 mins?
I'd think it was his problem for being such a kid, i really could report him for behaviour like that.
"so what if we have a large community of friends who cares?"
I really doubt that mate, being as most of u have tried to turn this around and make our N&S were the cause of this incident, at the end of the day one of GoL leeched a spot for 10 mins, he was 30 odd levels above the mobs therefore getting no exp, and the leader laughed, shrugged it off, and said its my problem.
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old.Lonewolf
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Herbal u really are a sad case aren't u I stated the debate was over yet u still persist on dragging out this torrid affair
And u are really beginning to grate on my nerves as well, u have turned this silly little incident of one of your guild destroying the nymphs into a full blown defence of your entire guild and how North and South are simply terrible
There is only like 5-9 of us in the guild mostly 35+ only small section which are lower because they are alt's
Now pls just let it lie it is obvious the matter cannot be resolved here because u are obviously argumentative
I am playing here with Maska from GoL and he is a wicked bloke, so how on earth u think I hate all of GoL bemuses me
And if your gonna personally attack me again, then pls do it elsewhere and not on the forums
North and South have never had any problems with any guilds and we have all been here since the beta so delude yourself into thinking that gives u some kind of superiority over anyone
The subject is closed and we will learn to ignore ur actions in future
And u are really beginning to grate on my nerves as well, u have turned this silly little incident of one of your guild destroying the nymphs into a full blown defence of your entire guild and how North and South are simply terrible
There is only like 5-9 of us in the guild mostly 35+ only small section which are lower because they are alt's
Now pls just let it lie it is obvious the matter cannot be resolved here because u are obviously argumentative
I am playing here with Maska from GoL and he is a wicked bloke, so how on earth u think I hate all of GoL bemuses me
And if your gonna personally attack me again, then pls do it elsewhere and not on the forums
North and South have never had any problems with any guilds and we have all been here since the beta so delude yourself into thinking that gives u some kind of superiority over anyone
The subject is closed and we will learn to ignore ur actions in future
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Herbal isnt going to reply to any more arguementative postsabout such a silly thing. its not a big problem play teh game enjoy it thats whats its about. ive tried to be reasonable u turned it into a flamewar which i have the maturity to avooid so if ud like to leave a message hebal will read it but not reply after the beep
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old.Oedo
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fair doos, but i really cawnt see where i have turned it into a flame war, i simply wanted answers and i sure got em.
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hiya!
watched that thread quite a while now and sry but im kinda amused.
only 5 thingies to say:
1. i used to play with sendoh since early beta days and experienced him as a quite and loyal mate, very hard to anger.
ergo someone must have made him really mad there.
2. sry oedo but my answer wouldnt have been that nice like "its ur problem m8" if u had used several f*** words in ur tell and told me to f*** off. respect to rhenic here
3. report leechin? great idea - where do i sign up? but i guess whole mithra would be empty by then
4. @ dannyn - frankly back in beta i lost all respect for some members of a guild who used to log off after failed attempts instead of tryin again, be it RvR or raids.....uke:
but this is kinda wrong placed here, no?
5. those and equal threads r the reason why i use to rarely visit a forum and just enjoy the game
nuff said
good nite and enjoy
watched that thread quite a while now and sry but im kinda amused.
only 5 thingies to say:
1. i used to play with sendoh since early beta days and experienced him as a quite and loyal mate, very hard to anger.
ergo someone must have made him really mad there.
2. sry oedo but my answer wouldnt have been that nice like "its ur problem m8" if u had used several f*** words in ur tell and told me to f*** off. respect to rhenic here
3. report leechin? great idea - where do i sign up? but i guess whole mithra would be empty by then
4. @ dannyn - frankly back in beta i lost all respect for some members of a guild who used to log off after failed attempts instead of tryin again, be it RvR or raids.....
uke: but this is kinda wrong placed here, no?
5. those and equal threads r the reason why i use to rarely visit a forum and just enjoy the game
nuff said
good nite and enjoy
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I'm not gonna get into this particular things - but someone raised an interesting point
'This is about Sendoh not about his Guild, why should GoL be taking the flak when it's Sendoh'
That's not an exact quote - I'm too lazy to find one but I hope you'll agree it captures the spirit.
Basically, 'A guild should not be responsible for its members actions.'
I disagree with this entirely - surely the ENTIRE POINT of a guild is it sticks together - if one member does wrong then the whole guild suffers.
Look at the terrible reputation Orden Hispanica has: they have some cool people in their guild but they have the most awful reputation due to a small number of members.
If anyone in my guild were leeching/acting like a moron I'd investigate it to the full - I'd not just try to wash my hands of it and say 'well its not the guild that did it - it's just X acting on his own'.
I'd check it out, talk to the person involved, find out what happened from observers and warn them (or kick them or whatever).
Even if you try to - if someone with your guild name under theirs does something bad it'll hurt your guild's image.
As to why nothing positive is ever mentioned - that's just life - do you see people posting about when they've been unstuck through RightNow quickly?
No! they've just gone back and played the game ...
I'll reiterate (for anyone reading this far) that I'm not saying that Sendoh or GoL were wrong or right here - that's upto the players involved. I just think anyone saying that guilds are not responsible is being foolish.
'This is about Sendoh not about his Guild, why should GoL be taking the flak when it's Sendoh'
That's not an exact quote - I'm too lazy to find one but I hope you'll agree it captures the spirit.
Basically, 'A guild should not be responsible for its members actions.'
I disagree with this entirely - surely the ENTIRE POINT of a guild is it sticks together - if one member does wrong then the whole guild suffers.
Look at the terrible reputation Orden Hispanica has: they have some cool people in their guild but they have the most awful reputation due to a small number of members.
If anyone in my guild were leeching/acting like a moron I'd investigate it to the full - I'd not just try to wash my hands of it and say 'well its not the guild that did it - it's just X acting on his own'.
I'd check it out, talk to the person involved, find out what happened from observers and warn them (or kick them or whatever).
Even if you try to - if someone with your guild name under theirs does something bad it'll hurt your guild's image.
As to why nothing positive is ever mentioned - that's just life - do you see people posting about when they've been unstuck through RightNow quickly?
No! they've just gone back and played the game ...
I'll reiterate (for anyone reading this far) that I'm not saying that Sendoh or GoL were wrong or right here - that's upto the players involved. I just think anyone saying that guilds are not responsible is being foolish.
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Saying you played with him in the beta and that hes sound isnt gonna change what he did, he admitted to it, you all know he did it, yet you still disagree that it was wrong. I don't hate guilds because of what people say, but after the way i was replied to by the GoL 2nd in command i kinda thought back to all the stories id heard.
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Danya
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Originally posted by Gregorian
hiya!
watched that thread quite a while now and sry but im kinda amused.
4. @ dannyn - frankly back in beta i lost all respect for some members of a guild who used to log off after failed attempts instead of tryin again, be it RvR or raids.....
but this is kinda wrong placed here, no?
I didn't bother with half this thread, guess you have more patience than me greg. As for logging, well we all have to sleep, but the problem of people logging as soon as a raid goes sour is pretty widespread and yes it irks me too (glutton for punishment here
).As for wrong placed, possibly, the nature of forums is that they go off at tangents and I'm worse than most at driving threads off topic. Nice to know the GoL doesn't have the open door policy anymore, that was a really BAD mistake IMO.
I have to say actually I've not had any problems with any of the GoL members I have grouped with lately, maybe I just got unlucky before and ran into the bad apples all at once.
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Goku TheWarrior
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This should be discused in game and imo its not nice to mention names on the forums on topics like this.
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old.BJ|Bored
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Flames are what forums are for tho
oh, ive known oedo for ages, much longer than the beta ran for, and hes a nice bloke so he must be right
(P.S. pls notice the sarcasm)
oh, ive known oedo for ages, much longer than the beta ran for, and hes a nice bloke so he must be right
(P.S. pls notice the sarcasm
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old.ElDiablo
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once i was xping in barrows (echoes room) and this gol guy started to pull things right into our group. when we pulled our enemies, both enemies looked the same and since he stood in the middle of the group one of the members accidently attacked the one he had pulled. he started accusing us for leeching and refused to stop pulling into our group :/
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and the reason for mentioning that in this thread was????
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old.ElDiablo
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because everyone else in this thread mention some of the bad experinces theyve had with gol i though i would just share mine.
btw plz cut down on your sig
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beer anyone?
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Addlcove
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ay I'd have a Newcastle Brown Ale, if it pleases you....
oi and about the sig, wait til the 3rd english server gonna get longer then
oi and about the sig, wait til the 3rd english server gonna get longer then
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Herbal Remedy
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stella if your buyin
bedwin u tart cut down the sig it kills my 56 k
good thing im getting adsl soo
bedwin u tart cut down the sig it kills my 56 k
good thing im getting adsl soo
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GoL is known to have some lame members since beta, a total fact =)
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Danya
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Damnit Bedwin a one-liner from you fills my screen from your damn sig, can't you use a small font or something?
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Originally posted by Herbal remedy
I would hope ud expect your freinds and guild m8s would publicly defend you and your guild, im good friends with sendoh as are many of the guild. Yes when u insult one of our members well defend him
Herbal damn proud to be GoL
Well everybody knows that crapness in Alb/Excaliber reaches parts that crapness can't reach anywhere else, so why is everybody so suprised at the absurd level of crapness there? GoL just seems to have the usual Alb/Excaliber share of it, after all.
Has all the crapness in the known Universe been drawn to Alb/Excaliber for some devious plan of Odin's by any chance? After all, is this maybe why the weird Finster is pleading with Mid/Prydwen players to play Mid/Excaliber? Is the weird Finster becoming desperate to purge Alb/Excaliber of such excessive crapness with the admirable and healthy forces of Midgard, and Odin's help, so they kick the crapness out of Alb/Excaliber for the weird Finster? Still, at least the weird Finster is recognising a crapness free environment when he sees one. Perhaps the poor guy could do with coming to Mid/Prydwen for a sanity break, and a devotion to Odin?
Odin does indeed work in mysterious ways . . .
GoL? Alb? *snorts in disdain*