Guardians of Light Sendoh

[old.Oedo]

Can I ask why it is you feel it's nessecary to kill level 18 enemies. being as you are level 46 and all...

while i was trying to hunt some nymphs with my level 15 character all of a sudden sendoh comes along and decides to smite every spawn for over 10 minutes... are all GoL like this, or is he just a pathetic kid trying to act big?


while it was going on i msged one of GoL's leaders, i got a reply back saying "very simple m8, u leech off sen lvl 18 infil and now sendoh will teach you a lesson"

for 1 i wasnt with the group he was arguing with, but why he should steal exp from me as well as everone else hunting the nymphs is beyond me. I read a post earlier about immature guilds and GoL seem to be one. You've gone down in my books!

 

[Danya]

I had this off sendoh in beta, his alt leeched my alt, then accused me of leeching him when I complained, got his higher level character to come and leech more effectively... Lameness of this scale is incredible.

 

[SFXman]

Originally posted by Oedo
Can I ask why it is you feel it's nessecary to kill level 18 enemies. being as you are level 46 and all...

while i was trying to hunt some nymphs with my level 15 character all of a sudden sendoh comes along and decides to smite every spawn for over 10 minutes... are all GoL like this, or is he just a pathetic kid trying to act big?


while it was going on i msged one of GoL's leaders, i got a reply back saying "very simple m8, u leech off sen lvl 18 infil and now sendoh will teach you a lesson"

for 1 i wasnt with the group he was arguing with, but why he should steal exp from me as well as everone else hunting the nymphs is beyond me. I read a post earlier about immature guilds and GoL seem to be one. You've gone down in my books!

ROFL! They actually sent some high-level to kill nymphs?! What kind of crap is that! This is just funny tbh...

 

[old.Torfa]

sound like gol is trying to get some MAFIA/gang stuff going, very k3wl

 

[Addlcove]

Oedo maybe you should rewind and think about what you where told, if the group that you where in at that point had leeched sendohs alt earliere and obviously done so several times to cause this kind of reaction, do you really wanna be part of that group then? sendoh to my knowledge is very reasonable and I don't think a single leeching incident would cause this, a group however continuing to leech of him may have........

I do not know Sendoh's side of this story nor the group that you was in I am just trying to reason out why he maybe did what he did

I do not approve of his action NOR do I (condem(spelling?)) them.

oh btw

YES I am GoL and proud of it, NO I do NOT SPEAK for GoL

 

[Heish]

Camping someone else's xp spot just to to get back at them is imo very immature and counter productive. Seems like GoL don't frown upon this behaviour since I hear alot of people talking about 'cocky GoL' members. Which is a shame since GoL once was a guild to respect.

 

[Aeiedil]

reminds me of something i saw on parth farm the other day

i was on as my blunt\shield hero on pry, and some bloody level 30 BM comes along and starts clearing the field, and he thinks that i have no right to be asking him to stop it! he then goes on to claim such things as that the big parth is piss-easy and can be done with a bm and a level 22 healer or sommit (love to see him try)

if only it was a pvp server, and if only i had my ns to hand, then there would have been blood spilt some ppl just have no bloody respect

 

[Danya]

Originally posted by Ahmond
Which is a shame since GoL once was a guild to respect.

Frankly I lost all respect for them back in beta. They were full of idiots (like Sendoh for one) back then and from what I have seen still are. There are a few good people in GoL but the majority of them, to put it bluntly, suck.

 

[SFXman]

Oedo maybe you should rewind and think about what you where told, if the group that you where in at that point had leeched sendohs alt earliere and obviously done so several times to cause this kind of reaction, do you really wanna be part of that group then?

Bedwin, even though a group might do such a thing has leeched, which I find very uncommon for a whole group to do, any decent person ESPECIALLY such a high-level would still not go so low as to start doing the same thing... I have had people killsteal some targets of mine in Keltoi, but I have never even thought of doing the same to them as revenge just so that I wouldn't be as pathetic as them who did this more than once... I usually first ask them politely to stop, since it might have been accident especially if I am standing in the middle of their group or they didn't see my aiming my bow. If they don't seem to listen to this I will make sure they hear what I say. Occasionally some still continue and say absolutely nothing.... worst case was when some idiot after 2 polite messages, just said something in the direction of "Bite me" along with many other insults. His name was Glacius if I remember correctly (not sure) whom I heard complaints of from other people later.... although someone the next day sent me a message if I knew Glacius (to which I said yes) and he reported him taking into account my case aswell. I haven't seen him around anymore (on my friends list to notice him around).

 

[Addlcove]

SFXman as I said I do NOT approve of his actions.

but maybe sen had had a lousy day, maybe that was just the one thing necesarry to make him completly mad, who knows?

I get pissed every so often and I usually find something to take it out on (usually some empty coke can that is unrecognizable afterwards) maybe sendoh just took his whole shitty day off on those leechers
^^^^^^
just a guess

another thing is that I'm surprised that you haven't been victim of a leechgroup, I've had like 4 of them bother me or my alts in the past, even where in one once, until they started leeching, told them to stop, they told me to "fuck off, its a free server" can't say I remember the names anylonger though was in start of retail.

 

[SFXman]

Still, bad day or not... I don't approve of it. Nothing justifies such action tbh. Just because someone does something to you, be a decent person and don't do the same thing to them just to prove you wont go as low as them.

 

[old.Prof]

Good to know I can lame as much as I want "because I had a shitty day".

However you look at it this can't be justified and generally are witness of a pretty immature attitude.

Then, immature attitude with a GoL member doesn't really surprise me ... the guild has his fair share of childish pricks (then any big guild that recruits easely has this problem - take OH for example). Doesn't mean that all GoL members are like this thou

 

[SFXman]

Originally posted by Prof
Good to know I can lame as much as I want "because I had a shitty day".

However you look at it this can't be justified and generally are witness of a pretty immature attitude.

I agree that having a bad day does not justify being a total idiot and venturing into such horrible behaviour...
Immature attitude involved in this kind of action, hell yes.

 

[Addlcove]

and I say AGAIN

I DO NOT approve of his actions, people respond different to different situations, I am NOT defending Sendoh I was only trying to reason out the background of his behavior

Prof, GoL does no longer accept any request for membership, we have a mentor/apprentice system for new members.

happy hunting to you all

 

[old.[WH]Largeikus]

Awww this is bad......

Stop killing the mans mobs what did he ever do to you well even if he leeched xp from a former grp its a bad way to show the leecher that you dont like it......you wont gain anything from killing his mobs maybe some xp or something......

Many players think this game is only about the lvls and that suck pookha ass......this game is about fun to, and if some one leeches xp from U say that you dont like it dont turn it into a bloody vendetta.....

uke: leechers

 

[old.Oedo]

I'll say this AGAIN, for 1 i was not in the group that supposedly leeched from sendohs other character. Maybe they did leech, but you have to remember alot of people who are level 15ish are usually pretty new to the game... bringing on another high level character to spite them is just pathetic, why not just olitely tell them what they are doing is wrong?

Oh and Rhen is a great leader and rolemodel to GoL, he only agreed with what Sendoh was doing and told me it was my problem. How old are the guys in GoL?

 

[old.Carnak]

It gets even sadder than that...

when i saw a purple paladin in mithra (was lvl 15 at the time) wearing expensively coloured plate armour (purple). I watched him for a bit as i waited for spawn with my group. Suddenly a doomed sacrifice spawns right infront of us and we start hitting it.
The guy then rushes over to finish the mob off in 1 hit (75% of hp in one hit). I then did /who (that guy) and got something like this:
Blablabla the Level 35 Paladin of your realm.
WTF is that kind of a sad looser doing in mithra wiping out all the spawns?

Another example i was unfortunately a witness of: I was happily killing boulderlings at the prydwen bridge when this armsman wearing no armour came along, and hit EVERY boulderling there was there and killed em all (wearing no armour) and taking practically no damage. He had also stolen the mob i had been hitting and when i confronted him and asked him why he did it he laughed and said: "revenge for all the times they killed me when i was lvl 13".

There are some serious morons out there people. Soon we wont be able to go out at night and hunt skeles with our lvl 5 alts without getting annyoed by lvl 45 players who are just "getting revenge".

 

[old.Keigan]

Re: It gets even sadder than that...

Originally posted by Carnak

Another example i was unfortunately a witness of: I was happily killing boulderlings at the prydwen bridge when this armsman wearing no armour came along, and hit EVERY boulderling there was there and killed em all (wearing no armour) and taking practically no damage. He had also stolen the mob i had been hitting and when i confronted him and asked him why he did it he laughed and said: "revenge for all the times they killed me when i was lvl 13".

ok agree that the mithra incident was really sad... wouldn't have been if he had pulled it himself and just once or twice (mithra is so camped out anyway ) But leeching grey cons hitting grey con monsters is really sad! (leeching in all forms is, just that this is worse )

[EDIT]OMG ignore my stoopid post... missed out the part where it said "He had also stolen the mob i had been hitting.." ah well agree with you in all aspects Carnak [/EDIT]

 

[Herbal Remedy]

Originally posted by Prof
Good to know I can lame as much as I want "because I had a shitty day".

However you look at it this can't be justified and generally are witness of a pretty immature attitude.

Then, immature attitude with a GoL member doesn't really surprise me ... the guild has his fair share of childish pricks (then any big guild that recruits easely has this problem - take OH for example). Doesn't mean that all GoL members are like this thou

1st GoL doesnt just pick anybody to join with have strict rules for entry which include among other things a try out period where new mebers are grouped with old membersto see wether or not they meet our standards
2nd sendoh took his anger out on some whoe was leeching off his alt (meb it was youmeb it wasnt i dont know i wasnt there) but when you get to a higher lvl leeching is nexct to none exsitsant, so i can kinda see why he would be so mad. Leeching is a problem that happens alot at lower lvls as there are a lot more people who dont have a clue (they either dont lvlor learn from there mistakes). Now dont get me wrong im not saying all low lvls are noobs just that theres a whole lot more of em at lower lvls because they tend not to lvl.
3rd please dont bad mouth our whole guild over what one single member did (wether he was right or wrong) as no one man represents our guild you publicly flaming the whole guild is just wrong
I know sendoh to be a very calm, even handed and open minded person so i honestly camt see him doing this for no reason at all.

I dont agree with what sendoh did but as there was other other factors involved that we dont know about i suggest we resverve judgement flaming etc until all the facts are known. Becuase im sure that sendohwouldnt do this normally, ive never heard of anything like it before. If you have a problem with him talk to him or gregorian or zag just dont come out here anddaccuse him in aplace i doubt he even posts .. thats just low slandering someones name in public when they have no idea, so cant defend there actions

 

[Antiarch]

edit: double post ;p

 

[Antiarch]

Originally posted by Herbal remedy



3rd please dont bad mouth our whole guild over what one single member did (wether he was right or wrong)

I luv this guy ;p

what really bugs me is that ppl ALWAYS tend to flame GoL as an entity.

further more How come that the good deeds made by GoLs are never mentioned?

 

[old.Oedo]

I come on here to post because of the way i was treated by Sendoh ad your leader, i suppose i want sendoh to get on here and answer for himself, why are all of GoL coming on to protect him? Yes i have a higher level character, and i know leeching does get on my nerves, and i know that in the barrows alot of leeching goes on, but i can NEVER see myself bringing out my higher level character and running all the way the where the incident happened to leech for 10 minutes...

After complaining to Rhen about it (GoL 2nd Leader) I got a loads of crap thrown at me and then finally "its your problem m8"

thats why i decided to post on here and show ppl what immature people them 2 were. I used to hear alot of bad things about GoL but id always thought id give u guys a chance, but after that happened, i wondered why i was bothering. Maybe the stories ive heard are true?

 

[old.Lonewolf]

I don't think its GoL as a whole Oedo, I think its just this prick Sendoh being a little kiddy and being immature and a twat.

Yes its true GoL have a load of twats in their guild and yes its true they can't guide a bunch of pissheads to a brewery, let alone a army in RvR

But the majority are a decent bunch just one persons indescretion should not taint the rest of the guild

Let it lie now and let them contemplate their actions, the community is aware and don't worry I am sure they are doing absolutely nothing to deal with it so don't waste ya energy shouting blue murder here.

Just be happy in the knowledge that u are sensible and mature enough to turn the other cheek and laugh at thinking what a prat he is

(As for the slow people in the crowd the second paragraph was pure sarcasm, and there was no malicious intent at all)

 

[Herbal Remedy]

Originally posted by Lonewolf
I don't think its GoL as a whole Oedo, I think its just this prick Sendoh being a little kiddy and being immature and a twat.

Yes its true GoL have a load of twats in their guild and yes its true they can't guide a bunch of pissheads to a brewery, let alone a army in RvR

But the majority are a decent bunch just one persons indescretion should not taint the rest of the guild

Let it lie now and let them contemplate their actions, the community is aware and don't worry I am sure they are doing absolutely nothing to deal with it so don't waste ya energy shouting blue murder here.

Just be happy in the knowledge that u are sensible and mature enough to turn the other cheek and laugh at thinking what a prat he is

(As for the slow people in the crowd the second paragraph was pure sarcasm, and there was no malicious intent at all)

1st how is calling sendoh a prick going to make him changes his ways (if he was in the wrong) and calling him a kiddy to boot, comments like this show your lack of maturity not his. Flaming him or the guild wont help in anyway, did u think that by putting the backs up of the whole guild you are going to change his or our ways??????
sensable and mature person? flaming him in public doesnt sound sensible or mature and you being his guild leader coming on here and adding insult to ingury makes things wors.

And no offence but saying the guild has a lot of twats in it wtf is that about, your suppossed to be a guild leader, you speak for your guild, impressions of your guild are formed on your actions. Wether it was sarcasm or not it shouldnt have been said, its a very offence thing to say wether u meant it or not. Saying something like this just goes to show u have little idea of how to run a guild or interact with other guilds.I mean the use oftwta in referance to another guild or player shows a total lack of maturity on your part not his or ours, you sunk any arguement u could ever make by using such langauge.

2nd Have i ever seen north and south lead an army no have i ever seen them take an active part in keep defences as a guild? no, so until u show these mythical leadership qualities u obviously have please refrain from comment. We do not claim responsibilty for any army in rvr just sometimes greg is the one asked (Note i said asked) to lead the army by themajor guilds and the beta community. I would suggest u keep your oppinions very quite until u have tried to leada large mass of players while getting 10 send every second, controlling the army,getting intel on where the enemy is, organising seige equipment, communicating with the guild, communicatingwith other guilds on alliance chat, while trying to kill enemies /mobs/ npc gaurds.

So just a little suggestion for future referance please refrian from commenting on something u dont have the full facts or experiance of. To be honest your post and others by your guild members have angered me greatly, and i would addvise you that you should learn to control your guild before starting a slanging match with an other is which is far more respected than your litlle known guild. A s to the maturity or the guild did one single GoL member come on here and flame u no, they just asked for sendoh to defend himself before any judgements where made , to be honest from these posts it is you and your guild that lack maturity, i mean how do u expect the rest of albion to respect you and your guild if u behave like this in public.

I appologise if u feel i have flamed u in anyway, i am just trying to offer u some advise and due to the nature of your past post(s)
i may have put some points over more forcibily then i normally would have. But please do take my advise as i feel it could help you out alot

thx Herbal

{edit} antiarch has a very good point little do u hear about gols good actions all we seem to get is flamed which is a very sad thing to see

 

[Herbal Remedy]

Originally posted by Oedo
I come on here to post because of the way i was treated by Sendoh ad your leader, i suppose i want sendoh to get on here and answer for himself, why are all of GoL coming on to protect him? Yes i have a higher level character, and i know leeching does get on my nerves, and i know that in the barrows alot of leeching goes on, but i can NEVER see myself bringing out my higher level character and running all the way the where the incident happened to leech for 10 minutes...

After complaining to Rhen about it (GoL 2nd Leader) I got a loads of crap thrown at me and then finally "its your problem m8"

thats why i decided to post on here and show ppl what immature people them 2 were. I used to hear alot of bad things about GoL but id always thought id give u guys a chance, but after that happened, i wondered why i was bothering. Maybe the stories ive heard are true?

I would hope ud expect your freinds and guild m8s would publicly defend you and your guild, im good friends with sendoh as are many of the guild. Yes when u insult one of our members well defend him that just shows what a close knit guild we are, and in my oppion its not something to be annoyed about its something ot be proud of, and yes im damn proud of my guild and all that they do in rvr and else where.


Herbal damn proud to be GoL

 

[c0ngo]

Whether the leeching happened or not I can't agree with Sendohs actions.

But who is Rhenic going to beleive Sendoh, in the main GoL grp from the start of retail and probably from Beta, or someone complaining about him ?

Hardly fair to criticise Rhenic imho.

I was a GoL member for a few days and for a number of reasons decided they weren't the guild for me. I got a /tell when I left from Rhenic though wishing me luck with my new guild etc.

From the GoL members I've grouped with and chatted to I've found most to be much the same.

 

[old.Lonewolf]

Right Herbal u want some then u have got it lad!

Sarcasm is a low form of humour but it is humour none the less! And if u want to get up on your soapbox and straight bleating like a sheep then good for you but in no way did I intend any malicious actions towards GoL it was a humorous comment made from previous posts about GoL.

Read before u reply

As for GoL I have time and time again encountered problems with there members, consistently and I am sure the community at large agrees from the posts in this thread my answer there has been answered

As for a higher member of GoL bullying my Guild member I WILL FUCKING NOT TOLERATE IT, some of my members are young and impressionable and how dare anyone treat them with disrespect or aggression, I will never take any kind of abuse or threats from anyone including any high class twat from a so called respectable guild!

North and South are about enjoyment and fun, and yes we poke fun at other guilds, so if u want to take my post as an aggressive one then good for you

But how dare u come on here telling my how to or not run my guild when in no way did I provoke it. My member was intimidated and insulted here he is the victim so don't u dare try to turn it round to make it look like GoL are the victims

I suggest u go open a dictionary and learn the meaning of sarcasm and maybe a little light hearted humour

Now I will stress again just in case u missed it the first time!

READ the topic SENDOH is the issue here not the integrity of GoL and I still think they are a fair and fine guild

So stop making this simple discussion an argument about guilds when it is about one plonker pushing his weight around like a bully

And thats all he is a bully

 

[c0ngo]

Originally posted by Lonewolf

So stop making this simple discussion an argument about guilds when it is about one plonker pushing his weight around like a bully

You seem to be a bit confused then

Let it lie now and let them contemplate their actions, the community is aware and don't worry I am sure they are doing absolutely nothing to deal with it so don't waste ya energy shouting blue murder here.

Aimed at GoL I think

As for GoL I have time and time again encountered problems with there members, consistently and I am sure the community at large agrees from the posts in this thread my answer there has been answered.

Not really aimed at Sendoh

Just be happy in the knowledge that u are sensible and mature enough to turn the other cheek and laugh at thinking what a prat he is

Maybe you should take your own avice instead of posting rubbish like

As for a higher member of GoL bullying my Guild member I WILL FUCKING NOT TOLERATE IT

or

But how dare u come on here telling my how to or not run my guild when in no way did I provoke it. My member was intimidated and insulted here he is the victim so don't u dare try to turn it round to make it look like GoL are the victims

And if you claim that some of your members are

young and impressionable and how dare anyone treat them with disrespect or aggression

What are you doing in your post ? Clearly AGGRESSIVE and hardly respectful

Shame they don't sell handbags in the shops or I'd buy you one, or maybe it's just a dummy you require cause you seem to have spat yours out

 

[old.Lonewolf]

It seems there is no point trying to defend a person here because like all manifesto's and documents written any points or reasoning is usually read in the wrong manner or how the user wishes it to be read so I will leave this debate as it is simply of case of not educating anyone at all

I apologise for any aggressive behaviour or any comments that were taken the wrong way, I should have learned by now that forums are just a useless way of trying to make a point, they are just there for people to insult other people. I will remind my guild member to just ignore anyother indiscretion by a major guild member and to show deference and respect.


Peace I am outa here :sleeping:

 

[c0ngo]

@ Lonewolf

More like the sort of post I'd expect from a GC, a polite and reasonable post packed with sarcasm

The forums are indeed a rubbish place to make a point but I can't see any harm in naming and shaming someone who behaves like an idiot irrespective of their Guild/lvl/reasons, not that it'll actually do any good but that shouldn't stop people from trying to make a differance.