Groups

[Fafnir]

Is it only me that have problem to find groups? Yesterday i played for 20 hours in a row got 1 group invite from a lvl 5 warrior with my sb who is lvl 18. Been turned down because i'm to low lvl to high lvl. And what really made me mad was when i asked a group leader about grouping and he said sorry to low. Then saw the group fighting mobs /yelled for help i went in to help. Asked for group but to low. I could pull aggro from them but still to low third time they yelled for help i was afk. But when i got back they where pissed about that i didt help them. Their healer had died.

So i guess its ok for a lower lvl to help pulling aggro from healer and prob die doin it. But no ok to group even when i the 5 lvl range thats ok for grouping.

Got my zerker to lvl 16, and sb to 18 and the only one i grouped with is a gm that helped me get a few lvls.

I play this game because its a multiplayer game, if i wanted to run around alone all the time i would go play baldursgate or some other singleplayer game. And i might just quit Daoc because of this atm this game is 90% solo 10% grouped. And with Fafnir i even stopped asking for groups most of the time, since i hardly get any groups outside the guild.

 

[old.mattshanes]

Come to albion and join one of my groups shouldn't take long to get 50

Then again on a more serious note most people have had those problems in my guild i understand you views,i invite any class and mainly within 5 lvs of the lowest group member.It's a shame some people are like that,i had to solo quite a lot of lv40 lvs probably 2-3 lvs worth of exp.

 

[mavericky]

It's been a problem for a while, with my hunter I used to spend days and days flagged as lfg, hardly ever got one though. I am having a similar problem with my SB now often flagged but never gets invite, at least til they see that i have a level 50 shammy in tow.

 

[Roo Stercogburn]

Originally posted by mavericky
I am having a similar problem with my SB now often flagged but never gets invite, at least til they see that i have a level 50 shammy in tow.

Hehe, I've seen this kind of behaviour too. One of our SBs was going crazy trying to get a group so I went along as my lil 4x shammy, handed over those shammy steroids and followed around doing heals at downtime etc. Suddenly the aforementioned SB was everyone's best friend. Disapointing in a way to see that its only self interest at work for a lot of people :/

Was quite funny because there was someone in the group who was quite obnoxious and kept demanding Heal??? HEAL???? not realising that when you are ungrouped you don't have a minibar to watch and have to manually click on everyone to see their health.

Self interest + low intelligence. Wondeful combo and makes you proud of our species.

/em wanders off to find Darwin to give him a slap

 

[old.Ayam Ganbatte]

Fafnir, send Jyb (kobold skald) a tell if he's on, he'll group with you no problem.

 

[Solid]

Argh Faf go get RR5 on thane then play alts, some of the latest Moronic Gneration of idiots that think they know which classes group good and which dont will outlevel your cutey SB. (maybe my 8 Zerker can cath you up, then me you and TPS can hoon round takingn reds between us with no downtime cept End regen )

 

[Fafnir]

Originally posted by Solid
Argh Faf go get RR5 on thane then play alts, some of the latest Moronic Gneration of idiots that think they know which classes group good and which dont will outlevel your cutey SB. (maybe my 8 Zerker can cath you up, then me you and TPS can hoon round takingn reds between us with no downtime cept End regen )

But, but you are a gimp. Well until sunday night i will not play theese chars unless rvr are bad. All i want is to get to lvl 24 and go hamster mode on some poor tincan. And someone needs to give out advice.

 

[klavrynd]

i say this with pain in my heart, but getting an expgroup on excwalibuur is easier then on prydw0n.

USE THE LFG TAB !!!!!!!(1!!)

some of the latest Moronic Gneration of idiots that think they know which classes group good and which dont

yep, we've got the malmobred noobies (them being 1st char 11-17 days /pl and no idea about the realm/game) with an attitude and utter noobies that don't know shit about the game (can't blame them though, everyone has to start from zip)

 

[Ardrias_Mid]

I can understand group leaders choosing not to group rogues. Totally useless chars, at least imo.
Rather keep the group smaller, and take easier mobs, than to risk everyones lives by grouping a heal-drainer.

 

[asarhien]

Totally useless chars, at least imo.

um, no, not really, SBs actually can deal a LOT of damage , you can have a lot of fun watching their styles (I nearly died laughing one evening watching a kobold roll on the floor), hunters are great to group with, they can pull, they can deal melee dmg, or - depending on the group - can keep throwing sticks at them (sorry *g*) and still do serious damage.

they do not leech exp more or less than a healer does
(I should know, I play a healer )

 

[Candy lollipop]

true,
But grps just don't wanna have roques in grp,
so to lvl a SB or Hunter its just hard,

In spindel for example as a sb you ask ppl for grp "ppl who flag for members" and everytime their answer is "sry we're full" DOH lol don't tell me that silly "flagging for grp" buff is still not fixed.

And these days everyone got their Buffboty so they solo...
not going to say its bad, cuz I did the same..
lvled my SB to 38 in one week with buffboty

DaoC is going to be owned by buffbots..ones I guess.. :/

 

[Fafnir]

Originally posted by *-Candy-*
true,
But grps just don't wanna have roques in grp,
so to lvl a SB or Hunter its just hard,

In spindel for example as a sb you ask ppl for grp "ppl who flag for members" and everytime their answer is "sry we're full" DOH lol don't tell me that silly "flagging for grp" buff is still not fixed.

And these days everyone got their Buffboty so they solo...
not going to say its bad, cuz I did the same..
lvled my SB to 38 in one week with buffboty

DaoC is going to be owned by buffbots..ones I guess.. :/

I only got 1 comp. And dont have a buffbot so that got to lvl 38 in a week is pretty impossible for me. And im not the only one without a buff bot.

 

[Solid]

Rogues are only bad in a gorup if there is no tank to take its aggro. Yes if the rogue is 2 levels higher than everyone else and is in the goup, he will be a healer drain, but if there is an equal level (or higher level warrior/thane) then they have no excuse for not taunting theoir little arses of using as very fast 1H weapon.

Number of dumb fuck troll tanks using 2H hammer then whining that rogues take aggro and cause healewrs to waste mana is ridiculously high.

Ardrias just cos people dont know how xp grpoups work and how to work with damage dealers, dont say rogues are useless. My 5 spec SB hits liek a Zerker with even more frontload, all I need is to wait for a taunt from a fast 1H tank before I PA+CD and if said tank continues to taunt using a fast 1H i got no probs. If said tanks decides to use his half a brain and stick Guard on me, EVEN FREAKING BETTER.

My statement stands, there is a whole generation of idiots out there atm that DO NOT KNOW HOW TO GROUP

Sorry for caps but it does piss me off people saying X class or Y cass is lame in grops when in fact its their own deficiencies and understanding of the game that is to blame.

Sidenote, Ardtrias, bet you used a big whopping 2H hammer when you levelled ur thane right?

 

[Solid]

And btw Hunters hit bloody hard using Spears if they bother to spec it, and its evident now that days of 50 Bow 50 Beast 36 Stealth 11 Spear Hunters are long and dead and so those Spear Speccing hunters will do very good damage and fast, seeing as they train Qui with levels. At later levels a 2H using Spear Hunter can hit twice as fast as a 2H using Troll Thane, those 2 spear hits doing comparable damage to the Thanes 1 swing

 

[old.mattshanes]

Hehe solid your sb's damage isn't that bad actually even matt was surprised anyway when i had a sb on excal(deleted now because i didn't like the people there at all)i always got crap like the above.Oh well as i said in a alb thread so people should be quiet if they don't know the true potential of a class and realise that no class is bad really.

 

[old.Ozird Rinfut]

Candy, the LFG bug in spindel was stil lthere prior to v1.52, I experienced it myself lots of times (as a group leader...)

Solid, ur right about spear specced hunters, they rock!

 

[Solid]

Hehe matty that was at 46n with only 36 base Axe

I have now got 48.5, 39 Base Axe and 2x 99% Arcanium Axes. Also ot a +4 CS necklace so my PA should hit for even more, looking forward to meeting you in battle again, now that AF buffs are fixed

 

[Jupitus]

Step One: Get one of your employees to roll a cleric

Step Two: Roll an infiltrator

Step Three: Group Up

Step Four: Threaten to sack him if he lets you die and then use all the styles you can to grab the aggro

Well... worked for me

 

[old.mattshanes]

Beware of quickcast mez solid or you be dead 2-3 nukes then again it's good to see a sb like you solo proves you are worthy of being one i.e death has been solo loads of times and look at his rp

 

[Ottar]

> Is it only me that have problem to find groups?

As this subject keeps popping up I think there are others as well.

Question: how often/regularly do you play?

Getting groups and rather more importantly, getting good groups relies heavily on meeting people who you “click with” and then grouping with these people.

Problem is, if you have long pauses between your gaming sessions (even a few days is sufficient) you will have to start all over again as people you grouped with have outlevelled you.

Playing regularly I distinctly remember 1 single case when I was desparately looking for a group and couldn’t get one for a whole bloody day. Was a few days into retail when Ottar was lvl 12 or so.. And that considering Im a lazy bastard meaning I rarely started groups and preferred to join others.

Ottar

 

[Fafnir]

Well i can say i'm online almost everyday. Playing diff. chars.
Or evening thoose 15 days a month i work at my full time job.

 

[Hufner]

All I can say to spear-specced hunters - we do indeed do a lot of damage, even at lower levels

 

[Ardrias_Mid]

2H specced thanes rocked, you should know Solid

And as my sig indicates, I have a shaman, altho only level 24, and rogues are the worst thing I got in a group.
Sure, tanks are supposed so take aggro, but what if they don't?
One miss is enough to make sure the SB has aggro for 2 hits. Then he dies.

My viewpoint stands as it is. Perhaps my dislikings against rogues are from RvR...

I rarely see rogues group, other than to get a fend/speed, then they disband. RP-horny maggots, most of them, therefore I think it serves them right to get no exp-groups. Anything a rogue does in a group, another class does better.

 

[old.mattshanes]

In rvr shield and hammer thanes are a lot harder to beat although 2h thanes do good damage.

 

[Fafnir]

Originally posted by Ardrias_Mid
And as my sig indicates, I have a shaman, altho only level 24, and rogues are the worst thing I got in a group.
Sure, tanks are supposed so take aggro, but what if they don't?
One miss is enough to make sure the SB has aggro for 2 hits. Then he dies.

Well when i had Fafnir in Malmö, and swinged my 2h hammer using provoke and my dd's, at lvl 44 i drew aggro from most other players, even sbs that just backstabbed the mob. Was in Raumarik with a guildmate yesterday morning she skald lvl 50 swinging 2h and taunting. I with 1h my damage buff taunting. How took aggro from 1 hit til the mob fell me. Even when the i missed the mob 3 times in a row i still held the aggro.

And btw why should a SB group most of the time they scout and when they get killed most of the time they have to release since none wants to rezz them. But you always count of the intel they supply.

 

[Fafnir]

And whats really fun was i took my warrior to the same zone, 1 min after i got in, the leader that turned down my sb wanted to invite my warrior, even when it was 11 lvls between me and the lowest lvl in the group. Guess he is a SB hater too.

And why should healers ever want to group with Thanes we are a drain to the healer. We are mezz breakers, we take aggro we die. Because you hit the wrong hot key ooopppps sorry didt mean to ae.

 

[mcitchy]

Cant say I have a problem grouping my shadowblade, but then again I make a point of not taking the aggro from the main tank, usually let them hit the mob a couple of times, PA and then use low endurance axe positional styles. Once enough people have grouped with you and get used to the way you play the groups come easier. Was taking out purple WW Guards with me, a thane and a healer with little downtime this way.

In an emergency i've usually got enough endurance left to get aggro off of the healer and a spare weap poisoned to make it happen that little bit quicker.

I always play knowing that I'm wearing paper armour and that I'm not very high on the healers list for gogo juice. The number of times i've seen runies cast high damage spells to early into a fight, get aggro and die is beyond a joke... would be funny but for the whining that can be heard after from the runie blaming the tank, healer, anybody but themselves... There's a lot of people out there who have no clue about managing aggro and thats a lot of the problem

waffle waffle waffle someone shoot me

 

[cenestra]

Originally posted by Ardrias_Mid

I rarely see rogues group, other than to get a fend/speed, then they disband. RP-horny maggots, most of them, therefore I think it serves them right to get no exp-groups. Anything a rogue does in a group, another class does better.

Hmmm cheeky git!! (LOL) ... you obviously havent seen that many rogues in rvr then. Cenestra is a level 50 huntress, i think i can count on 2 hands the number of times i have rvr'd solo .. much better to grp. Same goes for just about every other hunter and SB i know within the game. So sorry you are wrong imo MOST rogues are not RP - Horny Maggots

 

[Solid]

All good and well swinging your 2H alpha strike and holding aggro for 5 secs, what happens on your 3rd strike when the SB has swung 7 times in the same time it takjes you to swing twice?

Dont kid yourself, Faf I challenge you to take aggro off Solid and his 3.3 speed 1H hammer on a deep purple mob, eg a WoW or the GG, bet you wont hold aggro for more than 5 secs. 2H tanks cannot not hold aggro longterm, but in malmo when draks only live for 3 secs, using 2H of course will get you aggro as the mob dont live long enuff for Fast 1H tanks to steal aggro away using taunts.

 

[Fafnir]

Well if you read i used 1h in raumarik. Battle Hammer.