group setup for DR (25 ppl)

[bouh]

It's not a sign up topic for DR

Im gonna explain some hints/tactical issues how to kill Gja in minimum amount of time.

Dragon aggro group (G1):
1. 2h hammer savage - spamming provoke all the time
2. hammer spec warrior - spamming provoke all the time, guarding 2.
3. any warrior - guarding 2, spamming taunting style in the case G1 lost aggro.
4. full supp runnie
5. high aug shammy
6-8. aug/mend, 2 mend healers

Damage group (G2):
1-3. aug/mend, 2 mend healers
4. aug balanced shammy
5. skald
6-8. savage/zerker

Damage group (G3):
1-2. aug/mend, mend healers
3. aug balanced shammy.
4-5. savages.

Dog hunters (G4):
1. Pac healer.
2. Darkness runnie.
3-4. shammy, healer, runnie, etc...

G4 is the most important group. Those ppl must be very fast on reaction. G4 leader set 1 guard to each exit from the Lair. The job of g4 is to get aggro of all the spawned dogs and inform in cg about that. Pac healer provides pom additionally and dark rm provides dmg add. Those ppl are not allowed to leave their guarding area, so i some1 needs rebuff he has to head toward proper exit.

Dragon is actually easy to kill durring 20-30 mins. But if even a single dog escapes from the Lair there could be up to 20 lvl65 mobs. And it's almost impossible to kill for 3FGs count a Dragon as well. In some cases u still can manage uber adds (if 10 come or so) with a good MA and assist but it's kinda extreme.

GL

 

[old.Sko]

correction.
hammer savage cannot be main aggro holder -
yesterday on first two attempts boogy consistently took aggro from dragon, and even providing shaman damage shield on sazabi didnot help.
but on 3rd attempt aggro was consistently held by naimit.
conclusion warrior >> all =D

 

[bouh]

Originally posted by old.Sko
correction.
hammer savage cannot be main aggro holder -
yesterday on first two attempts boogy consistently took aggro from dragon, and even providing shaman damage shield on sazabi didnot help.
but on 3rd attempt aggro was consistently held by naimit.
conclusion warrior >> all =D

boogy has to be banned from any DR as far as he was forbidden to use side style and he still used to do it.

Sazabi (2h savage) and Rotcev (hammer warr) were holding aggro mostly all the time on raids 3 and 4.

 

[old.anubis]

he used taunt shout last time
i asked him why and he said cause he wanted to look uber, savage dmg and all this girl stuff
he is so strongly roleplaying his savage, it's incredible, not like all yoo rp whores

 

[rg-zorena]

Bah when your done with ur silly 25 ppl dragon raids...
boogy sneaks up at night and solo it fyi
I've seen it myself!

 

[bouh]

Originally posted by rg-zorena
Bah when your done with ur silly 25 ppl dragon raids...

we might kill it in 24 of us for sure but boogy were begging to let him join to improve his st10ng r013p1ay3r sk111 ^^

 

[harebear]

i wouldnt mind being G2 skald for any future raids

 

[old.Lethul]

Originally posted by bouh
It's not a sign up topic for DR
Damage group (G2):
1-3. aug/mend, 2 mend healers
4. aug balanced shammy
5. skald
6-8. savage/zerker

ive read somewhere hunter damage >> tank damage vs epic mobs, not sure about this tho but guess it could be tested in a future raid

 

[harebear]

well ickle kobbys with poles hit kinda hard on my skald so i guess it could be true

 

[fl3a]

Re: Re: group setup for DR (25 ppl)

Originally posted by old.Lethul
ive read somewhere hunter damage >> tank damage vs epic mobs, not sure about this tho but guess it could be tested in a future raid

i also read that Rapid Fire > tank dmg

 

[old.Lethul]

Originally posted by harebear
well ickle kobbys with poles hit kinda hard on my skald so i guess it could be true

arrows ofc

 

[old.Lythande]

Ya I read that on VN aswell, apparently hunters do like ~25 dmg/arrow compared to the 1-3 dmg tanks usually do.

 

[Noheals-WR]

heard that thats the way...

damage grp under the belly made up mostly of hunters giving it rapido fire using best arrows (blunts?)

but i just read that somewhere...

smale

 

[boogyman]

Hihi, im allways getting aggros with axe side style, even if its tg mobs vs sm pet+damage shield ^^ have no idea why tbh.. tho after last raid 1 gimp BC savage (wont tell who) spammed me, asking why the hell i taunted

 

[old.Sko]

Originally posted by old.Lythande
Ya I read that on VN aswell, apparently hunters do like ~25 dmg/arrow compared to the 1-3 dmg tanks usually do.

warrior does 18-25 with taunt, 25-30 with havoc/glacial movement.

 

[boogyman]

Originally posted by old.Sko
warrior does 18-25 with taunt, 25-30 with havoc/glacial movement.

Heh, now i see why im getting aggros, doing 30-40 with glacier movement on Gjalp

Originally posted by old.Lythande
Ya I read that on VN aswell, apparently hunters do like ~25 dmg/arrow compared to the 1-3 dmg tanks usually do.

Lol, maybe US tanks...not Exc ones ^^

 

[old.Sko]

with 2H

 

[boogyman]

omg Shhhhhh..



wtfpwned Q.Q

 

[old.Sko]

Originally posted by boogyman
omg Shhhhhh..



wtfpwned Q.Q

just admit that warriors >> j00 =D

 

[bouh]

Re: Re: group setup for DR (25 ppl)

Originally posted by old.Lethul
ive read somewhere hunter damage >> tank damage vs epic mobs, not sure about this tho but guess it could be tested in a future raid

An avarage hunter does a little bit higher dmg (ranged) then an avarage tank (melee) - yes. Additionally hunter avoids pbae nuke.
And yes, we accept hunters for savage/zerker position but we dont have many of them in BC thou.

 

[old.Lythande]

Originally posted by old.Sko
warrior does 18-25 with taunt, 25-30 with havoc/glacial movement.

Ok Hell if I know last time I was on a DR with my savage I was lvl44 in spindel drops.

 

[phule_gubben]

Doh.

What else to say.