Group Purge

[StormriderX]

Originally posted by - Fedaykin -
just met 1 fg LA while i was in a random group of albs, i see LA approaching on the horizon and sure enough i get a mezz in -

my group gets an insta mezz for their trouble...

Think those are your biggest problems there

Expecting a random group to beat a group from a rvr guild is just silly

Also your group getting insta mezzed when you land mezz first, instead of spreading out showed that the people you played with just plain suck :x

 

[lofff]

heh, would like to see the flames if u had to fight sos+2curemezzers(albs) or 3curemezzer(mids)

off-topic: u trying to beat outlaw's mark on the grasseating contest?;d barely ever playing my champ but each time i do i gank y0 over and over;d /fuffle liddul avalonian

 

[Puppetmistress]

Re: Re: Group Purge

Originally posted by StormriderX
Think those are your biggest problems there

Expecting a random group to beat a group from a rvr guild is just silly

Also your group getting insta mezzed when you land mezz first, instead of spreading out showed that the people you played with just plain suck :x

Doesnt change the fact GP can be a royal pain in the ass for a sorcerer (no insta mezzes) and a highly unreliable 2nd CC (level 30 AoE root;not that great on Hibernia casters).

Not saying a random group of Albs should own a guildgroup, but if that random group of Albs gets in the initial CC just to see it get GP'ed plain sucks.

If the sorcerer then gets insta-mezzed and the rest of the alb-group not is not really relevant to me.

But then again, the game is full of lame RA's (SOS, BOF, GP, BAOD, PR, ichor to name a few) and you need them to be competative against the enemy who has them too..

My druid has grouppurge too and perhaps it saved my group quite a few times, but then again... so did SOS and BOF

 

[Begach]

Originally posted by Flimgoblin
it was supposedly fixed in 1.52

anyone care to test it? I know I don't get instantly remezzed when I single purge... so I'm somewhat dubious of the people saying you can be after you group purge.

GP was not designed to start the immunity timer. Your purge was. I once got mezzed 3 (THREE) fuckin times off an RvR mid group in about 5 seconds (healer insta, druid GP, healer castable, single purge, remezzed again instantly from mezz on a different class). That would not have happened with SoS. You know how to counter GP. You didn't (How feckin hard is it to spam mezz??). Cry more!!

B.

 

[angara-ffs]

Originally posted by <Harle>
GP does give immunity, dunno why people still think it doesn't. Could have something to do with spell-effects, since midgrad insta-aoe-stun has a zzzz-gfx, so if a druid GPs that and then gets mezzed on top of that, with another zzzz-gfx, you might get to think you have been remezzed, when you have just been properly stunned and mezzed afterwards.

Delura, i have to disagree with you.
On several occasions i waited with GP untill mids was done with their castfest2k.....Stun/Mezz/Dis/Whatever...used gp...got remezzed the sec after i used GP.

We should test it imo to get the facts straight.

 

[Begach]

Bit lighter note to the sorc. Mezzers are always the first to drop. Even when your group wins the CC'er normally is lyin ass up somewhere fealin sorry for himself/herself because the rest of the group was too busy WTFPWNING!!!! the other group. Shit happens, it comes with the territory in all realms.

B.

 

[Puppetmistress]

Originally posted by Begach
GP was not designed to start the immunity timer. Your purge was. I once got mezzed 3 (THREE) fuckin times off an RvR mid group in about 5 seconds (healer insta, druid GP, healer castable, single purge, remezzed again instantly from mezz on a different class). That would not have happened with SoS. You know how to counter GP. You didn't (How feckin hard is it to spam mezz??). Cry more!!

B.

Spamming mezz is not a counter to Grouppurge. Insta mezz and casted mezz off healer are on same immunity-timer.

Grouppurge SHOULD give immunity to the effect(s) you grouppurged. Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't. It works great versus Albs-group where only the sorcerer has a viable AoE-mezz.

 

[Javai]

Whenever I have tried to remezz a group that have GP'd I get the 'can't have that effect again message'.

Of course if you purge mezz you won't have any immunity to aoe stun....oh hang on Albs don't have that..........

 

[Begach]

Originally posted by Puppetmistress
Spamming mezz is not a counter to Grouppurge. Insta mezz and casted mezz off healer are on same immunity-timer.

Grouppurge SHOULD give immunity to the effect(s) you grouppurged. Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't. It works great versus Albs-group where only the sorcerer has a viable AoE-mezz.

GP never has and never will provide mezz immunity no matter how much you want it too. Find some other reason for losing

SoS + BoF + MoC on CC class + mezz reduction buffs + long duration bolt range mezz on a 1.5 (or there abouts) cast + extra form of CC to keep tanks off. I see no reason to complain or lose here.

Edit: Oh yeah i fergot end chant on a defensive tank wearing plate. RUN4TEHWIN!!!

Again cry more imo!!

B.

 

[Puppetmistress]

Originally posted by Begach
GP never has and never will provide mezz immunity no matter how much you want it too. Find some other reason for losing

SoS + BoF + MoC on CC class + mezz reduction buffs + long duration bolt range mezz on a 1.5 (or there abouts) cast + extra form of CC to keep tanks off. I see no reason to complain or lose here.

Edit: Oh yeah i fergot end chant on a defensive tank wearing plate. RUN4TEHWIN!!!

Again cry more imo!!

B.

Ehm.. I PLAY a druid. Check my signature I play Hib and Alb in RvR and I happen to PLAY the druid with grouppurge. There are some bugs with Grouppurge but more often then not after grouppurge you are immune to the effect you grouppurged. This makes sense because then it would work the same way as 'regular purge'.

Cry more? I dont get it. I am saying that normally when I GP with my druid that awful dreaded long duration sorc mezz my group is immune to that effect. It has NEVER happened to my druid personally that I got remezzed immediatly. Some groupmembers claim it happened, but it's not easy to verify (did I grouppurge their stun or mezz for instance).

The way you describe it (SoS+BoF+MoC+2nd CC on main-CC'er) is only when all those RA's are activated. No way of loosing? LOL. I got experience in both realms and I can tell you that all those RA's are no insta-win buttons. And neither is Grouppurge.

Grouppurge can be a pain for a sorc. BOF can be a pain for a hero, etc etc.

 

[Jiggs]

Originally posted by Begach
SoS + BoF + MoC on CC class + mezz reduction buffs + long duration bolt range mezz on a 1.5 (or there abouts) cast + extra form of CC to keep tanks off. I see no reason to complain or lose here.

thats the best thing i read in a long time, lol

 

[old.Nol]

You should try being a bard and have 4 knuckleduster weilding bastards shrug your mezz off in a couple of seconds and then ask yourself why in Gods name you are the ONLY primary CC class without root.

 

[Jergiot]

there is no point whatsoever to whine about GP.
we got sos/bof wich are just as good imo.

 

[Arnor]

Originally posted by Jergiot
there is no point whatsoever to whine about GP.
we got sos/bof wich are just as good imo.

thank you

 

[Puppetmistress]

Originally posted by Jergiot
there is no point whatsoever to whine about GP.
we got sos/bof wich are just as good imo.

And you can 'combine' them to play semi-Godmode for the duration

 

[ab_fluid]

i always purge b4 i slow arse druids (ang!) gp

 

[Gahldir]

Originally posted by - Fedaykin -
anyone else getting really pissed off with this RA?

just met 1 fg LA while i was in a random group of albs, i see LA approaching on the horizon and sure enough i get a mezz in -

Great i thinK!

oh wait no!

suddenly 2 enchanter pets and a grey con twig are attacking me i get slammed straight away, my group gets an insta mezz for their trouble...

even when albs get the jump on the hibs the sorc dies

sometimes albs can survive GP but IMO its too good at the moment

a nice fix for it would be for it to wipe the targets of everyone in your group when it is used so they actually have to reacces the situation and look for the sorc


and yes





i got owned

press that ae-root button of yours imo

 

[Gahldir]

I have been remezzed 3 secs after purging mezz+stun.

I have also resisted mezz after GPd mezz.

both with my very own GP.

 

[Gahldir]

Originally posted by Javai
Whenever I have tried to remezz a group that have GP'd I get the 'can't have that effect again message'.

Of course if you purge mezz you won't have any immunity to aoe stun....oh hang on Albs don't have that..........

no, they have root.

 

[Puppetmistress]

Originally posted by ab_fluid
i always purge b4 i slow arse druids (ang!) gp

Ofcourse a druid GP's slower then you, he has to decide how many are CC'ed and if GP is necessary

 

[Javai]

Originally posted by Gahldir
no, they have root.

IF they have specced that way so that they have a lower duration mezz.

And root will keep a tank off your back it will not stop you dying to the Hib casters.

 

[old.Nol]

Originally posted by Javai
IF they have specced that way so that they have a lower duration mezz.

And root will keep a tank off your back it will not stop you dying to the Hib casters.

I am alot more worried about tanks then I am about casters mate.

 

[Javai]

Originally posted by old.Nol
I am alot more worried about tanks then I am about casters mate.

That's because you don't fight Hibs and we don't have BoaD

 

[hotrat]

Pretty sure GP is bugged and should give immunity but sometimes doesn't. I have fought hib pbae groups a lot, and spam mezzed them, after a GP, doesn't seem to do much, basically if i see a lot of ppl casting i switch to ae root, cast it a couple of times then cast amnesia.
Check the druid TL report, think I read in there something about please fix GP it doesn't always give immunity.

oh here it is

3) Purge and Group Purge are still not consistent in applying temporary immunities. I receive many complaints, but cannot come up with a repeatable method of making the immunity not work.

(Mythic Feedback)Be sure to keep this bug /appealed. I believe we've fixed all bugs related to this, although there may still be some that we haven't been able to reproduce.

Link to the report: http://pub58.ezboard.com/fhiberniasdruidsfrm2.showMessage?topicID=777.topic

So basically if group purge was not supposed to give immunity Mythic would have said here: this is not a bug, group purge is not supposed to give immunity, but they didn't so I guess it is supposed to, but only sometimes does. It probably varies for each member in the group as well.

 

[old.Nol]

Originally posted by Javai
That's because you don't fight Hibs and we don't have BoaD

believe it or not, boad helps nought with quads...go figure...

 

[Javai]

Originally posted by old.Nol
believe it or not, boad helps nought with quads...go figure...

That was my point, you have better defense against magical attacks hence you fear tanks more than casters, Albs have BoF therefore I tend to still be scared of casters...

 

[fl3a]

Re: Re: Re: Group Purge

Originally posted by Puppetmistress
But then again, the game is full of lame RA's (SOS, BOF, GP, BAOD, PR, ichor to name a few)

oh yes, nerf ichor please, after all shammies have to pay only 14 RSP for what nature droods get in specline!

 

[chrstffr]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Group Purge

Originally posted by fl3a
oh yes, nerf ichor please, after all shammies have to pay only 14 RSP for what nature droods get in specline!

But if u go nature, u gotta be sure theres a nurture druid waiting to join group with u..

Can't compare tbh

 

[StormriderX]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Group Purge

Originally posted by fl3a
oh yes, nerf ichor please, after all shammies have to pay only 14 RSP for what nature droods get in specline!

Actually ichor should be compared with twf - which is on 30minutes vs 15 and needs a gt to be set first t.t.

Shammie also get ae root so whine less imo

 

[~INCOGNITO~]

Originally posted by chrstffr