Group policy. WE have same ?

[elerand]

Originally posted by Ensceptifica
As long as everybody sticking to the GL pays attention, there shouldn't be a problem, regardless of who leads. In practise though, people usually stick to the bard and often chat away and pay little attention until they're under attack. That usually means the death of the bard. Only a few guild/veteran RvR groups really continuously pay attention. If you have a lazy group, I'd say get a tank to lead, so the bard is safe in the group behind and doesn't get the first damage.

Basically that's it, doesn't matter so much as long as everyone is paying attention and ready to do their part.

Also some friendliness in rvr goes a long way, too many people resort to yelling and cursing cos things didn't go the way it should have, best to helpfully instruct people on a good idea, don't get on a high horse over it and everyone learns.

Like that night we decided we had enough of people zerging to the PK and point blank refused to rez them, they came back and we held the wall against a mass of albs for over 3 hours

I think things are improving for us, we are discussing points of strategy more and doing less rash things. Now so long as we remember to pass that wisdom along we won't get periodic rushes of RP horny monkeys

 

[angara-ffs]

Personally i want to have a CC type of player in front. And NOT a druid...cant figure it out why people say this.
Anywaaay...mostly in the groups i am in a bard or caster leads.
I wont have to explain it, as Tyka allready did and i fully agree.

see post:

Why would you want a tank to lead, give me 1 reason except that they can take alot of bashing? Whoever says that a tank should lead a fg through emain dont know jack shit...

Tanks who lg arent that good.
What does a tank have to offer? Stun? And IP,moose....all a waste of RA's if u ask me, more usefull when opponent uses purge and breaks free and starts to gank.

 

[Ziva]

I agree on what Ensceptificamuralya says, basically anyone can lead if the whole group pays attention. Unfortunately (as been said) some people like to stick without giving further notice to all that's happening.

A good GL imho is a person who:
1) knows the way around
2) doesn't run into zergs
3) stops when people are oos/need buffing
4) doesn't run into aggro with lower leveled in the group
5) makes sure he's a member of a cg so he knows whats going on
6) looks out for people in need for a rez (even when they are not member of a group)
7) tries to tell people when inc
8) regroups at end of fights

Since i RvR i only met a few people who made a very good GL. These people have some sort of natural born leadership in them and with such a GL nobody really seems to argue a lot. Too bad sometimes Group Members seem to know it better and start argueing the GL. Usually the problems start when this happens.

I am a mage and i am usually sticked to a healer or bard but as soon as i see a zerg in front of me i usually unstick because i've been pulled into them a bit too often causing me to die. I think all non-tanks should try to stand back a bit more because they have more chance of surviving and most classes can dmg at a distance so why stand in the middle then?

 

[lofff]

Originally posted by Tyka


Ok lofff u need to read my post again mate

i cant bother explaining it for you again, but in short, casters can do something from range, like taking out important key member of the enemies first, wich a tank cant do as good, because if u are going to, u have everyone stick on you in middle of the enemies. ok?

ehm no, i dont need to.

Bout ur short answer sorry but there is a short explanation: instas. light elds ofc can aemezz which is an important point, but its secondary mezz for those who got out of bard aemezz and are charguing him... Every caster needs to cast, which means ud get mb .5secs improvement in ur first cast by leading, thats what other casters in group will take to start casting... main diff is ud b targeted by enemies and they wont, so ud b interrupted after ur first cast and they might not b.

Anyways other tanks wo instas will work better on leading than a caster since, again: they can take hits = casters cannot / they can fight while taking hits, casters cannot. And no, tanks dont need to carry all group into midle of enemies since the group is supossed to unstick before etc...

 

[Novamir]

Originally posted by Tyka
Why would you want a tank to lead, give me 1 reason except that they can take alot of bashing?

that was the reason.

and if you think 30sec aoe mez is sufficient, ur badly wrong xd

but overall there are good leaders and bad leaders in rvr, no matter what the char. i'd prefer a good tank leader over a good mage leader tho, simply because hes the first point of bashing and can take the most hits.

 

[Novamir]

the only bard I actually like to lead who i'm grouped with is Miss, the rest tend to kamikaze too much. otherwise i prefer the bard to stick to me/cuth

 

[Tyka]

im not gonna mez, i nuke while everyone else gets position, and the group still get the benefit of not removing /stick in middle of the enemy group.

 

[Novamir]

im not saying your way doesn't work, just not the best way imo

 

[Salazar]

The funny part actually is that Tyka insisted being GL while he was still a tank... i suppose it´s just about some ppl´s obsession to be leader

 

[lofff]

Originally posted by Novamir

but overall there are good leaders and bad leaders in rvr, no matter what the char.

thats right.

the only bard I actually like to lead who i'm grouped with is Miss, the rest tend to kamikaze too much. otherwise i prefer the bard to stick to me/cuth

thats ass kissing