Gratz Albs

[Garok]

i wasnt there but i choose to defend my class that will be nerfed into the toilet.

Mushrooms are spawned onto pre defined lock points which is why i can drop a mushroom into the lords room. Its not a bug abuse because we checked with mythic it is a feature.

If mushrooms are being spawned on to a dodgy spot its not the animists fault its called shite mythic coding that has been asked to be fixed for the past 3 team leader reports.

And your right bubble nothing in the Coc about alarm clock relic raids but generally when they are done by mid or hib they get whined at by the albs likewise the hibs are now whining at albion for doing the same. But as it seems that all gloves are off it wouldnt surprise me if alarm clock rr's become the norm.

I know for one im not going to be doing 12 hour shifts to defend the relic keep like i used to do ive got better things to do than stay up till 6 am in the morning defending a virtual relic that we can just retake during the day.

Still Shroomers will have more fun in NF than anyone whos plays a tank.

 

[Awarkle]

nice garok most shroomers /quit after frontiers come out

Shrooms have 70% hp nerf IE 1 aoe nuke will take them out
Shrooms have range limiters on them so if im not within their range they wont nuke.
Shroomers now have a pet limit in certain ares IE if i move into an area where other animists are i might not be able to cast my mushrooms (class defining ability)
Bombers wont go through keep doors (spec defining ability)

So that leaves me with a lvl 45 life tap bugged shrooms and more pathing problems than galladoria.

Roll an animist and then tell me if you think im fixed.

 

[Edlina]

Maybe accept the appology instead of flaming me?

What apology? You saying 45 is plenty to kill random albs? - Which is obviously true, but it's not an apology.

 

[Edlina]

"mids can do a primetime relic raid.. why can't albs?" - simple, amgE is the problem, it is always camped, by hibs, mids or albs, there is always something there, and because of that it is nearly impossible to get past it. while the mmgE is much more easy to get through. Also there are many more players between apk-amg then there are between mpk-mmg. you can ask like all hib stealthers: where do you go first... mmgE or amgE?? i think that everyone knows the answer to that.

99% of hib stealthers who has run on my ctr has asked if we were going mmg and he could stick until we got there - promptly no is the reply, but most goes mmg so ye that answer is obvious.

And also you do realize there's a ton of tactics you can use - Corpse Summoner Marfach (impossible but still mids managed to do it) just clear out emain, do login raid, treb raid whatever, making this excuse totally worthless and just a proof albs don't have the tictacs of the mids.

 

[Solthyann]

when i see ur logic it make me laugh hah

When you see my logic come back and talk to us - we'll be waiting, we have a looooong time

 

[Boggy]

when we tried to bash the doors we had many shrooms just at doors and not able to hits any of them and they were in melee range..
nice to see hibs also have to abuse bug to win
rly nice xD

They are called snap points and you have to know how to use them. Mythic deliberately introduced them a little while ago and will remove them in NF. It's overpowered but it's not a bug.

GTAoE can cast on an area from a distance with no LoS, as can Volley. These are not bug abuse either. In fact, since neither can be neutralised with one CC, some PBAoE or nuking from range (as shrooms can be taken out), these things can be even more annoyingly difficult to avoid/prevent (though not as lethal when people fail to neutralise).

If you want to see how many Hibs are in RvR, just go check daoc stats. It's sorry reading. We're one of the lowest scoring and least played rvr classes on any realm. In NF we drop even further. I can handle that. I chose to play an animist. But it is kinda annoying to see all the hyperbole from enemies who just shout about shrooms instead of checking their facts.

 

[Solthyann]

Look at Shroom defnce this way... would Albs cry if they were facing 2fg of rooted Casters? I doubt it

The more I read the whine the more I feel that they just don't like shrooms cos they don't like the lack of RPs

 

[Bubble]

What apology? You saying 45 is plenty to kill random albs? - Which is obviously true, but it's not an apology.

I admited i was wrong ^^
not that a jackass like you deserves anything

 

[Edlina]

I admited i was wrong ^^
not that a jackass like you deserves anything

Admitting you were wrong isn't the same as an apology, stop bs'ing around, and in the mean time stop whining about smth you know nothing off.

 

[Bubble]

Admitting you were wrong isn't the same as an apology, stop bs'ing around, and in the mean time stop whining about smth you know nothing off.

Trolls like you shouldn't be allowed to post here.
When even post in this forum, i post that for albions to RR during primetime against hibs it would be very difficult(and i posted reasons why), I thought animist were nerfed next patch not this patch(hell i don't play an animist) and i have faught again then at a number of keep raids and been insta killed by there pets (or my whole group has)

Instead of just bs'ing as you put it, read my post and Phusion's instead of just coming here and trolling

 

[Edlina]

Waste of time to try and argue with someone that doesn't know what he's talking about, wouldn't you agree?

 

[Garok]

Shrooms have 70% hp nerf IE 1 aoe nuke will take them out.

Hits now inline with therg pets .. which can move ofc but change target like turrets

Shroomers now have a pet limit in certain ares IE if i move into an area where other animists are i might not be able to cast my mushrooms (class defining ability).

Reason bieng that 10 AEO shrooms in a chokepoint means that every attacker passing through is counted as being attacked by 10 opponents increaseingf the chance of getting hit.

Bombers wont go through keep doors (spec defining ability).

Neither can other (bolt) type spells

Shrooms have range limiters on them so if im not within their range they wont nuke.).

Same as Necro and yes it sucks..

So that leaves me with a lvl 45 life tap bugged shrooms and more pathing problems than galladoria.

Yes but Shrooms are not just damage dealers there are also ablative ones BT ones etc have stacks of utility. lvl 45 tap sucks yes but you wont get lvl 50 one since VW with 50 life tap evade 5 and parry = silly

Roll an animist and then tell me if you think im fixed.

I rolled a verdant spec'd one on excal it was fun to have alot of tools @ my disposial. But i can see your point in the fact that the class is only realy viable in RvR for static battles (ie keep takes mile gate defence etc) .... but .. they have a hell of alot of other stuff that makes them usefull in PvE.. pet spam, bt, abs buff, ablative buff, damage debuff etc which is more than can be said for alot of casters.

 

[Edlina]

Neither can other (bolt) type spells

A bolt can fly straight at the target while a bomber has to "run" there and can't pass thru walls or doors so you can't cast it from the bms with los to your target, or you can, but it won't hit anyone.

 

[Maleg]

Neither can other (bolt) type spells (spoken in the context of bombers not going through keep doors)

Incorrect, say a target is on a keep wall, they are still visable as you cast a spell but duck behind just after you release. The 'bolt' will hit. Bombers won't they stop at the door.

Fact is bombers have no where near the delve of a bolt, if you want to compare them to anything they're a one hit theurg pet on a shorter timer if I remember right.

 

[Garok]

Ok but they (according to cats and Aborial spec) have greater damage than say spec nuke on runnie eld or wiz

219 compared to 225 on single

158 compared to 178 on AoE

So still far from rubbish...

 

[Maeloch]

fotm in NF will be fire wizzies, not animists.

Mael, 50th ment.

 

[Sycho]

fotm in NF will be fire wizzies, not animists.

Mael, 50th ment.

I hope not

Nice to see you in odins again yesterday maeloch.

 

[[Cinderella]]

rofl, lame fucks

is that the whole wordsupply remi has?

 

[Boggy]

Garok, you're missing a couple of very important things

Hits now inline with therg pets .. which can move ofc but change target like turrets

An animist CANNOT choose targets for his turret. They target randomly. They are just ask likely to nibble away at random tanks as hit someone worthwhile. Theurg pets are targeted.

Animist pets have a range of 1000. Theurg pets are 2000 (one of the longest range spells in the game).

Animist pets have a 5 second (yes, FIVE SECOND) cast time to place and take 3 secs to cast their own nuke. This means 8 secs before the first damage is applied. Theurg pets take 3 seconds to cast.

Neither can other (bolt) type spells

You missed the point of this completely, though I don't blame you. Animist spec nukes ARE NOT BOLTS. If they were, we'd have no problem. We'd see someone standing on a wall and nuke them. They woudl also have bolt range instead of our 1500 range.

Instead, our spec nukes are classes as PETS. This means we see someone on a wall, we cast. The pet tries to run through the gate and up the stairs. Sounds ludicrous doesn't it? Even more so when you think that the gates don't allow pet access, so any animist spec'd for nukes (90% of animists) have NONE of their specline abilities working in keep battles. All they get is their baseling lifetap, which is the worst lifetap in the game.

Yes but Shrooms are not just damage dealers there are also ablative ones BT ones etc have stacks of utility.

a) there is no such thing as a BT shroom

b) The ablative shroom sucks (check it's stats)

c) ALL shroom utility becomes worthless in NF because the shrooms have about 500 HP. ie, our whole "stack of utility" can be killed with one PBAoE.

I rolled a verdant spec'd one on excal it was fun to have alot of tools @ my disposial. But i can see your point in the fact that the class is only realy viable in RvR for static battles (ie keep takes mile gate defence etc) .... but .. they have a hell of alot of other stuff that makes them usefull in PvE.. pet spam, bt, abs buff, ablative buff, damage debuff etc which is more than can be said for alot of casters.

CURRENTLY they are much more viable in static battles. In NF the nerfs (not being able to place shrooms, not being able to use spec nukes, shrooms dying before they can cast a single spell) make us crap in static battles WITHOUT making us anymore viable in open field.

Dabbling with a verdant does nothing to show you how our class performs in RvR. I can understand if you don't have time to get a 50 and explore our class, but that being the case please listen to the people who know what they are talking about, or just go and check out our LRP on stats and dispell the myth that animists are uber.

 

[Maeloch]

I hope not

Nice to see you in odins again yesterday maeloch.

Hehe, you shoulda killed me, not sure I would've just left someone mezzed

Did bring out a couple more to find you but got bogged down in helping out with bled take. Oh well next time.

Mael, 50th ment.

 

[Garok]

Garok, you're missing a couple of very important things



An animist CANNOT choose targets for his turret. They target randomly. They are just ask likely to nibble away at random tanks as hit someone worthwhile. Theurg pets are targeted.

Animist pets have a range of 1000. Theurg pets are 2000 (one of the longest range spells in the game).

Animist pets have a 5 second (yes, FIVE SECOND) cast time to place and take 3 secs to cast their own nuke. This means 8 secs before the first damage is applied. Theurg pets take 3 seconds to cast.

You missed the point of this completely, though I don't blame you. Animist spec nukes ARE NOT BOLTS. If they were, we'd have no problem. We'd see someone standing on a wall and nuke them. They woudl also have bolt range instead of our 1500 range.

a) there is no such thing as a BT shroom

b) The ablative shroom sucks (check it's stats)

c) ALL shroom utility becomes worthless in NF because the shrooms have about 500 HP. ie, our whole "stack of utility" can be killed with one PBAoE.

Dabbling with a verdant does nothing to show you how our class performs in RvR. I can understand if you don't have time to get a 50 and explore our class, but that being the case please listen to the people who know what they are talking about, or just go and check out our LRP on stats and dispell the myth that animists are uber.

Ok all im trying to do is try to give you a balanced view from "the other side" .. on a side note pbaoe (and to some respect Aoe damage spell) are alot less common in Mid and Alb than they are Hib. But at the end of the day i fail to see why you guys seem to think your class will be @ the bottom of the pile in NF based on some whine threds by pre pubesant yank youths on the VN boards. Play NF then whine based on you experience not on what Randy Goldberg aged 13 1/2 says on Vn

 

[Bubble]

Waste of time to try and argue with someone that doesn't know what he's talking about, wouldn't you agree?

Yes, theres no point me talking to you anymore.