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Spot on, Foler !Originally posted by froler
hohoho.
i really enjoy the bitching you albs come up with, give me more!!
Bring it ON!!!
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old.Lianuchta
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Hmm, i remember the stick we got for raiding at 5am on a Sunday morning. Certain mids (Blej is the main one that sticks in mind) were ranting and raving how raids should only be allowed during primetime hours, and Mids would never sink so low etc etc. Guess not...
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Freia
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Re: Bah listen up
Lots of wrongly assumed stuff in this thread...
Make that a stupidly late time.
This is not entierly accurate, lets get it all straight:
There was an attempt at a relicraid around maybe 1:00 yes.
We gathered a mediocre force, went to Hadrians and were all slain by Albions at the mmg
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After that, most mids in that force went to emain for a little skirmishing/rp farming/just having a bit of fun,
and some logged off, but some of us still awake feared that the big alb force who wiped us in Hadrians
would have a go at raiding in our beloved land so a small number of mids went to odins for a bit of standing-guard-on-a-wall(tm).
As time went by and nothing happened, we were all getting bored and more and more said goodnight and logged for the night.
At that point, someone suggested that the few of us left (maybe 20 peeps) should try to gather some countrymen
and have another go at the relic just for fun and because our land seemed safe for the moment.
It was not until about 3:00 that we began spamming to try to gather enough people (no rams sorted yet at that point)
and infact most of the people that we asked to join us turned us down. We managed to gather maybe another 10 level 34-50 brave midgardian souls,
which made us all in all around 30.
Still, to be honest, our hopes on succeeding wern't high. But as we all know by know we did,
(much thanx to GREAT, impressively patient leadership, I must add!. We luub ya u big purple troll u )
So after having told you what really happened let me finally say this:
On behalf of us who pulled this off am sorry for having made made our realmmates upset. As for the others:
Who does not get upset when loosing a relic anyways?
But as you hopefully understand by now it was _not_ some elite 48+ s33kre7 dont-tell-the-n00b thing,
we actually did everything in our power to get every single 30-50 online to join us!
It was not a coward diabolicly planned sneak attack because we desperately wanted all the relics.
It was a small number of bored mids with nothing better to do (mids who I admit, though, were aching to get all relics back to the right place, hehe ).
For many of us it was our very first relic raid ever, and it was great fun and great much excitement and a good experience.
It would have been even more fun with a bit of resistance ofcourse (but not toooo much. hehe)
Hope I have set some records straight.
Oh, and yes I have a job. I was at work 11 this morning as I was the day before after having played until 6.
(that might explain if this post is hard to follow + spelling errors and such, have forgiveness)
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Freia - 40 Healer - Warders of the 7th Sigil - Midgård.
Lots of wrongly assumed stuff in this thread...
Make that a stupidly late time.
This is not entierly accurate, lets get it all straight:
There was an attempt at a relicraid around maybe 1:00 yes.
We gathered a mediocre force, went to Hadrians and were all slain by Albions at the mmg
)After that, most mids in that force went to emain for a little skirmishing/rp farming/just having a bit of fun,
and some logged off, but some of us still awake feared that the big alb force who wiped us in Hadrians
would have a go at raiding in our beloved land so a small number of mids went to odins for a bit of standing-guard-on-a-wall(tm).
As time went by and nothing happened, we were all getting bored and more and more said goodnight and logged for the night.
At that point, someone suggested that the few of us left (maybe 20 peeps) should try to gather some countrymen
and have another go at the relic just for fun and because our land seemed safe for the moment.
It was not until about 3:00 that we began spamming to try to gather enough people (no rams sorted yet at that point)
and infact most of the people that we asked to join us turned us down. We managed to gather maybe another 10 level 34-50 brave midgardian souls,
which made us all in all around 30.
Still, to be honest, our hopes on succeeding wern't high. But as we all know by know we did,
(much thanx to GREAT, impressively patient leadership, I must add!. We luub ya u big purple troll u
)So after having told you what really happened let me finally say this:
On behalf of us who pulled this off am sorry for having made made our realmmates upset. As for the others:
Who does not get upset when loosing a relic anyways?
But as you hopefully understand by now it was _not_ some elite 48+ s33kre7 dont-tell-the-n00b thing,
we actually did everything in our power to get every single 30-50 online to join us!
It was not a coward diabolicly planned sneak attack because we desperately wanted all the relics.
It was a small number of bored mids with nothing better to do (mids who I admit, though, were aching to get all relics back to the right place, hehe
).For many of us it was our very first relic raid ever, and it was great fun and great much excitement and a good experience.
It would have been even more fun with a bit of resistance ofcourse (but not toooo much. hehe)
Hope I have set some records straight.
Oh, and yes I have a job. I was at work 11 this morning as I was the day before after having played until 6.
(that might explain if this post is hard to follow + spelling errors and such, have forgiveness)
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Freia - 40 Healer - Warders of the 7th Sigil - Midgård.
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Derric
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Froler rocks!
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j000 d000d
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Tera, you say it very well, i couldnt of said it that good
GL with your bot hunts, mids.
GL with your bot hunts, mids.
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Originally posted by old.Bubble
Raiding at 8am on a sunday morning is crimal too
Only the Hibs have a little it of honor left
Sorry Bubble - you must have missed what happened before.....
I've said it before - any place, any time, anything goes.... my point before was that alot of people can't get involved if the raids are all at unsociable hours.......
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Azal
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ugh 5am what a crap time to do anything other than sleep sheesh
at least 9am or so is almost a reasonable hour, even if it means there's only 50 mids online that don't notice til a relic goes walkies
at least 9am or so is almost a reasonable hour, even if it means there's only 50 mids online that don't notice til a relic goes walkies
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old.Gombur Glodson
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nooo dont make more replies please
just look at the nice kitten as it waves goodbye to the thread slowly sinking down to the bottem
just look at the nice kitten as it waves goodbye to the thread slowly sinking down to the bottem
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the last raid we did was 10am
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Tera_Ferma
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Thanks for the intelligent response their Freia
Few things
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I awoke at about 9am this for me fixed the time of the attack at a stupidly early time.
Make that a stupidly late time.
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AM for me is early PM is late, that’s an opinion thing really.
As for the rest of what you said, its good to have it clearly set out for us all to see. Still it does seem you went purposely for the relic well after Albion as a whole had gone to sleep.
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It was not until about 3:00 that we began spamming to try to gather enough people (no rams sorted yet at that point)
and in fact most of the people that we asked to join us turned us down. We managed to gather maybe another 10 level 34-50 brave midgardian souls,
which made us all in all around 30.
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At the end of the day all you need to take a relic at this time is a strong enough force to kill the guards, which you had, especially if two keeps where down due to the hibs and you have good leadership (that is good leadership for pulling mindless drones), this does not distract from my original post which tries to get across the point that it makes the relics worthless, the RvR battles worthless and making a large scale effort worthless. I mean the total server population at 3 am is less than 500 and by the time you got the group together you probably had 1/3 the population of the server and about 1/50th of the entire population.
Wait until others can join you, yes you got a relic, but it really shows no skill in taking and no bravery as you claim these mid souls have. After all you can control the agro the guards have, they have no independent thought, you did not take the relic back from Albion you took it from a computer, that has to make you wonder surely.
The next point
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On behalf of us who pulled this off am sorry for having made made our realmmates upset. As for the others:
Who does not get upset when loosing a relic anyways?
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This is very true you can't help but feel a pang of disappointment at losing a relic. However there is losing a relic the way Mid did on Sunday and losing the relic the way we did on Tuesday morning. I'm sure you will agree its worse losing it the way Alb did with no chance to defend.
Ok, next
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But as you hopefully understand by now it was _not_ some elite 48+ s33kre7 dont-tell-the-n00b thing,
we actually did everything in our power to get every single 30-50 online to join us!
It was not a coward diabolicly planned sneak attack because we desperately wanted all the relics.
It was a small number of bored mids with nothing better to do (mids who I admit, though, were aching to get all relics back to the right place, hehe ).
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Aye I do see this, in fact it may shock you to hear I always did, I brought up that point simply because it had been mention elsewhere in the thread and fitted well with my point about allowing others to join in. You only need a force strong enough to kill the bots defending the keep, and you are right that level 35 + is all you really need with a good dam buff. Any misunderstand here I apologise for.
Next we have,
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For many of us it was our very first relic raid ever, and it was great fun and great much excitement and a good experience.
It would have been even more fun with a bit of resistance ofcourse (but not toooo much. hehe)
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Wonderful, I am sincerely glad you had fun doing this as after all that’s what the game is about and yes you are right in thinking it would have been fun with more involved. Of course you want to take the keep when there is little resistance, after all its very hard to take a defended keep, however here lies the real skill can you break down the doors and get a relic out before the defenders rally?
With luck people will actually listen to what we have discussed and think on all the points involved, who knows, people may actually find these post thought provoking and change there methods, rather than just go <hur hur im a dumb arse and don't get it so i'll flame you then go shag my cousin>
One last thing mate
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Oh, and yes I have a job. I was at work 11 this morning as I was the day before after having played until 6.
(that might explain if this post is hard to follow + spelling errors and such, have forgiveness)
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For such an intellegent response (especially for that level of lack of sleep) that was never in doubt <grins>
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As for your post in response Froler
Well done, I must congratulate you on showing yourself up as one of those people that doesn't read posts, you obviously just look at something longer than one sentence, get confused and go <hur hur I'm a dumb arse etc> (try reading this post). There was no bitching in this it was an appeal to hopefully make people understand the flaws in this tactic. Obviously it is lost on people like yourself that have the intellect of an omeba, so please in future don’t embarrass yourself anymore by replying to a post that is not just make of single syllable words and smilies. You are hereby nominated for Dumb Arse of the month, which if you win will place you in the running for Dumb Arse of the year, which in turn carries the honour of having a Ellyl sword rammed up your arse and you being paraded around Camelot to show young Albions how not to act. I wish you luck.
Tera Ferma
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Originally posted by Tera_Ferma
I awoke at about 9am this for me fixed the time of the attack at a stupidly early time.
Make that a stupidly late time.
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AM for me is early PM is late, that’s an opinion thing really.
As for the rest of what you said, its good to have it clearly set out for us all to see. Still it does seem you went purposely for the relic well after Albion as a whole had gone to sleep.
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It was not until about 3:00 that we began spamming to try to gather enough people (no rams sorted yet at that point)
and in fact most of the people that we asked to join us turned us down. We managed to gather maybe another 10 level 34-50 brave midgardian souls,
which made us all in all around 30.
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At the end of the day all you need to take a relic at this time is a strong enough force to kill the guards, which you had, especially if two keeps where down due to the hibs and you have good leadership (that is good leadership for pulling mindless drones), this does not distract from my original post which tries to get across the point that it makes the relics worthless, the RvR battles worthless and making a large scale effort worthless. I mean the total server population at 3 am is less than 500 and by the time you got the group together you probably had 1/3 the population of the server and about 1/50th of the entire population.
Wait until others can join you, yes you got a relic, but it really shows no skill in taking and no bravery as you claim these mid souls have. After all you can control the agro the guards have, they have no independent thought, you did not take the relic back from Albion you took it from a computer, that has to make you wonder surely.
The next point
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On behalf of us who pulled this off am sorry for having made made our realmmates upset. As for the others:
Who does not get upset when loosing a relic anyways?
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This is very true you can't help but feel a pang of disappointment at losing a relic. However there is losing a relic the way Mid did on Sunday and losing the relic the way we did on Tuesday morning. I'm sure you will agree its worse losing it the way Alb did with no chance to defend.
Ok, next
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But as you hopefully understand by now it was _not_ some elite 48+ s33kre7 dont-tell-the-n00b thing,
we actually did everything in our power to get every single 30-50 online to join us!
It was not a coward diabolicly planned sneak attack because we desperately wanted all the relics.
It was a small number of bored mids with nothing better to do (mids who I admit, though, were aching to get all relics back to the right place, hehe ).
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Aye I do see this, in fact it may shock you to hear I always did, I brought up that point simply because it had been mention elsewhere in the thread and fitted well with my point about allowing others to join in. You only need a force strong enough to kill the bots defending the keep, and you are right that level 35 + is all you really need with a good dam buff. Any misunderstand here I apologise for.
Next we have,
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For many of us it was our very first relic raid ever, and it was great fun and great much excitement and a good experience.
It would have been even more fun with a bit of resistance ofcourse (but not toooo much. hehe)
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Wonderful, I am sincerely glad you had fun doing this as after all that’s what the game is about and yes you are right in thinking it would have been fun with more involved. Of course you want to take the keep when there is little resistance, after all its very hard to take a defended keep, however here lies the real skill can you break down the doors and get a relic out before the defenders rally?
With luck people will actually listen to what we have discussed and think on all the points involved, who knows, people may actually find these post thought provoking and change there methods, rather than just go <hur hur im a dumb arse and don't get it so i'll flame you then go shag my cousin>
One last thing mate
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Oh, and yes I have a job. I was at work 11 this morning as I was the day before after having played until 6.
(that might explain if this post is hard to follow + spelling errors and such, have forgiveness)
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For such an intellegent response (especially for that level of lack of sleep) that was never in doubt <grins>
P.S.
As for your post in response Froler
Well done, I must congratulate you on showing yourself up as one of those people that doesn't read posts, you obviously just look at something longer than one sentence, get confused and go <hur hur I'm a dumb arse etc> (try reading this post). There was no bitching in this it was an appeal to hopefully make people understand the flaws in this tactic. Obviously it is lost on people like yourself that have the intellect of an omeba, so please in future don’t embarrass yourself anymore by replying to a post that is not just make of single syllable words and smilies. You are hereby nominated for Dumb Arse of the month, which if you win will place you in the running for Dumb Arse of the year, which in turn carries the honour of having a Ellyl sword rammed up your arse and you being paraded around Camelot to show young Albions how not to act. I wish you luck.
Tera Ferma
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old.Jadow
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<hands Tera a valium>
Some decent points in your post Tera but like.. let it die now eh? And you damaged the main thrust of your argument by freaking out on Froler
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Tera_Ferma
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<shrug> if you are going to flame, may as well do it properly.
Btw this is my first time to these boards so this post is all new to me.
Maybe its the 8 beers, how knows
<wanders off in a random direction taking to her earthy staff>
Btw this is my first time to these boards so this post is all new to me.
Maybe its the 8 beers, how knows
<wanders off in a random direction taking to her earthy staff>
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Damon_D
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Peopel have to be surpremly moronic to start threads like this
Nuff said
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froler
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hohoho. your correct.
ive heard these arguments too many times for reading them again.
this whole conversation is all bs.
and btw ; Bring on the Bitching!
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Thing is its a piece of piss to get 30 folk online early morning and take a relic, however as Tera has already said doing so makes RvR pointless and ultimately destroys that aspect of it. I dont really care too much about it because relics will change hands a lot soon, just that it undermines the gameplay somewhat. With such an underpopulated server it can only do more harm than good.
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Well, I think people are pissed off because in the past people (mainly Midgard, since they used to be the main relic holders) have talked about "honour" and all this "primetime politics" nonsense for relic raids and yet Midgard make a raid (organised or not) and capture a relic in the wee hours.
I really don't care when relics are taken. OF COURSE I'll be mad if Hibs lose their relics to a 5am raid, OF COURSE there won't be defence but this is how you play the game and more importantly these are fairly valid tactics (whether you like it or not) to raid at 5am or 5pm. You strike when you are least expected.
Anyhow, grats Mids ... Don't know if anyone else has the same feeling but I forsee a long, bloody battle over the next months and I doubt whether Midgard will be as spoiled as they used to be relic-wise now that Albion seem to have a real fire in their bellies.
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old.tuppe
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what difference is do raid at 5am?
when compare hibs and albs tacts attack same time to our relic keeps?! look like people forgot this.
its very enjoyable when our frontier is same time 200+ invader, and mids are online ~300, probably most are lvl40+?
even so famous US servers is 3-6am raids.
sad but true, relics has soon nothing meaning, dunno how other feels? sooner or later relic owner looses them, and circle goes round and round
when compare hibs and albs tacts attack same time to our relic keeps?! look like people forgot this.
its very enjoyable when our frontier is same time 200+ invader, and mids are online ~300, probably most are lvl40+?
even so famous US servers is 3-6am raids.
sad but true, relics has soon nothing meaning, dunno how other feels? sooner or later relic owner looses them, and circle goes round and round
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Will raids on the PvP server be the real thing?
Does this now mean that Excalibur and Prydwen are now fully RvE?
Is taking a relic early-morning style nothing more than:
"Oooh, guard spawned, pull."
- or -
"Careful, the door is L8, and we're sitting in an aggro zone"
- or -
"Hey, I never knew protect/amnesia/confusion was effective in PvP! Cool."
Gawd, I can't wait to start doing primetime raids with the Albs. Thank you to the Albs for Sunday night, where I had the best RvR action EVER with my Troll Warrior.
Early-morning-Mids ->
Rest of Midgard ->
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Does this now mean that Excalibur and Prydwen are now fully RvE?
Is taking a relic early-morning style nothing more than:
"Oooh, guard spawned, pull."
- or -
"Careful, the door is L8, and we're sitting in an aggro zone"
- or -
"Hey, I never knew protect/amnesia/confusion was effective in PvP! Cool."
Gawd, I can't wait to start doing primetime raids with the Albs. Thank you to the Albs for Sunday night, where I had the best RvR action EVER with my Troll Warrior.
Early-morning-Mids ->
Rest of Midgard ->
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It's quite simple really.
If you want the reckognition and respect from your enemies don't take it at 5m, don't take it at 9am.
If you don't care about those things and just want the relic back asap go 24/7 by all means.
If you want the reckognition and respect from your enemies don't take it at 5m, don't take it at 9am.
If you don't care about those things and just want the relic back asap go 24/7 by all means.
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old.mattshanes
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I totally agree surley there is some mids there too who thought it is lame taking it at 5am and some thought it was good but everyone loves a big battle
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old.Gombur Glodson
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not the one using a bad computer with a bad gfx card
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Azal
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Big battles kick arse
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Orin Askhammare
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This is great. I can now without any guilt whatsoever concentrate on xping to level 50. Cries about 100+ Albs in our frontier will happily get ignored, because I can count on them getting taken back within a short time anyways and it doesn't look like I'll ever be around to do any relic taking anyways
At least when I get some levels I might not get two shotted as much as I do now with my uber Thane hitpoints
At least when I get some levels I might not get two shotted as much as I do now with my uber Thane hitpoints
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Gef
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Ah well think of it this way, at least now we can go and have some more supremely excellent RvR taking it back again.
I have to say I much prefer taking relics to defending them. Tis always a nice sense of achievment.
In a way I can see why the Mids did what they did, it is very difficult to take a defended relic keep. Well done to the Hibs on defending yours on Monday. You need at least 3 times as many attackers as there are defenders to handle the guard spawn, keep defenders at bay AND hit the doors.
Teams that size are not easy to rally ..
Great job on Sunday though Albs most impressive.
I have to say I much prefer taking relics to defending them. Tis always a nice sense of achievment.
In a way I can see why the Mids did what they did, it is very difficult to take a defended relic keep. Well done to the Hibs on defending yours on Monday. You need at least 3 times as many attackers as there are defenders to handle the guard spawn, keep defenders at bay AND hit the doors.
Teams that size are not easy to rally ..
Great job on Sunday though Albs most impressive.
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Everyone remember a lot of mids leaving because they were bored?
Well, seems like they screw it for themselves, they shouldn't whine then :sleeping: :sleeping:
Well, seems like they screw it for themselves, they shouldn't whine then :sleeping: :sleeping:
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F**king midgard dole-scum. uke: uke: uke: uke: uke:
uke: uke: uke: uke: uke:
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Freia
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Ok this thread is getting old but there are still some things I would like to say.
First I would like to say that it's nice to see sensible people here Tera, and thanx alot for the compliments
To the point(s)...
First of all I do not see how the relics have lost their value like everyone sais. It still gives us our bonus doesnt it
And second, anyone in any realm can try to pull a thing like this off but im actually not so sure that all similar attempts at getting a relic would succeed.
Oh, and please take that as a challenge if you want
But remember we planned for like 1 minute, it went like this:
-So which relic will it be?
-The power relic in albion?
-Ok, lets get to work fellas!
This is one of the things that I obviously failed to make clear in my previous post. We were _not_ sure that there would be no resistance.
Yes we were lucky and noone saw our little train moving at healerspeed all the way thru the albion frontier lead by a big fat troll who really should have had a map.
The fact also remains that albs and hibs was having a big fight over benowyc not too much earlier
so there was quite some chance that forces would be in movement in albion. At least at the time we went off to get rams.
Again I must point out that we were not sure that there would be no defenders! And we did not have enough people to fight off 30+ Albions, and I'm pretty sure there were that many people online in Albion at that time..
Nah, that is good leadership for gathering people from all over midgard, for getting a bunch of newbies to sort 9 rams,
for having patience to yell all different kinds of orders to ppl who dont listen for 2 hours straight at that time of night.
That's the kinda things I was talking about
Yes it happened to turn out that way, noone saw us and thats why albs dont have that power relic anymore.
Like you stated: Its all about getting the doors down and getting the relic out before the defenders can rally and that is excatly what we did.
Granted, it took us a while to get people together (starting at around 3:00) and while doing this we were safely behind our frontier borders.
But once we moved out anybody had the chance to spot us and start gathering a force to try to stop us.
One or two well placed ae mezzes from the back at the right time could quite possibly have meant total middie wipeout.
I have often seen reports in the alliance chatline about spotted albions and hibs at 5 in the morning.
Dunno why others dont scout as much.
I also must add that I really do not see what the big deal about relicraids are, yes if they are on primetime, they are GREAT big battles with tons of people.
(<side note> unfortunately those battles are made close to unplayable to lots of us because of mythics incompetence
which almost upsets me more than loosing relics to a combined force of albs and hibs at 9 in the morning</side note>)
Anyways, the thing is that anyone can arrange a relicraid really.
It only takes alot of patience and some experience in raiding and some common social skills.
(Oh and also a 45+ level helps so that you dont con green to the people you are trying to command )
So instead of whining about that they could not join the raid (which, once again, noone kept them from doing in this case except maybe their bosses) people should start arranging some raiding on their own.
I think my point is that if they had been scouting more they wolud have had a chance to defend imo.
Just as big a chance to gather a force of ppl who were up that late as we had.
Blejsarus has pointed this out on several occations in threads similar to this one.
Also in the particular case this sunday there were two realms against one
and people were really beginning to get tired of repairing doors and running wood after the previous attacks this weekend.
So I'm not sure whats worse actually.
LOL. Right on
We can always hope
Cyas, and gl Terra. Looking forward to meeting you out in the battlefield. Oh, no wait, first let me get some levels on second thoughts )
First I would like to say that it's nice to see sensible people here Tera, and thanx alot for the compliments
To the point(s)...
First of all I do not see how the relics have lost their value like everyone sais. It still gives us our bonus doesnt it
And second, anyone in any realm can try to pull a thing like this off but im actually not so sure that all similar attempts at getting a relic would succeed.
Oh, and please take that as a challenge if you want
But remember we planned for like 1 minute, it went like this:
-So which relic will it be?
-The power relic in albion?
-Ok, lets get to work fellas!
This is one of the things that I obviously failed to make clear in my previous post. We were _not_ sure that there would be no resistance.
Yes we were lucky and noone saw our little train moving at healerspeed all the way thru the albion frontier lead by a big fat troll who really should have had a map.
The fact also remains that albs and hibs was having a big fight over benowyc not too much earlier
so there was quite some chance that forces would be in movement in albion. At least at the time we went off to get rams.
Again I must point out that we were not sure that there would be no defenders! And we did not have enough people to fight off 30+ Albions, and I'm pretty sure there were that many people online in Albion at that time..
Nah, that is good leadership for gathering people from all over midgard, for getting a bunch of newbies to sort 9 rams,
for having patience to yell all different kinds of orders to ppl who dont listen for 2 hours straight at that time of night.
That's the kinda things I was talking about
Yes it happened to turn out that way, noone saw us and thats why albs dont have that power relic anymore.
Like you stated: Its all about getting the doors down and getting the relic out before the defenders can rally and that is excatly what we did.
Granted, it took us a while to get people together (starting at around 3:00) and while doing this we were safely behind our frontier borders.
But once we moved out anybody had the chance to spot us and start gathering a force to try to stop us.
One or two well placed ae mezzes from the back at the right time could quite possibly have meant total middie wipeout.
I have often seen reports in the alliance chatline about spotted albions and hibs at 5 in the morning.
Dunno why others dont scout as much.
I also must add that I really do not see what the big deal about relicraids are, yes if they are on primetime, they are GREAT big battles with tons of people.
(<side note> unfortunately those battles are made close to unplayable to lots of us because of mythics incompetence
which almost upsets me more than loosing relics to a combined force of albs and hibs at 9 in the morning</side note>)
Anyways, the thing is that anyone can arrange a relicraid really.
It only takes alot of patience and some experience in raiding and some common social skills.
(Oh and also a 45+ level helps so that you dont con green to the people you are trying to command
)So instead of whining about that they could not join the raid (which, once again, noone kept them from doing in this case except maybe their bosses) people should start arranging some raiding on their own.
I think my point is that if they had been scouting more they wolud have had a chance to defend imo.
Just as big a chance to gather a force of ppl who were up that late as we had.
Blejsarus has pointed this out on several occations in threads similar to this one.
Also in the particular case this sunday there were two realms against one
and people were really beginning to get tired of repairing doors and running wood after the previous attacks this weekend.
So I'm not sure whats worse actually.
LOL. Right on
We can always hope
Cyas, and gl Terra. Looking forward to meeting you out in the battlefield. Oh, no wait, first let me get some levels on second thoughts
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Originally posted by Lanceloc
F**king midgard dole-scum.
Suck my tail-pipe
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old.Gombur Glodson
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Bye bye thread was nice knowing you dont hope to see you again