Grats Albs + Mids but mainly, grats Hibs

[sneakies]

Well, it's been an interesting weekend, with hibs having been under siege for what must be 36+hrs straight. Our defense peaked at around 70 people, but averaged no more than 40, and we was continually double teamed.

If we as a realm are gonna take one think away from this other than a new found disrespect for midgard, is the knowledge that even as an underpopulated realm, vastly out numbered, and completly outranked. It takes 3 fold our numbers to beat us.

However although it hasn't yet happened, im hoping for you to remove the relics from our keeps. This way we wont have to spend all evening every evening defending our keeps (who am i kidding, it'll still happen to spite us).

Either ways, it's been a complete fucking nightmare running around left right and centre in an attempt to fend of you both, and the piss poor quality of service we are currently dealing with hasn't helped our cause at all. However i've still managed to earn myself 30-35k worth of RP's on my now lvl 44 Eld (nibeld) so for me, its not a complete loss.

And if theres one thing i think Hibs have earnt from this, it should be the respect of both of our opposing realms for our continued percieverence in attempting to delay the inevitable. It hasn't been easy, but we've kept coming and coming against all odds...

Now i hope we can battle it out in a new frontier so that hibs can have the oppurtunity to do something other than defend.

Grats on your continued siege Albs/Mids, but most of all, grats to my fellow Hibs for fighting to the end and seeing it through... even though the circumstances were not very accomadating

 

[unforgiving]

yay! hooray for shroomz....

i'll give it to ya u can fight back quite good but in my eyes most keep/tower takes we lost to you caus of shroomz, but then again i spent more time picking on reinforcements than taking towers/keeps

 

[sneakies]

yay! hooray for shroomz....

i'll give it to ya u can fight back quite good but in my eyes most keep/tower takes we lost to you caus of shroomz, but then again i spent more time picking on reinforcements than taking towers/keeps

No need to cry, or flame here, was a polite post with no ill intent (unlike this one). Winning and still being sore about it

 

[Ginius]

You are right sneakies. You (all Hibs) realy earned my respect. I was wondering how long it will take that I find a posting here. I'm surprised that it is so nice to read.
:worthy:

 

[Deltaseal]

You defended yourselves good and been alot of fun for me personally

However it would have been less frustrating for everyone had the lagspikes not been there.. everytime a spike came which was every 5th min 10 mids went LD and just piled up from there (I know this affected every realm im just saying it would have been more fun )

Keep it up..oh and dont come to odins.. i do hate the snow is so bright ;P

 

[Tir]

The lag (and LD's that go with it) are something all 3 realms are fighting in and with and if anything favours the defending force. I salute those remaining on the servers though, i for one gave up.

I would also like to say, and rightfully so, that no matter which classes involved the hibs have done very well in NF, not always with lesser numbers in the field, but as an example of very cohesive realm that does the most with everything they have.

But, as a mid I have to say take your double-teaming complaints away. The pryd-mids did a superb job of defending the first few weeks of release and held it's own relics longer than most all the US servers. And we were well and truly double teamed. I might be wrong here but for both the relic gate openings I don't think hib or alb held all the keeps needed?

No, it's not great being on the receiving end, people get tired of constant defense and repair at all hours, of never leaving their own frontiers. It is however the nature of the game. Scroll back a pages, try a few of the 'suggestions' people made to the mids when we said the same as your first post. It hurt mid, as a realm, badly (along with some other factors), but we are trying to turn it around. I for one will not apologise to a hib for trying to take *exactly* the same opportunities as the hibs did!

See you on the battle fields.

 

[koxi]

Well, it's been an interesting weekend, with hibs having been under siege for what must be 36+hrs straight. Our defense peaked at around 70 people, but averaged no more than 40, and we was continually double teamed.

If we as a realm are gonna take one think away from this other than a new found disrespect for midgard, is the knowledge that even as an underpopulated realm, vastly out numbered, and completly outranked. It takes 3 fold our numbers to beat us.

However although it hasn't yet happened, im hoping for you to remove the relics from our keeps. This way we wont have to spend all evening every evening defending our keeps (who am i kidding, it'll still happen to spite us).

Either ways, it's been a complete fucking nightmare running around left right and centre in an attempt to fend of you both, and the piss poor quality of service we are currently dealing with hasn't helped our cause at all. However i've still managed to earn myself 30-35k worth of RP's on my now lvl 44 Eld (nibeld) so for me, its not a complete loss.

And if theres one thing i think Hibs have earnt from this, it should be the respect of both of our opposing realms for our continued percieverence in attempting to delay the inevitable. It hasn't been easy, but we've kept coming and coming against all odds...

Now i hope we can battle it out in a new frontier so that hibs can have the oppurtunity to do something other than defend.

Grats on your continued siege Albs/Mids, but most of all, grats to my fellow Hibs for fighting to the end and seeing it through... even though the circumstances were not very accomadating

Great respect to the Hib's defending.. no doubt.. but hey.. how did Midgaard loose their relics.. hmm.. think it was something about having both Alb's and Hib's raiding us for many hours.. then in the end Alb's raided one relic.. Hib's the other.. Exactly the same that could have happened to the Hib's this weekend.. but you managed to defend yourself.. we didn't.. This is NF i'm afraid.. for good and for bad..

 

[sneakies]

i managed to be absent for the whole of the first NF raids (was sitting in a little dungeon soloing up my nightshade which isnt of a whole lot of use lately). But either ways, therse now 2 realms thats knows what its like to be "duo'd" and the 3rd one will get its come uppance ;D

 

[Daedalus]

I must say that I was VERY impressed by you hibs. You guys did a great job at defending your relic(s)/realm, and, it's not that we defeated you with numbers, strenght or skill, or whatever, but in the end the realm of HIbernia simply succumbed to the ongoing pressure of the Albs and later on the mids, and I can't say I'd blame you. I'm very tired myself now, can only imagine what it's like to be under a constant siege for 36 hours.

I really enjoyed these massive fights, and I hope that we can return the same favor some time soon.

 

[Ticking]

numbers > all = just the way nf is

 

[sneakies]

I must say that I was VERY impressed by you hibs. You guys did a great job at defending your relic(s)/realm, and, it's not that we defeated you with numbers, strenght or skill, or whatever, but in the end the realm of HIbernia simply succumbed to the ongoing pressure of the Albs and later on the mids, and I can't say I'd blame you. I'm very tired myself now, can only imagine what it's like to be under a constant siege for 36 hours.

I really enjoyed these massive fights, and I hope that we can return the same favor some time soon.

alot of people will disagree about the numbers thing but im happy with the exp + rp's ive gained on my latest project and im definatly happy to see the back of at least one of the relics

 

[Belcar]

Yes, super defensive effort today Hibernia today, I /salute you.

 

[Belcar]

i managed to be absent for the whole of the first NF raids (was sitting in a little dungeon soloing up my nightshade which isnt of a whole lot of use lately). But either ways, therse now 2 realms thats knows what its like to be "duo'd" and the 3rd one will get its come uppance ;D

PS) All 3 realms have been "duo'd" already. Several times.

It's the nature of a three-sided war, and not much we can do unless you want a 4th realm introduced.

 

[Daedalus]

alot of people will disagree about the numbers thing but im happy with the exp + rp's ive gained on my latest project and im definatly happy to see the back of at least one of the relics

Aye, I know. It's not so much that numbers don't mean a thing.. Of course numbers can be the break-through factor, but the same goes for skill, effort, etc.

There were less hibs defending than Albs raiding, yet they did manage to keep us off for 36 hours. That got to say something about the influence of numbers, doesn't it?

I don't think that this game relies solely on numbers. It's a factor, and it may be a divining one if the other factors are lowly represented, but this time it didn't. Not as much as in raw power*numers vs power*numbers.

Of course, the numbers DO have a psychological effect, as well as it allowed us to "refresh" our people (people could've come & go a lot, and still maintain about the same crew number). Although I'm not sure if it did. I've only seen a handful of people that I've only seen at the end of the raid and not at the beginning.

Ah well.. it's just too complicated and I'm too tired to think about it.. maybe tomorrow.

 

[Evul]

yay! hooray for shroomz....

i'll give it to ya u can fight back quite good but in my eyes most keep/tower takes we lost to you caus of shroomz, but then again i spent more time picking on reinforcements than taking towers/keeps

Yes, we got Shrooms you got Reaver Bombs (Nerfed now still effective tho) imo Reaver Bombs > Shrooms in Attacking a Tower/Keep

 

[Frozenheart]

Good work all ..... was a good night had by all .... although i did say in /gu ... we get all the relics at some point there will be no pve until they are taken back ... so i for one am glad just to have our own relic back

Nice defence Hibs, was a well defended fight by yourselves

 

[Lejemorder]

what i found most fun was all the stupid whine from the yanks about how hard 1.70 was for underpopulated realms and 1.71 was much better, and what happen we lose our first relic and i doubt both mids and hibs dont see an alb relic for a very long time yes this is whine, but sad is alb got the same numbers as hibs and mids together.

what will happen next? alb prolly get mid str relic too and then either mid will get it back or hibs get it, if mids get it, it will be albs power relics there go next, i do think at some point relics will find its original owners often and therefor only been betwen none and 10% bonuses to realms.

/edit: and please albs take mids str relic so we can go to your frontiers with mids and we can give alittle payback ^^

 

[VidX]

lol respect for Mids? yeah right, stupid eejits.

Now they will face the Alb population with +20% power and, due to Mids insisting on trying to take their str relic back instead of their power, Albs will have +20% str before the end of the week as well.

well played brainiacs!

 

[Andrilyn]

Much respect to the Hibbies indeed for keeping up the fight that lasted basically the entire weekend.
Already thought Hibs would lose their relic but I thought Mids would be the one taking them instead of us seeing as they had already made many attempts after getting Crimthain.

Had alot of good fights at Ailline area from where those towers changed hands basically every 5 minutes at one point and I enjoyed those fights alot.
Only really a shame that there was so many lag as at one point 6 out of the 8 group members went Link Death all at the same time.
Basically knew we would get the Relic once we had Ailline's first door down and there was still no sign of any Hib, which in their turn I guess used every Hib there was to defend Scarthaig against the mids.

When we sailed the relic back we nearly lost it against a very high Realm Rank Hib group which basically scared me alot seeing they instantly targetted our relic carrier (Erodafira) and almost nuked my DI down in those nukes but in the end we did manage to get away from them when we entered the Ocean area.
Now we got both our relics where they belong

 

[Tuorin]

Much respect to the Hibbies indeed for keeping up the fight that lasted basically the entire weekend.

When we sailed the relic back we nearly lost it against a very high Realm Rank Hib group which basically scared me alot seeing they instantly targetted our relic carrier (Erodafira) and almost nuked my DI down in those nukes but in the end we did manage to get away from them when we entered the Ocean area.
Now we got both our relics where they belong

Your boat turned from impulse to warp power.

 

[Rudor Dwarf]

lol respect for Mids? yeah right, stupid eejits.

Now they will face the Alb population with +20% power and, due to Mids insisting on trying to take their str relic back instead of their power, Albs will have +20% str before the end of the week as well.

well played brainiacs!

The fact remains that you did not deffend alb str relic in the end.
And that move wasent very smart i think (not only bcoz i am a mid and i want my relic back).
That move made that the war will still be in hib as mid still want the relic back and i do think alb want that relic aswell.

I dont know you mebbe was so outnumbered vs the albs that you had no chanse there but i do think that the hibs that was at scat could last very long vs the alb, when we rushed in in scat it didnt take long b4 twf + shrooms + enchanter pbae killed most of the mids.

All in all very good deffending hibs you might be biter atm bcoz you lost one but you faced 2 enemy and i think you did wrong to deffend the mid one.

 

[VidX]

Much respect to the Hibbies indeed for keeping up the fight that lasted basically the entire weekend.
Already thought Hibs would lose their relic but I thought Mids would be the one taking them instead of us seeing as they had already made many attempts after getting Crimthain.

Had alot of good fights at Ailline area from where those towers changed hands basically every 5 minutes at one point and I enjoyed those fights alot.
Only really a shame that there was so many lag as at one point 6 out of the 8 group members went Link Death all at the same time.
Basically knew we would get the Relic once we had Ailline's first door down and there was still no sign of any Hib, which in their turn I guess used every Hib there was to defend Scarthaig against the mids.

When we sailed the relic back we nearly lost it against a very high Realm Rank Hib group which basically scared me alot seeing they instantly targetted our relic carrier (Erodafira) and almost nuked my DI down in those nukes but in the end we did manage to get away from them when we entered the Ocean area.
Now we got both our relics where they belong

Yeah, was like "Oh, boat!" <click> <click> Ah! there's Erodar! DD, DD, DD feck, that's a fast boat...

We arrived at the Milegate about 20 seconds behind you.

 

[Elendar]

lol respect for Mids? yeah right, stupid eejits.

Now they will face the Alb population with +20% power and, due to Mids insisting on trying to take their str relic back instead of their power, Albs will have +20% str before the end of the week as well.

well played brainiacs!

your choice to let them take str relic rather than us take str relic then start concentrating on albs for our power

 

[VidX]

The fact remains that you did not deffend alb str relic in the end.
And that move wasent very smart i think (not only bcoz i am a mid and i want my relic back).
That move made that the war will still be in hib as mid still want the relic back and i do think alb want that relic aswell.

I dont know you mebbe was so outnumbered vs the albs that you had no chanse there but i do think that the hibs that was at scat could last very long vs the alb, when we rushed in in scat it didnt take long b4 twf + shrooms + enchanter pbae killed most of the mids.

All in all very good deffending hibs you might be biter atm bcoz you lost one but you faced 2 enemy and i think you did wrong to deffend the mid one.

80 Albs on ailinne, with the keep surrounded, with multiple stealthers inside the keep picking off any defenders. Any Hib trying to get in are speedwarped and mezzed at bolt range then picked off, that's if they get past the high RR group at Ligen.

With 67 Mids reported at Scath on guard spam, and multiple trebs taking out the wall and the central keep.

Now, at this time, /bg count shows 63, there was no way we could have defended both keeps successfully, and at the end of the day, it was easier to defend against the Mids than it was against the Albs with the multiple Reaver bombs.

That, and there was only actually 3 full Hib groups, the rest stealthers and unbalanced groups.

Choice between losing 1 keep or losing 2, easy decision, take the easier defence. What would you have done when outnumbered at both keeps and fully aware of what Albs can do when attacking a keep?

 

[Rudor Dwarf]

As a mid i would QQ and go to bed and blame the shrooms .

Naa you prolly did the right then i didnt know how many albs it was around etc.

 

[VidX]

your choice to let them take str relic rather than us take str relic then start concentrating on albs for our power

And I fire back at you:

Your choice to initiate the attack forcing us to choose what relic to lose.

And then you can reply:

But it was your choice to take our Str relic in the first place.

And then I can reply.... Should I go on?

Mids should have looked at the bigger picture before deciding to hit Hib at the same time as the Albs, now there's a very good chance that Albs could end up with all the relics.

But, it's a game, let's see what tomorrow brings.

 

[Rudor Dwarf]

But it would still be better for you if it went the other way around .

 

[VidX]

But it would still be better for you if it went the other way around .

Nope, Mids would have 1 relic to defend, in a relic shrine.

Whereas now, Albs have 2 relics in relic shrines, and 2 in normal keeps, so can possibily be put in the same position as we were put in this weekend.

 

[Rudor Dwarf]

Usp..
The only thing that would have happen if we attacked the albs would have been they left your realm and no relic would have been moved.

I dont think we as mids can take the relic from hibs without help from albs.
Only way we can win over deffending hibs is if we outnumber em with big numbers and that aint happening on prydwen as we are about same numbers.

And well attack albs and you shall be happy if you even get trebs up on mainkeep :>.

 

[Rudor Dwarf]

Nope, Mids would have 1 relic to defend, in a relic shrine.

Whereas now, Albs have 2 relics in relic shrines, and 2 in normal keeps, so can possibily be put in the same position as we were put in this weekend.

Yes but it can still be way more backfire on you as alb might think what the fuck lets grab hibs last relic and then mid will see the chanse again to get the str relic home.
But mid is in a good position now aswell wherever we go we will prolly have another realm with us :>.