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Boggy

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Tristessa said:
Well perhaps you have a point, but we'll just have to see if this new trend is going to be copied and used by the rest of the animists. Could you blame albs for complaining about something so lame as animist-window spam? People can blame mythic about LoS etc etc etc but in the end it's the animist's choice to abuse it and put em up there.

And believe me they cast rather well from that spot

The trouble with blaming shrooms and making statements about shrooms is that it's hard for the enemy to tell exactly which shrooms are doing what.

I don't know the truth of this for sure either, but to clarify your position, are you claiming:

1) All shrooms in windows are unkillable?

2) You know for certain a shroom attacked you from a height variance of more than 250 units (about head height)?

The reason I am sceptical is that if shrooms were unkillable in windows and yet nuked out, Hib would eventually get to a point where we never lost a keep battle because nothing would ever be able to approach a hole or door.
 

Tristessa

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Boggy said:
The trouble with blaming shrooms and making statements about shrooms is that it's hard for the enemy to tell exactly which shrooms are doing what.

I don't know the truth of this for sure either, but to clarify your position, are you claiming:

1) All shrooms in windows are unkillable?

2) You know for certain a shroom attacked you from a height variance of more than 250 units (about head height)?

The reason I am sceptical is that if shrooms were unkillable in windows and yet nuked out, Hib would eventually get to a point where we never lost a keep battle because nothing would ever be able to approach a hole or door.

The shrooms were being stacked in the little windows at head height that are next to the keep's inner gate, in the sections beneath the side oil cauldrons. They couldnt be attacked and because of their mesh, it was almost impossible to click on any of the hibs that were inside the room behind them (And ofc no, nearest enemy didnt work)
 

Boggy

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Septina said:
Great work taking what i type far too serious.
Im not saying animist pets are supposed to be unkillable, the way most animists place em makes em unkillable (bugg exploiting r0x) and then ppl have the stomach to come here and whine that something that is overpowered but not even close to exploiting is lame.
Really, bravo :clap:

So you're saying I should not take your posts seriously? That would be fine by me. Would be great if you could put it in your sig so others also know that you're apparently sincere claims are just intended to be ignored.

BTW, you've done exactly the same thing in THIS post. Claiming that most animist place shrooms in unkillable places is again a lie or just ignorant. I have no way of telling which places will make a shroom untargetable and don't try to find them either. The vast majority of shrooms will be in perfectly killable locations - meaning that you dwelling on the unkillable ones is as I said bending the truth and warping the discussion pointlessly.
 

Alyssania

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Well think it might be better again to discuss about shrooms and animists who put em in locations where they cant be targetted at some other place. :)

Well done albs. :clap: Too shame I have to get to sleep early on saturdays for the 4am wakeup for work others I would have been there with my as much overpowered petspammer theurg as animists. ;)
 

Vladamir

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Weep in a greater amount guys, makes it that much sweeter :)
 

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Boggy said:
So you're saying I should not take your posts seriously? That would be fine by me. Would be great if you could put it in your sig so others also know that you're apparently sincere claims are just intended to be ignored.

BTW, you've done exactly the same thing in THIS post. Claiming that most animist place shrooms in unkillable places is again a lie or just ignorant. I have no way of telling which places will make a shroom untargetable and don't try to find them either. The vast majority of shrooms will be in perfectly killable locations - meaning that you dwelling on the unkillable ones is as I said bending the truth and warping the discussion pointlessly.


Its quite pointless to even try and discuss this with you since you're playing with the shrooms and not against em so ofc they're not overpowered.
Im sure EVERYONE doesnt place shrooms on places that make em almost impossible to target.
The fact remains tho that the los is so incredibly fucked in keeps that it really doesnt matter where you place the shrooms.
In the courtyard infront of the door, you run up to it try melee it or try to cc them from a distance.
99% of the time you will get 'You cannot see your target from here' 'Your target is not in view'.
My point with all of this is that i dont think hibs should whine about albs having something overpowered in keep/tower sieges when they have something like this themselves :)
 

Boggy

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Maybe you should try saying what you mean then instead of all the other stuff?

Inaccurate things constantly posted by you and other Albs include:

- Many Hibs bring animists to keep defenses
- Most animists try to exploit geometry bugs
- Animists are overpowered
- Shrooms kill zergs

When the truth is:

- Relatively few Hibs play animists in RvR.
- Animists cannot tell when an geometry bug is occuring
- Animists are underpowered in as many situations as they are overpowered
- You need a large number of animists (much larger than we actually have) to make make a real impact on a zerg.

If you stop keep repeating the inaccurate stuff, I'll stop correcting you. But I'm not gonna watch you spread misinformation about my class just because every time you see a shroom stack at a keep you equate it with 10 animists and everytime you get the geometry bug it wipes all the times you didn't get it from your memory.

As far as reavers and theurgs go, maybe the complaints against them are unjustified too. It's hard to tell when noone is prepared to be honest. Reavers certainly seem to have an ability that is overpowered not just in keeps but in almost every situation.
 

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There are 348 animists in Hib/Pryd

Stop pling with them and bring them to keep defences instead? :eek:
 

Awarkle

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i never stick shrooms in windows its just incredibly bad on the part of the defending peeps.

Even if you cant target them it makes targetting outside the windows damn difficult. So you can scratch awarkle off your geometry abusing animists list ;)

anywho well done i suppose i was in bed so was probbly most of hibernia :D (got job interview on monday to the other realms who dont know :D )
 

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xxManiacxx said:
There are 348 animists in Hib/Pryd

Stop pling with them and bring them to keep defences instead? :eek:

And like how many hunters, 800 or smth?

Stop pling them and bring them to keep attacks - could one-shot all doors with fools bow!

Grats albs well done!
 

Ovi1

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xxManiacxx said:
There are 348 animists in Hib/Pryd

Stop pling with them and bring them to keep defences instead? :eek:

It's a game, why should we have to bring a class that is an absolute nightmare to play?

Hats off to those that play Animists regularly, I can honestly say my Animist is a nightmare to play in RvR, and since all the nerfs isn't much better in PvE.

The fact that we only get 10 Animists from those 348 should be a clue that they are not fun to play, or anywhere near as overpowered as you think :p

Nice to see Septina give proof (s)he is "completely retarded", since Animists whines have been around way before Reaver Bombs were invented ;)
 

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Ovi1 said:
Nice to see Septina give proof (s)he is "completely retarded", since Animists whines have been around way before Reaver Bombs were invented ;)

I was talking about this thread, not in general ;)
 

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Edlina said:
And like how many hunters, 800 or smth?

Stop pling them and bring them to keep attacks - could one-shot all doors with fools bow!

Grats albs well done!

Actually 209 hunters :) The non-shocker was 301 necros. Thought there were more tbh :p
 

Etzel

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Boggy said:
DAoC has become decidedly hard work for Hibs. Albs have the numbers to put 2-3fg on us all day long, then when the main forces come online prime time we get regularly huge forces on us every evening going on into the night. Every night.

If you're an Alb you can come or not, cos there will still be the numbers. If you're a Hib you have to be there every night defending. It's been getting more like work every day and it is just a shame that all that hard work inevitably has to fall to something as mundane as numeric imbalances.

We held out as long as we could but now the school holidays have started, it's gonna be even harder. Not that I expect Albion to stop trying t dominate, but I guess I just feel there'd be more glory in it if it was less about everyone rolling an Alb in the first place.

Welcome to the club! Mids had exactly the same thing from release day until we lost our relics. (this post looks remarkably like our one actually :p )

Of course the main difference is that you still have 3 relics to defend, whilst mids like myself are able to play when we feel like and enjoy the xmas spirit
:cheers: :drink:
 

Isletha

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Grats albs i could see it comming as hibs at the start didnt seem to give a shit well the one's on my CRAP /as i must have asked 8 times who has /bg and pm'ed peeps to find who had /bg must be my luck who i asked as none new so went to bed :cheers:
 

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Isletha said:
Grats albs i could see it comming as hibs at the start didnt seem to give a shit well the one's on my CRAP /as i must have asked 8 times who has /bg and pm'ed peeps to find who had /bg must be my luck who i asked as none new so went to bed :cheers:

try "/who BG" next time, and join the one in the frontiers?
 

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Etzel said:
Welcome to the club! Mids had exactly the same thing from release day until we lost our relics. (this post looks remarkably like our one actually :p )

Of course the main difference is that you still have 3 relics to defend, whilst mids like myself are able to play when we feel like and enjoy the xmas spirit
:cheers: :drink:

Shrug hib as been like that for 3 years, doesn't bother me it's like this again, it has always been that way...

Yet the amount mids managed to whine after having 2-3 weeks of the same pressure hibs've had for 3 years ><
 

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Edlina said:
Shrug hib as been like that for 3 years, doesn't bother me it's like this again, it has always been that way...

Yet the amount mids managed to whine after having 2-3 weeks of the same pressure hibs've had for 3 years ><

its hardly the same pressure, taking a OF keep back is pisseasy compared to now...
 

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Edlina said:
Shrug hib as been like that for 3 years, doesn't bother me it's like this again, it has always been that way... Yet the amount mids managed to whine after having 2-3 weeks of the same pressure hibs've had for 3 years ><

Well, NF is not like the previous 3 years. At least I find that the keep-sieging/defending takes way longer than in OF. I´m pretty sure you find it the same. =)

But I´m sure you´ve had to walk the 2000 miles to scheool aswell, naked in the blizzard, and your daddy beat you to death every morning, while living on the highroad in a paper box eating cold rubble. :p

/j
 

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Gratz to Albion (Yay me!) and a very big thank you to Graendel for superb leadership and dedication on this victory.

As for Boggys comment about how the animist pets didn't stop the raid so no QQ about them, maybe so but there was an alot of Alb deaths at that point and I have seen that kind of thing before where a whole alb zerg has died on those stairs by animists. Oh and comparing Theurgist pets with Animist pets.....nice comparison!! I can see all the pet AE a zerg around a tight corner.... :m00:
 

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grats albs . :clap:

that was a long raid.sombody said 8th hour. no its much more.we started takeing towers and anoying the hibs far before.only problem is they have a summon zerg ability and always outnumbered us before.

to the hibs: we win this fight with the numbers.

mids you can thiking about what you doing if you want some relic.you are absoluitly dont know what you need to do in keep war.you got the chance here but you not used it.
 

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Steveh said:
mids you can thiking about what you doing if you want some relic.you are absoluitly dont know what you need to do in keep war.you got the chance here but you not used it.

Not sure if we´re that interested right now actually. =)

Was fun last night though, had some hibs quite surprised there after they took the tower first time. :p

/j
 

Azathrim

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I find the logic displayed in this thread amusing:

Albs do a RR on Hibs
Hibs lose the relics
Ergo, Animists are overpowered

Uhm yeah... That's blindfolded Alb logic in a nutshell.

Shall we try this one instead?

Albs have 45% of last weeks total RP on Prydwen
Albs successfully performs RR's
Ergo, Albs are overpowered and needs a nerf

<shrug> Perhaps that conclusion is just as flawed as the previous one. But, the matter of fact remains: Albs have 45% of the last weeks total RP and unless Hibs and Mids starts working together this won't change.
 

Isletha

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Cazedy said:
try "/who BG" next time, and join the one in the frontiers?

Ya thx think i have played for to long long now for a silly replay like that at the time i was playing i did /bg about 5 time only one i could see was in thid :twak:
 

Eladamri

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grats to the albs for a welldone RR, less QQing from hibs less reQQing about anis :(
 

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