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old.Tohtori

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Nausilus^^ said:
I haven't met an intelligent person yet who started an unprovoked fight yet, and I sure hope intelligent ppl don't act that stupid. 22 years here, and I haven't started a fight, nor gotten myself into one, and I intend to keep it that way. :)

Maybe violence sorts the ranks in the street gang environments, but if a person need violence to support his/her feelings/arguments/opinions or whatever I don't think that person is straight in the head.


"sane" person + alcohol = fight...somtimes.

Simple as that. No matter who you are. If you have power, you use it. Give anyone enough power and they'll abuse it.

If you're a hulk sized mofo who can kick anyone from here to kingdom come and tell me you haven't once used your "powers" for personal gain or "evil"..or just for the heck of it...i won't believe you :p

On the street, you have to ofcourse fight to show you have power, just so noone will f*ck you up.
 

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old.Tohtori said:
"sane" person + alcohol = fight...somtimes.

Simple as that. No matter who you are. If you have power, you use it. Give anyone enough power and they'll abuse it.

If you're a hulk sized mofo who can kick anyone from here to kingdom come and tell me you haven't once used your "powers" for personal gain or "evil"..or just for the heck of it...i won't believe you :p

On the street, you have to ofcourse fight to show you have power, just so noone will f*ck you up.

even though im only 5'8" im pretty stocky, and i've been told the way i used to act could come across as intimidating, but i will stand with my hand on my heart and say i have never used intimidation, threats or violence to empower me in any way over another human being.

I use comedy

*puts on false glasses, moustache and cigar*

Ahchachachacha!! ;)

no, seriously, i really never have, and i never will...
 

old.Tohtori

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Rediknight said:
even though im only 5'8" im pretty stocky, and i've been told the way i used to act could come across as intimidating, but i will stand with my hand on my heart and say i have never used intimidation, threats or violence to empower me in any way over another human being.

I use comedy

*puts on false glasses, moustache and cigar*

Ahchachachacha!! ;)

no, seriously, i really never have, and i never will...

This is where the gray area begins. Maybe you have, but haven't noticed?

What on earth do i mean?

Well, psychos...not you that is...don't think their doing anything wrong usually. You -might- have told someone, who thought they were gonna get their ass kicked, to sit down, ask for coffee (politely) and so forth.

Can't really say, when you're(or were) an intimidating guy, if you're intimidating people in doing thy biddding or not. Even asking a simple favor might have been seen as a warning to the person.

If you catch my undercurrent :p
 

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learn martial arts :) and u find the areas you can hit which will drop a man with one shot.

I got to dark-blue belt in ju Jitsu about 10 years ago and recently some one tried it on with me outside our local pub.

He was bigger than me and had a couple of mate's egging him on, so after he threw the first punch i drop kicked him in the nuts. He went down like a sack of potatoes and his friends where so shocked that they didn't try any thing.

There are more vital areas around the body, which 1 hit can incapcitate.

Strangely enought it was the only time i got into a fight after learning martial arts.
 

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Drunken brawling is easy. Grab them by the top of the shirt (near the neck) with your left hand, then every punch you throw with your right will connect with their face or head due to the way your body is postitioned :D

Try it on younger brother/dad/uncle/best mate etc.
 

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ffs tao, that sucks :(

hope you're ok and get better soon!
 

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Mmmkay some hillbillies?? Send 'em down here and me + me master Yoda will take 'em down for ya'.

Be well and stay out of trouble, run if outnumbered and dont beat people if your on the other side.. Else for revenge buy a baseballbat and go from door to door to beat them back.. :p
 

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Lestat said:
Mmmkay some hillbillies?? Send 'em down here and me + me master Yoda will take 'em down for ya'.

Be well and stay out of trouble, run if outnumbered and dont beat people if your on the other side.. Else for revenge buy a baseballbat and go from door to door to beat them back.. :p

"Did you post on MoviePoopshoot.com, 'Fuck Jay and Silent bob, fuck them in their stupid asses'?"

how many people wanna kick some arse?

:twak:
 

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i got beaten up once in my adult life and it was by my (at the time) bf all because i'd just done a 12 hour shift at work and wouldnt go to the pub with him cos i was knackered,

he came home and i knew what was coming he'd never hit me b4 but i've grown up in a violent childhood and saw the signs, it still came as a shock and aside from thinking ow that hurt the other thought going through my mind was i cant believe this is happening to me, However....

even though he got the 1st few punches in i was so furious i got him a good'un and poked him in the eyes (had about 1 inch long nails at the time) which shut him up managed to get him a few more blows but he got me back as soon as i could i legged it and called the police, he was arrested and went to court.



One bit of advice, where possible always press charges, the coppers were excellent (none of thei shit you see on the soaps about them taking the bad guys side) and you have to think if he does it again will the next person be so lucky to escape??
 

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Adoctor said:
i detest men who hit women...thats just low. :twak:

What about women who hit men?

Classic thing: Woman smacks a guy, but the guy can't do squat 'cause he would be neutered for hitting a woman.

Ofcourse when a guy just kicks the crap out of a woman who can't do anything, it's wrong and i personally would never, even when hit, strike a woman back.

But we have to take into consideration things with these, not all is black and white.

Again, not talking about Eq's experience. Guy starting a fight with a woman is bad, but defending against a woman is as bad as fighting against another guy.
 

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old.Tohtori said:
What about women who hit men?

Classic thing: Woman smacks a guy, but the guy can't do squat 'cause he would be neutered for hitting a woman.

Ofcourse when a guy just kicks the crap out of a woman who can't do anything, it's wrong and i personally would never, even when hit, strike a woman back.

But we have to take into consideration things with these, not all is black and white.

Again, not talking about Eq's experience. Guy starting a fight with a woman is bad, but defending against a woman is as bad as fighting against another guy.


You can "detain" a women (well one who is not the size of Jeff Capes) with out hitting them.
 

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Adoctor said:
You can "detain" a women (well one who is not the size of Jeff Capes) with out hitting them.

It's not that simple anymore. Women have black belts, not bell dresses, women bodybuild instead of cooking and all men arn't the preverbial equivalance to "warriors".

Lines are blurred and i bet anyone of us, no matter how uncomfortable that may be to our "testosterone", get our ass kicked by women these days.

Which is all good, as long as we remember it when judging a fight between men and women.
 

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old.Tohtori said:
It's not that simple anymore. Women have black belts, not bell dresses, women bodybuild instead of cooking and all men arn't the preverbial equivalance to "warriors".

Lines are blurred and i bet anyone of us, no matter how uncomfortable that may be to our "testosterone", get our ass kicked by women these days.

Which is all good, as long as we remember it when judging a fight between men and women.

its that tranvestite's bar you goto, their not really women hence they're so strong!

nah but in all fairness teh seal does have a point with what he's saying
 

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Its not hitting women thats wrong - its hitting defensless people. Be they women, small men, children, animals, outnumbered etc. Ofc, if its in selfdefense its another thing, but you should never use more force than needed. I have no problem with a man slapping a women once if she attacks him, or throw her to the ground etc. Same thing if some drunken idiot attacks you when you do have friends around you. Just dont keep hitting someone after the attack has stoped.

Ive never had to actually fight myself, but ive averted a couple fights between other people. Probably because i dont drink, and im seldom at places where people do drink. Alcohol is behind most random violence id say.

That beeing said i was overcome with a powerful desire to hurt two guys that beat up my brother a few years back. He is a small guy, doesnt do any sports and isnt violent at all - they simply attacked him because he is an anti-facists and they were neonazis. Got to my senses before i did anthing rash though, and we got the satisfaction of seeing them convicted in court for what they had done.

Hope you recover fully and speedily from the beating you took
 

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old.Tohtori said:
What about women who hit men?

Classic thing: Woman smacks a guy, but the guy can't do squat 'cause he would be neutered for hitting a woman.

I hate the double standard of guys who refuse to hit women... Personally i reuse to hit anyone unless i have no choice, at that point, man, woman, child or artichoke I will do everything in my power to take them out. Personally i'd prefer to incapacitate them without hurting them (was in a club once and saw some big guy hit a guy in a cloak room queue, so i quickly rushed up behind him and wrapped my arms round him and locked my hands together [whilst moving my head to the side of his to protect against headbutts] and quietly told him he was out of order and should leave the club immediately - and he did ;) )

But yeah, if a woman decided to take a pop at me, she's fair game.
 

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old.Tohtori said:
Is it a doublestandard if i don't hit...period :p

not at all, in fact i've not actually hit anyone in anger since i was about 12 years old (and i've taken more than my fair share of beatings since then) i just wouldn't ever not hit a woman just because she was a woman.
 

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If a splitarse started raining punches on me, i wouldnt think twice about putting her on her arse.
 

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tbh i feel sorry for the people that beat you up, and I feel for you ofc. Sorry to hear it was you.

My mate got beat up by some boys while walking home a week ago, he's 18 and he won't leave the house anymore cos he thinks he's gonna get beat up - and there was no reason why he got beat up, just wrong place wrong time.

The reason I feel for the people that beat you up is, they have to do something like that just to get noticed, and it is for attention - Sad isn't it but it's true. and the reason there in groups like that is because it makes them feel safe and "hard". When there alone there insecure and unsafe. They normally have had a bad upbringing so they feel the need to do this.

And if you don't think they do it for attention, then your looking at the evidence right now. They got there own post on a big forum, grats to them.

They shouldn't be shot, they should be listened too.
 

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Some ace comments regarding the hitting a woman thing, IMO if you hit anyone you give up your right not to be hit. As soon as you use use violence then you make a statement that u think it's acceptable and like others have said you are fair game, tit's or not.

Spose some ppl think the iraqi's wud be out of order tryin to shoot those female marines who are trying to blow them up? :p
 

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Fana said:
Its not hitting women thats wrong - its hitting defensless people. Be they women, small men, children, animals, outnumbered etc. Ofc, if its in selfdefense its another thing, but you should never use more force than needed. I have no problem with a man slapping a women once if she attacks him, or throw her to the ground etc. Same thing if some drunken idiot attacks you when you do have friends around you. Just dont keep hitting someone after the attack has stoped.


agree 100% theres just no need for it, unless it is in self defence (and by that i dont mean defending your self against a verbal assult or just cos someone looks like theyre going to smack you.

As i've mentioned in previous threads violence against men is just as bad as violence against women, it all hurts the same and we all have feelings and if some one thinks theyre big enough to dish it out then they have to expect to take it aswell.
 

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She makes a good point re violence against men
Anyone see the Hollyoaks episode where whathisname got raped in the changing room ?
...And judges need to jail women who falsely and deliberately allege rape against an innocent (wo)man.



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