Got done for speeding

[Lamp]

No need to get stressed about it or blub your eyes out.

You broke the law
You got caught
Take the points, pay the fine, and move on like everyone else.

Its just one of those things. Its not like you're going to prison is it ?

Cheer up

 

[Corran]

On a road just up from my house there was a man caught going 70 in a 40mph area; granted it wasn't a high danger area but still...

He complained in court that he couldn't see the speed camera as he came upto it. He got away with no fine, no points and the speed camera was later taken down. The whole system is stupid. Personally I think each speed camera SHOULD be hidden but the argument is that if you're caught, the moments just after being caught is when you're the least aware on the road as your mind is wondering about other things. So I guess having them near schools and such is a bad idea fullstop; they should just add more speedbumps.

Hidden speed cameras probably get classed as being covert surveillance = legislation dictates that you have to be given authorisation for it etc.
If this is the case, then anything which that covert survellience (ie the camera) gathers as evidence is inadmissable in court therefore all charges have to be dropped.

Silly maybe, but then so are most speed limits. Hell, if i remember rightly the limits are only what they are currently because a couple of decades back they reduced the limits so that less fuel was used when there was a shortage... nothing about saving lifes!

 

[soze]

Hidden speed cameras probably get classed as being covert surveillance = legislation dictates that you have to be given authorisation for it etc.
If this is the case, then anything which that covert survellience (ie the camera) gathers as evidence is inadmissable in court therefore all charges have to be dropped.

Silly maybe, but then so are most speed limits. Hell, if i remember rightly the limits are only what they are currently because a couple of decades back they reduced the limits so that less fuel was used when there was a shortage... nothing about saving lifes!

That was Single Carriageways i think down from 70 - 60 not town roads. And 60 on a Single Carriage way is about avoiding accidents as not every car van lorry ect can do 70 but on Dual and M roads you can over take so the limit is up.

 

[CorNokZ]

Speeders = No sympathy, no matter what excuse you use(ofc if you have someone in the backseat that needs to be taken to the hospital etc it's okay to a certain level)

 

[Golena]

Personally I think each speed camera SHOULD be hidden but the argument is that if you're caught, the moments just after being caught is when you're the least aware on the road as your mind is wondering about other things. So I guess having them near schools and such is a bad idea fullstop; they should just add more speedbumps.

Hidden speedcamera's are also a stupid idea.
There are times when going briefly over the speed limit should be allowed. When overtaking for example, or to create a gap for someone to filter in from a slip-road, instead of just staring at each other while you collide.

The big issue with camera's is there's no context for the incident. At least Police with speed-guns could apply common sense as to if you were tearing along like a lunatic, or doing 35 for 30 meters to get past a cyclist.

Having a nation driving along staring constantly at the speedo isn't a way of increasing road safety.. And people that claim you should be able to tell how fast you are going without looking have obviously never actually driven a car and known how fast they were going. Put your average driver in a car and get them to do 30 down a section of road they don't know without a speedo, I can guarantee they won't succeed.

 

[Corran]

Having a nation driving along staring constantly at the speedo isn't a way of increasing road safety.. And people that claim you should be able to tell how fast you are going without looking have obviously never actually driven a car and known how fast they were going. Put your average driver in a car and get them to do 30 down a section of road they don't know without a speedo, I can guarantee they won't succeed.

More to the point, get a driver that been doing 70mph on a motorway for 1hr to do it. As any driver knows that your body and mind has adapted to the increased speed, driving at 30mph then feels as if you doing about 5mph. Takes ages to make sure you are naturally doing 30mph without having to check if you been doing 70+ for a few hours.

 

[preacherboy]

It's not rocket science 3rd is 30 mph

TBH I don't give a shit for the outcome got enough money for the fine Thread was about what the outcome would be not me /crying

 

[Lamp]

You also get banned from Freddyshouse for 6 months.
And you have to whip yourself 40 times morning, noon, and night with a badgers tail.
And wear sackcloth and ashes for a year.
And eat worms in the garden.
And poo in a bucket.

Oh...and you'll be forced to have sex with Sarah Jessica Parker twice a day.

 

[Golena]

It's not rocket science 3rd is 30 mph

a) That's clearly not true in all but the most crappest of cars. If you believe that you should frame your speeding ticket as proof your car actually made it to 35.

b) Depends very much if your going uphill or downhill.

c) Yes I know you were taking the piss.

and if all that failed.

d) I drive an automatic!!

 

[Ctuchik]

What jeros said basically, mobile use whilst driving is dangerous, people who do it deserve everything they get.

ANYTHING that distracts the driver from what he's supposed to do is dangerous in one way or another. wanna make all that stuff illegal to?

 

[Lamp]

Its only a matter of time before you won't even be allowed to smoke in your own private car whilst driving.

All the police gotta do is now is find anything objectionable in your driving and say its "dangerous" or "negligent" driving, or that you were distracted and "driving without due care and attention".

I think fines for people who use hand held cell phones while driving is right and proper.

 

[preacherboy]

a) That's clearly not true in all but the most crappest of cars. If you believe that you should frame your speeding ticket as proof your car actually made it to 35.

b) Depends very much if your going uphill or downhill.

c) Yes I know you were taking the piss.

and if all that failed.

d) I drive an automatic!!

Sorry your wrong 3rd is 30 unless your a kid boy racer and accelerate up or down hill, will depend though on the stepness of the hill you are going up maybe then you will need to accelerate

 

[Mephz]

At least you didn't get caught by the same police officer twice and got 3 points each time for reversing up a slip road

Fucking lazy doughnut eating no real crime work doing ****.

 

[Golena]

Sorry your wrong 3rd is 30 unless your a kid boy racer and accelerate

Or you want to get more than 5mpg.

Driving in 4th at 30 will use less petrol, and in any kind of decent car you'll probably actually find that you'll accelerate more, and therefore be more likely to step over the speed limit in 3rd than you would in 4th.

I've certainly been able to go way above 30 simply by putting a car in 3rd and taking my feet off the pedals downhill.

 

[Corran]

Sorry your wrong 3rd is 30 unless your a kid boy racer and accelerate up or down hill, will depend though on the stepness of the hill you are going up maybe then you will need to accelerate

If you drive in 3rd gear all the time in a 30 zone then your petrol consumption is much higher then necessary.

On top of that, the optimum gear will differ on all cars. Gearing ratio's/timing, engine size, car weight etc etc. But hey, no point trying to teach old dogs new tricks.

 

[Golly]

lamp isn't smoking illegal under some circumstances in a car now? (like if your in a car with a passenger, I thought the new rules were that inside a car is classed as a public space and so unless your passenger is also smoking its illegal? could be wrong on that)

I wasn't saying that using a mobile is a good idea, just that the media and police attention it gets is a bit of a joke when I'm fairly sure theres much more pressing matters that the police could be dealing with, and theres much bigger issues on the road and inside a car that will detract from a persons focus more-so than a mobile (screaming children / road rage?) - which apparently is being looked into by the government, which could lead to some very funny laws

oh and pip <3 you

 

[Corran]

lamp isn't smoking illegal under some circumstances in a car now? (like if your in a car with a passenger, I thought the new rules were that inside a car is classed as a public space and so unless your passenger is also smoking its illegal? could be wrong on that)

I wasn't saying that using a mobile is a good idea, just that the media and police attention it gets is a bit of a joke when I'm fairly sure theres much more pressing matters that the police could be dealing with, and theres much bigger issues on the road and inside a car that will detract from a persons focus more-so than a mobile (screaming children / road rage?) - which apparently is being looked into by the government, which could lead to some very funny laws

oh and pip <3 you

Only time smoking in a car is illegal is if it is a business vehicle, else it up to you. If someone got an objection to you smoking in your own car then you just shove teh cig up their arse! that will end their objection.

P.s. Not a smoker, hate smoking/smell of smoke but some laws are getting rediculous.

 

[Golly]

the whole "public space" thing takes the piss

I do think pubs and clubs are better without smokers, and I'm a smoker

I have no qualms nipping outside for a quick cig, theres usually likewise people to chat to (I also have a theory that girls who smoke, tend to be more of a laugh / dirtier anyways so...)

And people who don't smoke don't have to come back from the pub reeking of the nastiness of it, and don't have to instantly wash all their clothes etc etc

So in a way it has been beneficial, but some aspects of the law are just so OTT it begs belief

 

[Bugz]

As long as people don't smoke in public places where other non-smokers may inhale unwanted toxins and so on I'm happy.

If you own your car, you should be able to smoke in it. If you're going to a smoking bar, you should be able to smoke in it and so on and so forth.

 

[Flimgoblin]

surprises me how little action's taken against tailgating - far more dangerous than a cigarette imo (though probably on par with a mobile phone)

I'm always impressed at how annoyed people get if you drive at 30mph exactly

(in a 30 zone that is, they've got good reason to get annoyed if it's in a 40 or on the motorway )

 

[Ctuchik]

i'm all for making the roads safer and all that. but some of the laws in UK is pretty pants. like talking on the cell phone whilst driving and comparing that to be just as dangerous as driving drunk, while that may be true to some extent theres always the option to stop talking in the pone. u can't exactly instantly stop being drunk.


i mean, speaking on a cell phone is like talking to a passenger, ur not more or less distracted buy any of those 2 things. and talking to a passenger sure as hell isn't illegal. the only thing different is that ur holding the phone in ur hand, but as far as i can understand, thats not the issue in that law.

the issue seems to be the talking as thats distracting you from the driving bit. well make talking in general be fucking illegal to when ur driving. as it is now its a fucking hypocrit(sp?) law.

 

[Dukat]

ANYTHING that distracts the driver from what he's supposed to do is dangerous in one way or another. wanna make all that stuff illegal to?

There are degree's of dangerous, I wouldnt class smoking as dangerous to a point - perhaps lighting it etc, but then I dont smoke so I'm not really in a position to comment, I do know from experience that mobile use whilst driving results in accidents. I dont know about hands free sets, just the handhelds.

You only have one hand to control the car, which is bad considering how fast things can happen. its possible to partially obscure your view and become inclined not to do observations properly to the side that your mobile is held to your head. This is what nearly resulted in me becoming a smudge mark on the road, probably its happened to alot of people.

There is the argument that bad drivers are bad drivers regardless of if they are on the mobile or not, and I guess thats true to an extent, but how do you enforce something if its based on ability?

I dont think driving should become something that we are policed in to the point of it becoming more of a hassle that it already is, but I do think that it shouldnt be made more dangerous than nessecary.

Bare in mind that when I wrote that I'd just hours before had a near miss by someone with a phone, so I guess my perspective was/is somewhat understandably biased. that doesnt change the fact that this is my perspecitive and will be until I'm convinced otherwise

 

[Lollie]

i'm all for making the roads safer and all that. but some of the laws in UK is pretty pants. like talking on the cell phone whilst driving and comparing that to be just as dangerous as driving drunk, while that may be true to some extent theres always the option to stop talking in the pone. u can't exactly instantly stop being drunk.


i mean, speaking on a cell phone is like talking to a passenger, ur not more or less distracted buy any of those 2 things. and talking to a passenger sure as hell isn't illegal. the only thing different is that ur holding the phone in ur hand, but as far as i can understand, thats not the issue in that law.

the issue seems to be the talking as thats distracting you from the driving bit. well make talking in general be fucking illegal to when ur driving. as it is now its a fucking hypocrit(sp?) law.

Using the phone when drving is the issue, you will only have one hand on the wheel there fore arent in complete control of the car same as eating or drinking when drving, afaik you can still use those stupid blue tooth headsets since you dont need to have your hand constantly to your ear

 

[Nate]

At least you didn't get caught by the same police officer twice and got 3 points each time for reversing up a slip road

Fucking lazy doughnut eating no real crime work doing ****.

Had to quote this, incase anyone missed it.

LMAO!!! How dumb/lazy can you get!

 

[Golena]

i mean, speaking on a cell phone is like talking to a passenger, ur not more or less distracted buy any of those 2 things.

Actually talking to someone on a mobile is more distracting than talking to a passenger.

When your talking to a passenger then they can see where you are, what's going on etc. So when someone cuts you up, or your trying to pull out of a junction, etc. they can shut up for 20 seconds. When someone's on the phone they will just keep talking regardless, and most people don't have the ability to just stop listening and concentrate on the road for that time.

How much difference that makes is questionable, but it's not exactly the same.

 

[Infanity]

I'm not one to condone speeding it is wrong was done for going 35mph in a 30 mph zone on the letter I received was not a fine, just conformation to ask me if I was the one driving, and to ask me for my driving license number,so it's making me wonder what will happen next cause I've never been done for speeding before

A bit of info for you here.

If it was a fixed speed camera YES you can/will get points.

However when you are flashed by a "guywithagun" you must be pulled over and formally cautioned. There is no way of getting points this way unless you have been cautioned, Any letter they send asking if it was you driving and so on, (if possible: say it could of been a few people etc if theres anyone else insured on car/mates that are fully comp). If not letter back saying yes you were driving but you were not cautioned for it. ;]

 

[pikeh]

(I also have a theory that girls who smoke, tend to be dirtier anyways so...)

true. but not in a good way.

 

[liloe]

(I also have a theory that girls who smoke, tend to be more of a laugh / dirtier anyways so...)

Slightly OT.....but I couldn't live with a girl who smokes...kissing must be terribly ugly and you have that smell all day long...no thanks xD

 

[Golly]

Slightly OT.....but I couldn't live with a girl who smokes...kissing must be terribly ugly and you have that smell all day long...no thanks xD

never said anything about living with em

obviously as im a smoker have completely diff view on things though, its more a case of "oh yay i dont have to go brush me teeth after every cig" (though chewing gum is a good substitute)

pikeh how so?

as i said only from personal experience, but the class one nighters seem to always have been smokers- duno what exactly it is, but something along the lines of smoking not looking cool, but them not caring, that whole slap in the face to adhering to the norm kinda thing

and all me best female m8s have always been smokers as well they just seem to nbe more liberal and happy with themselves, instread of stuck up and totally image dependant

 

[Congax]

This thread gets a 9/10 for straying offtopic asap.