Good Enchanter Spec

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Ok i have asked lots of people in the game and some say all MANA and others say different what is the best ENCHANTER spec. :clap:






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Bellona

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50 mana 20 light if your doing alot of focus pulling powerleveilng, farming mobs etc

49 mana 22 light for rvr

differences arent bigger that it doesnt matter in the long run, but imo mana is the best way for a chanter, if you want light, roll a mentalist etc :)
 

Auriel

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NF is more of a nuker's game so I wonder about 37 light / 39 mana... 30% heat debuff and 50 (37 + 13) light @ RR3, 2nd best pbaoe, aoe asd and dps debuffs. Slightly shifted away from the pbaoe for a stronger base nuke and more utility.

Pbaoe doesn't hit through walls in NF (supposedly), nukers are in better standing than they were, so the previouly cookie cutter 50 mana 20 light spec doesn't look so perfect. Somehow enchanters have to find a place between the light mentas (best nuke / aoe nuke, a pet, demezz, some healing ability) and mana elds (snare nuke / aoe nuke, best pbaoe, debuffs, disease, weak nearsight, base bolt, weak gtaoe, weak aoe mezz), who have a lot of utility and damage dealing.

50 mana spec *might* be a dinosaur in NF. That's my one big worry.
 

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Auriel said:
NF is more of a nuker's game so I wonder about 37 light / 39 mana... 30% heat debuff and 50 (37 + 13) light @ RR3, 2nd best pbaoe, aoe asd and dps debuffs.

why? the debuffs are pretty worthless and light nuke will hit for lower dmg than the base nuke.. best to keep 49/22 for rvr
 

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shame that chanter has been so strongly defined into the one spec

what we need is some chanter whos willing to break the mould to come out and show us what other specs of it can do......

BRACK! :p
 

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I was light to RR7 46 Light 27 Mana (gives heat debuff and a PB of around 400+) unfortunaltly if i wanted to keep rvring I was forced down the mana line to be group friendly or sit on my ass in DL:

Dunno what the big fuss is about light ments they have same DD delve as Light specc chanters, same stunn, they cant debuff there own dmg they dont have an insta interupt yet are prefered over a light chanter for rvr, dont gimme the crap that they can heal a bit dot a bit demezz a bit have a pet? not many run with pets: they dont have time its heat debuff from mana chanter and nuke........imo light specc chanter is far more versatile for rvr & the pet wont turn on em o_O

Come NF i will be going back to my old specc of 46 light 27 mana:
 

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Heals and demezz are handy. And light ments have ghetto crack. And single target mez. And they can be celts, and celts = s3x. :)
and in NF, mentalists get static tempest. :x
 

Auriel

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Vodkafairy said:
why? the debuffs are pretty worthless and light nuke will hit for lower dmg than the base nuke.. best to keep 49/22 for rvr

Yep, L35 spec nuke is worthless in RvR and the light debuffs are situational at best.

What you do get, is the L50 base nuke at 37+13 or better would be hitting at full potential, plus you keep a 30% heat debuff in the mana line to self debuff :flame:

Mana eld is the ultimate pb'er for me because of the brutal str/con debuff to go with it, you can pl an animist farm bot to 50 in a day if you want a farm bot, so for a chanter it would be nice to do something powerful in an unusual way :)
 

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Vulcan said:
Dunno what the big fuss is about light ments they have same DD delve as Light specc chanters

And the top aoe one, which is great fun in zerg vs zerg, plus casting on doors keeps them clear of pb'ers :)

same stun, they cant debuff there own dmg they dont have an insta interupt

True, but they have a 40 odd second mezz and confuse, which I used a bit on my light menta. Nice against anything but a det tank.

yet are prefered over a light chanter for rvr, dont gimme the crap that they can heal a bit dot a bit demezz a bit have a pet? not many run with pets:

That's their mistake :) There's some nice pets available with stun, and things like Empyrean Elders have the alb spec af buff and heal people like the underhill ally. Seems better in NF where you can port somewhere for a pet and port over to the action much quicker. Demezz and heal are nice, DoT not really.

imo light specc chanter is far more versatile for rvr & the pet wont turn on em o_O

Oranges and apples :) Some of the pets I've had with my menta were pure genious and the control loss works both ways (breaks cc on the menta for example), but with a chanter you know what you're getting everytime.
 

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I thank ye all for the help and think i will go 50 mana 20 light i like and hear what VULCAN was saying but i dont fancy changing now. I would also like to ask ye what would be the best spec for a chanters Rps I was thinking MOC but?? Any help once again would gr8 Thanx. :)


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Sharpo

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49mana
22light
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why?
49mana is ALL you need, you do not ened the lvl 50 focusshield, its useless these days
22light, 2 reasons:
1) less variance on your base dd
2) blue dps debuff = less resists
 

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Ok i will do that thanx m8 But what about my Rps?
I did get MCL from the RPS i got in BG1 and it is quite helpful but what should be my over all 50 rps spec?​


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Vulcan

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Not gonna break it all down as you done Auriel, as i said it was my opinion and mine only I ran with one of the best light ments on the server before Elwiz and Meanie were even thought of shes still ranked no 6 in Ment top 10 & hasnt played the char in over 12 months.... My point is due to fixed group setups theres no place for Light specc as things stand unless your in TD:

More people should have there outlook on Light spec casters imo

Mana has and always will be for now the in specc

What suprises me most, is most dont realise that Mana or light all casters use range nukes far more than aeo and as mana specc your omm far greater than you would be if light...

Hence NF i beleive will bring a place back in rvr for the light specc caster...
 

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Dont Mana Enchanters use pick a box in RVR and dont stop Pbeing use MOC or whatever and WHoop All

I dont know just taught that was what they do; :confused:

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Vulcan

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Commandment said:
Dont Mana Enchanters use pick a box in RVR and dont stop Pbeing use MOC or whatever and WHoop All

I dont know just taught that was what they do; :confused:

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lol try doing that against a Mid group with every insta interupt ingame MOC or not ur fked they almost totally negate a caster
 

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Vulcan said:
lol try doing that against a Mid group with every insta interupt ingame MOC or not ur fked they almost totally negate a caster

Well what the fuck are Mana Enchanters good for in RVR??
 

Auriel

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Vulcan, I remember Qte by reputation if that's who you mean ;) I agree about using the single DD most and the better mana consumption too, I noticed that with my menta when I changed from mana to light.
 

Vulcan

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Commandment said:
Well what the fuck are Mana Enchanters good for in RVR??

We have a good sence of humour :)

Bottom line as i see it a caster is only as good as his support, break it down we get threads on here about the best of there class, take Bitte, Gorba & a shedfull of others put them in an ordinary group setup they die as fast as the rest... support is the backbone of any group each class doing as Mythic say working as intended o_O
 

Vulcan

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Auriel said:
Vulcan, I remember Qte by reputation if that's who you mean ;) I agree about using the single DD most and the better mana consumption too, I noticed that with my menta when I changed from mana to light.

Actually I meant Fair ...but Qte rocked as well :)


Soz folks im bored at work o_O
 

Commandment

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okies thanx all but that still doesnt help with my Rps problem :) Vulcan any words?? Auriel ??
I just wanna no all my spec off by heart so i dont fuck it up and become a GIMP :p

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