Good camp bonus at apk :o

[-redb-]

Good place to xp, just hav to watch out for the air thue agroo

http://members.lycos.co.uk/tehfoo/jpg/deadpkguard1.jpg
http://members.lycos.co.uk/tehfoo/jpg/deadpkguard2.jpg

:spin:

 

[old.willowywicca]

lol

 

[old.GeForce]

hehe, next thing we'll see PBAOE groups camping PKs

 

[old.Jeriraa]

Yeah, focus pull them and pbae... good idea.

 

[old.mattshanes]

Can see why mythic are looking at enchanters now,heh if they look at this thread they will be shocked.

 

[Coren]

How much cash did you get from it?

 

[old.SadonTheGrey]

'Strong this' 'Strong that'

Sounds like MiRC invade group chat too.

Strong chanters :/

 

[Shike]

Originally posted by old.Jeriraa
Yeah, focus pull them and pbae... good idea.

hehe, it could actually work

 

[Shike]

and lmao... always thought those guards was invincible

 

[etaew]

the guard that was pulled was a mob guard outside apk .. elite guard lvl around 65 the other guards.. the realm guards are lvl 90+ try and pull one of them

 

[parisienscot]

Yay it's Eclipse using overpowered abilities and thinking they're so cool and skilled! As per usual!

Roll on hibbie nerf!

 

[Tacticus]

pfft

So Eclipse using overpowered abilities....1 tank holding aggro....3 pbaoers nuking.....last i checked you had tanks and pbaoers too....


Get a grip, with the exception of me whos new on the team, Eclipse is a long standing good group of people whos given the good groups from both alb and mid competition. That your a random n00b and cant be able to defeat a high RR group...im the lowest realm rank in the group and im rr6. Blaeh people like you make me sick, redb post a funny thing and you have to turn it into a whine.

 

[tris-]

stlong = ?
or is it just another shitty word

 

[old.willowywicca]

Re: pfft

Originally posted by Tacticus
So Eclipse using overpowered abilities....1 tank holding aggro....3 pbaoers nuking.....

wait a sec..

hibs get tanks and get pbaoe?
ffs even getting one of those things is overpowered, but both?!? mythic are such idiots!!!

 

[parisienscot]

Erm no - pbaoe isn't overpowered - it's the damage shield that doesn't scale down on high level mobs like those tk guards.

And I know all realms can do it - that's the whole point - no need for Eclipse to prance about making posts on barrysworld and making out like it took a lot of skill to do.

Of course this also applies to their RVR antics too - don't get me started on hib realm abilities - they can make any noobie hib group own

 

[tris-]

Originally posted by parisienscot
Erm no - pbaoe isn't overpowered - it's the damage shield that doesn't scale down on high level mobs like those tk guards.

And I know all realms can do it - that's the whole point - no need for Eclipse to prance about making posts on barrysworld and making out like it took a lot of skill to do.

Of course this also applies to their RVR antics too - don't get me started on hib realm abilities - they can make any noobie hib group own

quote where redb said it took skill? oh wait you cant. :sleeping: cant believe your jealous of peoples characters in a game.

 

[Falcon]

Dunno how anyone can mistake Hib for being overpowered nowadays :/

We're very powerful once every 30mins but that's about where it stops, both other realms have nearly all our toys but better and more on top!

BAoD, GP and AM are hardly justifications for a realm being overpowered when it's only once every 30mins, the rest of the time we're pretty f*cked.

 

[parisienscot]

Originally posted by Falcon
We're very powerful once every 30mins but that's about where it stops, both other realms have nearly all our toys but better and more on top!

Yes but where do you hide when your RAS are down??? Please tell me where!!!!!! I can never find you lot when you have no RAs. The only time I encoutered some hibbies with no RAs was when they tried to rush in behind us middies while we were taking an alb keep.

I cold debuffed Lorelei and *shock* no baod - so she got twatted in under two seconds

So yeah I agree hibs not overpowered when RAs are down but you must have a nice big tree you hide behind

 

[parisienscot]

Re: pfft

Originally posted by Tacticus
im the lowest realm rank in the group and im rr6.

I don't really give a damn what realm rank you are - debuffing a RR1 and a RR10 both results in negative resists if no baod up - even if you have a lot of avoidance of magic the difference is negligable. But hey you should know all about debuffing resists - you are a hib after all ;-b

 

[Tacticus]

two things, we didnt FOCUS shield that pk guard, aranor tanked it, you can see me healing him in that first screenie.

Second, RR is everything in the current game, low RR toons are just as easy to beat as blue/green cons for ahigh rr group.

 

[old.mattshanes]

Due to the fact the best rvr groups in hib rely on pbaoe because that's the best types of group hibs have to offer, they get those stupid caster interupts which makes it hard for them to rvr sometimes lately.Be nice if they were removed altogether but we all know it's not going to happen it seems i even had 7sec caster interupt on my theurg so that means 9s cast time bah.

 

[old.willowywicca]

Originally posted by parisienscot
Yes but where do you hide when your RAS are down??? Please tell me where!!!!!! I can never find you lot when you have no RAs.

that's because they've died owing to no RAs and are walking back to emain

 

[parisienscot]

Originally posted by old.willowywicca
that's because they've died owing to no RAs and are walking back to emain

He he didn't fink of that Oh that's ok then - sorry hibbies I wub j00 really!

 

[vintervargen]

both mids and albs can do caster or tank grps that do very well with RA's and class abilities. a hib tank grp have no advantages.

 

[Falcon]

Matt's right, even PBAE aint all that without MoC up which is a damn expensive RA and when chanters have to get BAoD for the group so their group can compete you have to have a few hundred k rps to afford MoC, that still leaves us low on mana until we can afford MCL/Serenity so a chanter needs to be RR5L1 before it's really good, also you then need purge, no use for MoC if you get slammed/mezzed so for a chanter to be real useful for a group you need around RR6L1 minimum, that and the ideal Hib group has 2 - 3 chanters in and it can be hard to use PBAE properly until higher RR. As I say, you need at LEAST RR6L1, I'd say RR6L5 if you include some serenity before you can start to think about stuff like MotA, WP, MoM, Longwind. PBAE is nice but it's very situational and only real works against newbies or in select situations due to the dodgy interrupt code, all casters have the same problems but it hits PBAErs most due to having a high chance of getting interrupted.

 

[parisienscot]

Originally posted by Tacticus
Second, RR is everything in the current game, low RR toons are just as easy to beat as blue/green cons for ahigh rr group.

I can see why RR is important for tank versus tank - but please fill me in on how it matters caster vs caster - if you have say 48 + 21 in mana magic, because of the diminishing retruns it doesn't make a huge difference in damage - and anyway if you're MOC isn't up a humble RR3 like me can still interrupt you so your damage output is zero.

 

[Falcon]

Only good thing about Hib tank group is we have better access to PBT, but you can't really afford double PBT cos otherwise you only end up with 4 tanks max, 3 if you have 2 druids. I guess it's a hard choice, either:

- Bard
- Druid
- Warden
- 5 Tanks

- Bard
- Druid
- 2 Wardens
- 4 Tanks

Or substitute 2 druids for 2 wardens or have both and 3 tanks. We don't then get BoF or SoS (BAoD useless vs tank groups), or anything as hard hitting as savages/zerkers, also we have lack of access to damage adds so as he said above, hib tank groups are pretty shafted most the time.

So looks like you're stuck with mana bombers bombing you for the time being

 

[Falcon]

I can see why RR is important for tank versus tank - but please fill me in on how it matters caster vs caster - if you have say 48 + 21 in mana magic, because of the diminishing retruns it doesn't make a huge difference in damage - and anyway if you're MOC isn't up a humble RR3 like me can still interrupt you so your damage output is zero.

Well high RRs will be able to afford stuff like AoM, Toughness, Aug Const so will have higher resists and hps, also stuff like MoM, WP for higher damage and MotA for faster cast speeds. All those things a lower RR wont have, read my above post for why chanters can't get these toys until around RR6L5 if they want their PBAE to be useful

 

[parisienscot]

Originally posted by Falcon
Well high RRs will be able to afford stuff like AoM, Toughness, Aug Const so will have higher resists and hps, also stuff like MoM, WP for higher damage and MotA for faster cast speeds. All those things a lower RR wont have, read my above post for why chanters can't get these toys until around RR6L5 if they want their PBAE to be useful

OK sounds reasonable - forgot about the faster cast speeds and the reset the quickcast thingie (does anyone use that one?) but isn't saying that high RRs can kill low RRs like killing greens and blues not exaggerating a bit?

 

[parisienscot]

Originally posted by Falcon
also we have lack of access to damage adds

Get your chanters to spec full enchantments :-b