Going to renew my account after an six months

[Willi]

Playing chosen rank 40.

ORVR
- People get boost when they come to rvr area with char under rank 40 and if i won i get 1 RP = not worth of it and usually i lose fight 'cos im chosen.
- People running in zergs -> bad lag = impossible to play tank class
- Much people in same area = CTD ~10/hour
- Hitting like wet sponge (no matter against what class)
- Get objective and get 1000 renown and thats it ...
- Get keep and 1100 renown and one lucky might get golden loot bag with some usefull stuff and rest of warband (60+ players) get blue or green loot bags with useless rank 33 gear or nothing.
- Playing tank on ORVR is useless because engineers will pull us in to the keep trough the door and you can figure what happens then...

Scenarios
- Well PUG's are what they are ...
- Dying like in 5 secs because of ranged DPS (yey and we got patch incoming which does upgrade ranged DPS -> dying in 3 secs).
- Playing same scenario over and over again ...
- Again gettin 1 renown from low rank player whos boosted near to equal with me.
- Gettin better renown from scenarios than ORVR -> makes me stand in dragonwake and get scenario quest and kill player quest to get some money.
- As tank point of view , im not healing , im not dealing huge amount of damage , im not making killblows ... so where im gettin my renown ?

PVE
- I can only do some tome unlocks after i have had rank 40
- Bastion third wing main mob 1/2 shotting me when i use 3 annihilator wards on me and running with tank spec. Not about to speak other mobs on other dungeons...
- Every dungeon needs somekind of "setup" group to even kill some mobs or clear whole dungeon.

So playing rank 40 toon any other time than primetime is useless, because theres no scenarios. You cannot do anything in ORVR. Not about to speak of PVE where you need "setup" groups. Crafting to main and secondary skill to 200 goes quite fast. This makes me to roll an alt char when i would like to play with my main char :/

This game has potential but EA have to figure how to balance things and how to get some action in to odd hours (pvp,pve,scenarios).

Feeling very frustrated as playing tank class atm.

So i wont renew my account until they have fixed some bugs and balanced game, etc...

 

[Frozenheart]

Isn't there a post for this kind of info already? https://forums.freddyshouse.com/warhammer308/233123-how-many-will-pay-play-curious.html

 

[Toel]

Isn't there a post for this kind of info already? https://forums.freddyshouse.com/warhammer308/233123-how-many-will-pay-play-curious.html

Yeah, but he's special you know.

 

[Willi]

Originally Posted by Toel
Yeah, but he's special you know.

Oh ... at last somebondy feels for me ...

 

[Kami]

Willi send it in as feedback, no use posting here as it'll be lost in the whine.

 

[Toel]

Came out harsh, I know. But honestly, one does get tired of these posts you know - it's not like it does any good. As Kami said, send it in as feedback!

 

[Bugz]

I didn't get tired of it.

So leave the poor bloke alone.

 

[Toel]

I didn't get tired of it.

So leave the poor bloke alone.

"Poor bloke", heh.

 

[Willi]

Willi send it in as feedback, no use posting here as it'll be lost in the whine.

Sended it as feedback now ...

 

[Tiani]

You got to the level cap quickly, its not anyone elses fault but your own, the RP gain etc is literally because they are lower rank, in a few weeks when everyone is RR40 you will still get low renown, I dont think RR80 was supposed to be achieved in a week

I am approaching 40 now but conciously slowing myself down because I want to get there at same time as everyone else not alone and spend a few weeks waiting for people to catch up.

Play an alt for a while and then come back to your R40, Im sure it will be better then (that is if the patch doesnt break the game!)

 

[Willi]

Issue is that most people are in T4 areas renown 25+ and they get boost to rank 38 if i remember correctly. Then its not right that i get 1 renown when i kill that player imo.

Then it would be fine if they wouldnt get any boost and then i kill that player and get 1 renown then its ok.

Been rank 40 few weeks now and people get also rank 40 chars, then they meet those problems that i mentioned before and then they roll an alt(and play with it and let their r40 char dust) or quit playing.

 

[Tiani]

because all bolster does is raise the characters rank not their renown rank, and it does this so they have a fighting chance, I mean a R40 char would decimate a R30 char if it wasnt for the bolsered they would have no chance (it is hard with the bolster to be fair)

 

[Case]

oh i rolled a tank and cant dps now i`m gonna cry boo hoo...

i could go through your entire whine and suggest fixes ect but your not going to listen so best of luck for the future

 

[Willi]

I rolled tank and i cannot last in fights (was hoping thisone when i rolled tank class) no matter pve or pvp, cannot DPS, with lucky shot i might interupt some cast if they wont parry my attack when theyre casting.

So Case tell me what tank should do then ? Be cannonfodder like i am now...

 

[Tiani]

I rolled tank and i cannot last in fights (was hoping thisone when i rolled tank class) no matter pve or pvp, cannot DPS, with lucky shot i might interupt some cast if they wont parry my attack when theyre casting.

So Case tell me what tank should do then ? Be cannonfodder like i am now...

you are not cannon fodder,

I have spent a lot of time in scenarios spamming damage on a tank in a futile attempt to kill him only to watch him go to less than 10% HP straight back up to full, then takes another 10 minutes and 2 times your AP pool to get him there again.

They soak up damage like bitches from what I have seen.

 

[Tallen]

I rolled tank and i cannot last in fights (was hoping thisone when i rolled tank class) no matter pve or pvp, cannot DPS, with lucky shot i might interupt some cast if they wont parry my attack when theyre casting.

So Case tell me what tank should do then ? Be cannonfodder like i am now...

Protect the weak and annoy the weedy enemy casters/healers. Start whacking a healer and watch the enemy fire focus on you, the guy who can survive and absorb the most. This frees up your buddies to get cracking on wiping out the enemies squishies

 

[Loneliness]

I agree with most of the original post but only most because i can't speak from a rr40s point yet its the same for my ironbreaker though, i have 6 tier2 alts so pretty much says it all.
I dont know what the situation is for a defensive class and renown points but 5% increased renown in scenarios doesnt seem to make much difference, any renown when playing a guard bot is a surprise.
Offpeak playing times is awfall, soloing inf in one chapter for 6 hours with staff dmg isnt all that great.
Im an addict already so ill be renewing no matter what but it will be nice to see changes to what you've posted on.

 

[Case]

The only bit I agreed with was the bit about doing the same scenario over and over thats annoying. Other than that everything else is rubbish and has no basis in fact at all.

When you rolled a chosen what did you expect? it`s a tank for christs sake, if you wanted a dps you should have rolled a marauder or a sorc. In order to get rp`s what you do is guard your healers, interupt their healers, debuff enemies with your auras, knock down enemy dps and healers to allow our dps to kill them. Have you never played a team game before? It seems I know how to play a tank better than you just from watching what my wife does who incidently also plays a chosen a whole lot better than you by the sounds of it.

 

[Naetha]

A chosen is a support class (no really, it is), and therefore is useless without a team.

Your role is to run in and debuff your dps's targets (healers and casters) while pulling aggro off your dps and your healer (who should be healing you).

If you don't have that backup of a dps and a healer, then I've got to ask, why roll a chosen in the first place? Having a sword three times longer than your arm doesn't in fact make you a dps toon. Also got to ask why even play the game if all you're going to do is solo? It's an MMO

My chosen is level 38, RR33 and I regularly play with a sorc and a zealot, and love it. I know I'm never gonna come top of the damage tables, or get kill spam, but I know I can increase the sorc's dps by 50% just by being there. You don't get much recognition for it, but you make a huge difference.

And yes, I'm Case's wife

 

[Loneliness]

Do Chosen get a two handed weapon so they can be melee dps with marauder like a spearo wannabie are they still doing crap dmg if they do?
And hows the renown worked out when guarding? curious on both.

 

[Gotmagi]

Do Chosen get a two handed weapon so they can be melee dps with marauder like a spearo wannabie are they still doing crap dmg if they do?
And hows the renown worked out when guarding? curious on both.

Chosen are able to place among the highest dmg wise in a scenario if played correctly, but then again.. it can also be said about most other classes.

 

[Willi]

My spec is Chosen Career Builder - Warhammer Online
and using sword and shield. Hits ~8k , ele 1000, corp 800, AF 3000, toughness 600.

And playing like that you said, using my stuns, snare and root. But enemy healer can ignore me. He can outheal himself with his hot, so im no threat at all to him. Same goes with other clothies if they have one healer healing even a bit.

 

[mooSe_]

well don't worry, come patch time we won't be able out heal anything

 

[Naetha]

You're not listening to what we're saying though - you're not meant to kill people, you soften them up, and distract/disrupt the healers so a dps can kill them.

 

[Shike]

well don't worry, come patch time we won't be able out heal anything

wth.. 3s heal downed to 2.5s and 50% better regarding interrupts on it, it'll be king to have that heal.

 

[Willi]

I have said before that i made chosen because i thought i could last in fights not for dps. And threat to healer could be something else than damage , style that debuffs casting times for example.

 

[dee777]

wth.. 3s heal downed to 2.5s and 50% better regarding interrupts on it, it'll be king to have that heal.

Thats only one part of the patch. The other is around 35% lesser HPS on your HoTs and on the 1 second heal+HoT. BTW, those two spells are the ones I cast the most both on my shaman and my runepriest. Big heal is more situational, when the opposition leaves me in peace.

No matter how you put it, this is a nerf. Only time will tell if it is deserved or neccessary.

Actually I presume an AM/Shaman plus other healer duo that is rezbotting could be superior to just healing post patch, but we will see. I am getting way offtopic here anyway. Sorry.

 

[Shike]

Thats only one part of the patch. The other is around 35% lesser HPS on your HoTs and on the 1 second heal+HoT. BTW, those two spells are the ones I cast the most both on my shaman and my runepriest. Big heal is more situational, when the opposition leaves me in peace.

No matter how you put it, this is a nerf. Only time will tell if it is deserved or neccessary.

Actually I presume an AM/Shaman plus other healer duo that is rezbotting could be superior to just healing post patch, but we will see. I am getting way offtopic here anyway. Sorry.

Yea well, I guess it has alot to do with ones playstyle. I've always used singleheals more than anything since its the most effective heal in every game I've played so far. Proper position allow for it. HoT's are nice for sorcs backlashes and such but generally, if I see someone getting into trouble, I dont start with a HoT, I start with a proper big heal and try to land that in time and that will keep people up longer rather than if I cast HoT's and then try and top it off. HoT's is something I cast when moving and it will still work ok for that since I aint especially dependant on it. DAoC had no HoT's in this manner and I'm used to healing from that. A sidetrack here is that I usually top the healchart, even at significantly lower level than everyone else in the scenario. I started running Tor Anroc at 19 and still came out on top or very close to it. I think singleheals is the way to go, especially with this change that seem to be coming. 2.5s instead of 3s and harder to setback, its heaven for me with my playstyle. Sure it is maybe harder for some to actually stand still most of the time and heal but I think its far superior. Another note is that alot of people whine about the change and I suspect Mythic will cave in and revert the change in 1.05.

 

[Gahn]

Yea well, I guess it has alot to do with ones playstyle. I've always used singleheals more than anything since its the most effective heal in every game I've played so far. Proper position allow for it. HoT's are nice for sorcs backlashes and such but generally, if I see someone getting into trouble, I dont start with a HoT, I start with a proper big heal and try to land that in time and that will keep people up longer rather than if I cast HoT's and then try and top it off. HoT's is something I cast when moving and it will still work ok for that since I aint especially dependant on it. DAoC had no HoT's in this manner and I'm used to healing from that. A sidetrack here is that I usually top the healchart, even at significantly lower level than everyone else in the scenario. I started running Tor Anroc at 19 and still came out on top or very close to it. I think singleheals is the way to go, especially with this change that seem to be coming. 2.5s instead of 3s and harder to setback, its heaven for me with my playstyle. Sure it is maybe harder for some to actually stand still most of the time and heal but I think its far superior. Another note is that alot of people whine about the change and I suspect Mythic will cave in and revert the change in 1.05.

2.5 s in t4 and late t3 means by the time you casted the heal 90% of your targets are eating dirt
Personally at T3 i cast hot at fly and then the big single one when i moved off the fire (unless i built some tranquillity while debuffing etc).
Not sure it'll be feasable after patch altho.