gogo albs!

[kin]

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Not true the Alb zerg was a problem before Mid had end regen never mind 3 savage 4 seer groups.

Albs just now have something to blaim it on, it used to be insta stun and mezz and zerkers, now its savages
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Tell me which alb group that can match chanters backed up
with bards.

Tell me which alb group that can match savages backed up
by healers.

The only alb class which can compete on even turns is infils because of DF, and everyone who do rvr knows it.

The zerg has its reasons.

 

[September]

Pfft problem is:


Realm A goes RVR-ing with 3 ppl and get owned by 5 from Realm B

Realm A returns with a fg and wtfpwns Realm B

Realm B returns with a fg + some and whateverowns Realm A

Realm A returns with 2 fg...


You see where it's going? Maybe Goa should implent some new script, when there's more then 3 ppl in a certain area, one of them randomnly gets teleported right in front of the realm dragon

 

[raekwon]

stop whingin...if ya don't like it go play summin else pretty simple really.

 

[Ravenbourne]

Albs need to learn there is more than emain, hib has several rvr areas you can go to, you know you dont have to stay at amg

 

[kin]

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------Pfft problem is:


Realm A goes RVR-ing with 3 ppl and get owned by 5 from Realm B

Realm A returns with a fg and wtfpwns Realm B

Realm B returns with a fg + some and whateverowns Realm A

Realm A returns with 2 fg...


You see where it's going? Maybe Goa should implent some new script, when there's more then 3 ppl in a certain area, one of them randomnly gets teleported right in front of the realm dragon
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Wrong

This is what often happens in emain.

Albs go out with 1 fg and gets whooped by fg mid or hibs.
Albs then return with 3 fg and gets whooped by fg mids or hibs.
Albs then return with 6 fg and finally wins.
Albs dont mind winning and so the 6 fgs stay together.

Trust me if the old-timers like outlaw and zoyster had any decent chance in rvr they would not run in fg+, since its worse rp.

Its a fact that certain mid/hib setup/groups dominate rvr, and when these groups are out even groups from alb rvr guilds either log or move to Odins or Hadrians.

 

[September]

It's always whining about albs...



My hunting areas are Forest Sauvage, HW and occasionally Odins, Emain is too zergy for me. And I'm not talking albs alone. I know a few times late at night theres 1-2 fg of hibs camping AMG (odins) I guess they have nothing to do either. Seems to have been their annual pbae meeting, there were at least 4 chanters that I could see and 3 out of 4 were rr8+

So much fun...not. We had about equal numbers, but a lot of ppl who just started. I can get why everyone would rather zerg to get a few rp's, then get blasted to hell by stupid overpowered enchanters who do nothing but hit pbae and occasionally move if they happen to get hit before they can drop the person who god forbids targets them.

I guess the same could be said from Mids, Every other char on their realm is prolly a Savage, very sad

Paladin is my main, I enjoy playing her, even tho my solo capabilities are close to 0. I dont care, I rather play a enjoyable class, then some stupid
:mgwhore2: fotm.

 

[noaim]

Originally posted by September
I dont care, I rather play a enjoyable class, then some stupid
:mgwhore2: fotm.

And ofc a char cant be enjoyable if its a good class.

 

[Ekydus]

We have LOTS of 50s. We have 3 frontiers.

 

[September]

Originally posted by noaim
And ofc a char cant be enjoyable if its a good class.

Never said that did I?

And I wont be the first one to admit seeing a huge increase in mercs and mercfiltrators :/ altho nowhere near as bad as the savage factor.

 

[noaim]

Originally posted by September
Never said that did I?

Originally posted by September
I dont care, I rather play a enjoyable class, then some stupid
:mgwhore2: fotm.

Looks to me as if you divide enjoyable to 1 category and fotm to another. Fyi, a class can be fotm and enjoyable.

 

[Acun]

^^ im so tired of lies lies and LIES!....omfg!

 

[peder]

Originally posted by September
It's always whining about albs...



My hunting areas are Forest Sauvage, HW and occasionally Odins, Emain is too zergy for me. And I'm not talking albs alone. I know a few times late at night theres 1-2 fg of hibs camping AMG (odins) I guess they have nothing to do either. Seems to have been their annual pbae meeting, there were at least 4 chanters that I could see and 3 out of 4 were rr8+

So much fun...not. We had about equal numbers, but a lot of ppl who just started. I can get why everyone would rather zerg to get a few rp's, then get blasted to hell by stupid overpowered enchanters who do nothing but hit pbae and occasionally move if they happen to get hit before they can drop the person who god forbids targets them.

I guess the same could be said from Mids, Every other char on their realm is prolly a Savage, very sad

Paladin is my main, I enjoy playing her, even tho my solo capabilities are close to 0. I dont care, I rather play a enjoyable class, then some stupid
:mgwhore2: fotm.

puppi puppi puppi puppi
daage add is best
gonki gonkidooor
reeber to use pruge
yanga danga diopa
run when u see zerks

looki looki nohands

 

[Ekydus]

OMG PEDER U FORGOT U CAPSLOCK BOOTON,

 

[September]

Originally posted by Ekydus
OMG PEDER U FORGOT U CAPSLOCK BOOTON,

And as usual his reply made no sense with or without caps

 

[Antedeluvian]

Originally posted by peder
puppi puppi puppi puppi
daage add is best
gonki gonkidooor
reeber to use pruge
yanga danga diopa
run when u see zerks

looki looki nohands

You are abnormal and need urgently proffesional help, but at least this time u forgot ur retards caps in your home whit your mummy. Now, kid, go home and sleep is very late for a 12 years old child like u (mental age ofc).

 

[Ekydus]

Originally posted by peder
puppi puppi puppi puppi
daage add is best
gonki gonkidooor
reeber to use pruge
yanga danga diopa
run when u see zerks

looki looki nohands

My translation

puppy puppy puppy puppy (?)
damage add is best
gonki gonkidooor (sounds he makes hitting things?)
remember to use purge
yanga danga diopa (Sound he makes with the purge effects?)
run when you see bezerkers (obsessed with his zerker)

lookie lookie no hands (powerful zerker?)

Now from my translation, either he is VERY stupid, or he is putting it on and acting like this on a forum to make people laugh, which I have done on a few of your posts.

 

[AbPoon]

He's trying to copy the BORK BORK BORK guy off the vn boards, its getting kind of weak now tho

 

[exe]

Originally posted by AbPoon
Not true the Alb zerg was a problem before Mid had end regen never mind 3 savage 4 seer groups.

Albs just now have something to blaim it on, it used to be insta stun and mezz and zerkers, now its savages

100% agree

 

[Triskin]

Originally posted by Ekydus
We have LOTS of 50s. We have 3 frontiers.

we got 12 rvr zones , still we basically use 2

 

[Ekydus]

Well in truth we only use 2 Frontiers, meaning we only have 8 zones. The nearest battles will always take place at the 2 TKs with MGs. This means that people from these TKs will always head to the other TK in order to find battles. This means without a doubt that Emain is most popular and Odin's Gate is next. Breifine and Jamtland mountains are not only further out, but the players also have to compete with patrols, which would most likely not be neutral to them because they are more likely to belong to the frontier's realm. Not only this, but players may run through the seperate zones, to Uppland or the Gorge, only to be zerged with people coming out of the TK or for one or two grey con kills (they do not have to port if it is their own frontier remember). Now, people may feel that this is a waste of time and so may only ever venture further through desperation, say Emain and Odin's Gate are REALLY full. Now, if you think about it... Taking Hibernia's frontier as the example. Midgard and Albion have the 2 closest TKs. This is not their frontier, meaning they have the handicap of having to wait to port up to every 15 minutes. Where as, the Hibernians use this time to run to the TKs with MGs at the other side of the frontier to join the battle. This about evens the porting handicap out, although everyone knows how annoying running your own frontier is. So, add all of this together you can see why most people just go to these areas, in the end they are the most logical place to compete. However, people can always venture into other zones to take on the incoming members from the frontier's home realm. There are, however many that don't. Apart from time consuming, there are two main reasons that people don't. Firstly, pick-up groups. They on most levels cannot compete with the average GG and will 90% of the time need to be very lucky. They stay in the main traffic areas for safety and fun. Next, people because of the high traffic areas never felt the need to explore, ergo they have no idea how to get to the deeper zones.

As far as I can see the problem is not the fact we don't use the zones, it's the fact of the way that the realm frontiers have been designed. Hell, if the Albion frontier was better designed we'd use that more. This means we have two hot spot areas for the logical traffic; Emain and Odin's Gate. If you understand what I have stated, then you will likely notice that it is the same for all frontiers. If in the Hibernian frontier the hot spot is Emain. If in the Midgard frontier the hot spot is Odin's Gate. If in the Albion frontier the hot spot is Hadrians Wall. The problem of the way the realms are designed contributes more then you think to the traffic flow in a frontier. It'd be very interesting to see what the new frontiers aer going to look like, because either there will be the same hot spot areas, or people will just abandon Emain and Odin's Gate etc for the new areas, making the problem worse than before.

 

[Tualatin]

emain is Albion first frontier (our classic one moved a place, to 2nd), you mind them protecting it?

 

[Amadon]

Originally posted by September
So much fun...not. We had about equal numbers, but a lot of ppl who just started. I can get why everyone would rather zerg to get a few rp's, then get blasted to hell by stupid overpowered enchanters who do nothing but hit pbae and occasionally move if they happen to get hit before they can drop the person who god forbids targets them.

it's chanters' pbaoe that's overpowered?
but only chanters'? not spiritmasters' or ice wizards' or eldritches'?
because all realms have access to pretty similar pbaoe..

if you think pbaoe across the board is overpowered I'd agree with you

if you think chanters are overpowered because of heat debuff, heat based stun and heat based baseline nuke combined with pbaoe I'd agree with you

but saying chanters are overpowered because of pbaoe is..er.. something I can't really agree with

btw, to beat pbaoe, get your sorc (you do have one don't you?) to spam mez or lull on them depending on moc situation
or get your tanks to slam them or interrupt them with your taunt shout, or send a reaver into the middle of them

the tools are there to counter pbaoe.. you just can't do it easily by running in mindlessly (unless you're a savage )

 

[September]

1 isn't bad, it's when 3-4 band together in a grp (with some good support chars) you can't near them without getting mowed down. I guess it's just more frustrating for me as a melee char cuz I only have a instant taunt that's on a 30 second timer to interrupt, I have to run from caster in order to avoid biting the dust in 2-3 casts.

And yes I agree 1 isn't bad at all, I guess this might go for all realms, but chanters are the only character I fear in RvR simply because I can't get close to them. And even tho we can interrupt 1 or 2, if there's 1 more straying around the grp usually dies :/

Don't get me wrong I've been in a Fg against a FG of hibs who had 2 chanters (can't remember their RR anymore) and we encountered them 2 times and lost and won once. So it depends on situation/luck etc.

And still...chanters are the worst in this (maybe because there are a lot of them who are high rr?) I played Hibernia for the longest, followed by Alb/Midgard. As a hibby I faced lots of albs/middies and I can assure you the problem of casters wasn't half as bad.

But that's my thoughts I guess, 3 power relics doesn't do much for staying alive either

 

[Khalen]

Try your enemies side for once and see what some people mean. It's not just 1 class that's annoying it's the combination of certain things.

 

[brommix]

well i think Ekydus explained very nicely alot of the reasons why we all move like we do in RvR, I would like to add that sunday the problem was not an intentional Zerg where 4 or 5 fgs or more moved around together it was the fact that more than 150+ albs where in the same zone and if you have a working CG where stealthers report in sightings of mids and hibs the albs will just squash them in these cases since there will allways be maybe 2 4 or 6 fgs close, HB were moving around 2fgs all evening but alot of the times 1 or 2 other full groups joined in when we fought someone so i understand why hibs and mids gets frustrated but there just isnt alot to do about it, with the limited space there is to do rvr in.
I also think that Amedon got it quite right, its not the Pbaoe that makes the enchanter more than good, its the stun, the pet and the debuffs in hand of a capable player which makes them one of the best classes.

 

[Nugusta]

Originally posted by kin
I think most albs like to do fg rvr, but pretty hard against
3 savage/chanter teams backed up by insta cc.

Its not albs who create the zerk, it hibs and mids who do.

OMFG our fg got wtf pwned by 1fg mids!!!!

/as 1fg ubah roxxor gimpzor mids in emain, join my cg for bg1 rp's!

/ch comon guys get all your guildies into this...1fg mids ffs...90 wont do we need 152 albs

 

[ulke]

I see it like this :
my fg meets 1fg and loose "damn fun fight, lets go back and gank em !!"
my fg meets 2fg and loose "hmm, lets hope they are 1fg next time...."
my fg meets 4fg and loose "ok, this sucks, i'll log..."

have fun everyone :/

 

[ilienwyn]

Yes like when you press the button to select realm ingame it's the most important day of your life that decides if you are someone heroic or someone retard? We all do the same shit in various extents. Guess why i still don't have a RR5 char after so long? Cause rvr everytime bothers me more than it pleases me. The fun fights (for whatever reasons) are too little. Hope it improves but heck, new games coming soon, worth trying something different before it gets zerged there as well...

See you around and try have fun whatever happens...

 

[etcetra]

Originally posted by bracken_woodman
So because there is a zerg in emain means it's now acceptable to roam as 3fg in Odins. Ok now I got it. Guess I was just foolish thinking we might keep one area for 1fg action.

Well, those 3 groups got bashed in Emain, 3-4 times in a row - therefore they went Odin's, liek que?

Not like hibs are all that today, VGN has baf'd in our LA fights more than once today.(3?)

 

[etcetra]

Originally posted by ulke
I see it like this :
my fg meets 1fg and loose "damn fun fight, lets go back and gank em !!"
my fg meets 2fg and loose "hmm, lets hope they are 1fg next time...."
my fg meets 4fg and loose "ok, this sucks, i'll log..."

have fun everyone :/

And that happend, well - 1 fg and adds, 1 fg and adds(hibs), 9 fg's(albs).. YUS YUO PWN ALBS!