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[Alyssania]

Mainly ment for people crying about bug abuse in the bolg fight we had in broad about every 5 minutes. And also agree with you its a pain in the arse especially since I like to solo in keeps if no one of my friends on because its fun.

and nerf archers with bows using the freeking jumping in keeps for unfair advantage also while they at it if they ever planning to fix the keeps.

 

[Belisar]

Ooohh a post about shrooms - how original

 

[Boggy]

Let's have a little bet on whether Smellysox - as well as posting here - sent the location of a bugged shroom to GOA.

I'll be betting no. Anyone on yes?

Once again, for the slower people among you, every location where a shroom gets bugged is a seperate bug caused by the geometry of the scenery. If you don't report the specifics, it can't get fixed.

 

[Zede]

Let's have a little bet on whether Smellysox - as well as posting here - sent the location of a bugged shroom to GOA.

I'll be betting no. Anyone on yes?

Once again, for the slower people among you, every location where a shroom gets bugged is a seperate bug caused by the geometry of the scenery. If you don't report the specifics, it can't get fixed.

easy :

outside tower doors, to the left inside tower doors, to the right inside tower doors, by the stairs, on the stairs, on first floor, on 2nd floor, by the tower captain, on the oil, to left of oil, to right of oil, on the roof by the hook point, etc... etc... etc...

whole thing is fucked

 

[Belisar]

easy :

outside tower doors, to the left inside tower doors, to the right inside tower doors, by the stairs, on the stairs, on first floor, on 2nd floor, by the tower captain, on the oil, to left of oil, to right of oil, on the roof by the hook point, etc... etc... etc...

whole thing is fucked QUOTE]

So you are saying you can never ever get a target on a shroom ???

Or you are saying you cba to make a sensible or in any way helpful post as you are just another individual who wants to moan about a class ???

I wonder if people post enough unhelpful whine threads if anything will change ? Cannot see it somehow but of it makes you feel better I guess it has some value.

 

[Huntingtons]

nerf warlocks ;(

 

[Manisch Depressiv]

easy :

outside tower doors, to the left inside tower doors, to the right inside tower doors, by the stairs, on the stairs, on first floor, on 2nd floor, by the tower captain, on the oil, to left of oil, to right of oil, on the roof by the hook point, etc... etc... etc...

whole thing is fucked

So you are saying you can never ever get a target on a shroom ???

Or you are saying you cba to make a sensible or in any way helpful post as you are just another individual who wants to moan about a class ???

I wonder if people post enough unhelpful whine threads if anything will change ? Cannot see it somehow but of it makes you feel better I guess it has some value.

[/QUOTE]

2 screenshots for two sides of a tower, shrooms were placed at all 4 sides at some time.

Saying it's LoS issues and geometry flaws is one thing. It's a bad implemenation/design in any case and people exploit it.

 

[Gahn]

2 screenshots for two sides of a tower, shrooms were placed at all 4 sides at some time.

Saying it's LoS issues and geometry flaws is one thing. It's a bad implemenation/design in any case and people exploit it.[/

I'm quite sure if i go there and GT today it can be bugged, tomorrow u can hit em, wanna give it a try?
So u can move on from this fucked up idea that we exploit things ..

 

[Tareregion]

stuff

so if every place is bugged, where u propose we place shrooms?

 

[Belisar]

First of all well done for taking the time and trouble to take the screenies - at least you made an effort which is more than most of the moaners seem willing to do.

In the first I am not too sure which shroom you have targetted - does your UI leave targetted mobs etc in blue on the screen - as all of the ones I use turn the name to white. The shroom immediately in front of you is coloured blue and if that is the one targetted then it does seem to be bugged.

The second could just be a camera angle trick- quite a times I could see my target from my camera angle but not if you use the first person screen.

Not saying you are wrong - clearly I was not there and cannot see the action through your eyes - just wondering.

As for people exploiting it - well some do I am sure but I worry about the general 'all ani's are bug abusers' that these posts fall into. As I posted elsewhere I was shot (a number of times) by a scout while standing inside a tower (on the ground floor). I do not come here and yell about all scouts or any scouts being bug abusers, as far as I know he/she got lucky with a bug and I was the victim.

Not saying the ani issues are not annoying/frustrating but some people's mindless comments about the whole class are never going to get Mythic excited enough to make an effort to fix things.

 

[Aragyn]

Rightnow'ed it not long ago just to check:

Hi There
This is something we have repetedly reported to Mythic and we are waiting a fix for it. Keep an eye on patch notes to see what is coming up.

Yours sincerely,

 

[Manisch Depressiv]

2 screenshots for two sides of a tower, shrooms were placed at all 4 sides at some time.

Saying it's LoS issues and geometry flaws is one thing. It's a bad implemenation/design in any case and people exploit it.

First of all well done for taking the time and trouble to take the screenies - at least you made an effort which is more than most of the moaners seem willing to do.

In the first I am not too sure which shroom you have targetted - does your UI leave targetted mobs etc in blue on the screen - as all of the ones I use turn the name to white. The shroom immediately in front of you is coloured blue and if that is the one targetted then it does seem to be bugged.

The second could just be a camera angle trick- quite a times I could see my target from my camera angle but not if you use the first person screen.

Not saying you are wrong - clearly I was not there and cannot see the action through your eyes - just wondering.

As for people exploiting it - well some do I am sure but I worry about the general 'all ani's are bug abusers' that these posts fall into. As I posted elsewhere I was shot (a number of times) by a scout while standing inside a tower (on the ground floor). I do not come here and yell about all scouts or any scouts being bug abusers, as far as I know he/she got lucky with a bug and I was the victim.

Not saying the ani issues are not annoying/frustrating but some people's mindless comments about the whole class are never going to get Mythic excited enough to make an effort to fix things.

I have the shrooms targeted that are right in front of me. Since the shrooms are stacked they are either flashing and overwriting the white selection or I lose the target while trying to cast a spell on it, not sure, will check next time.

It's not the odd camera angle bug (I know that one), I moved around the shrooms from all angles and they were not targetable.

I'm not saying all Animists are bug abusers I've met some Animists that have put up a good challenge and were playing fair. But casting untargetable shrooms for two hours s just too much and leads to angry comments by people who are the victims of this. Only died 2 times this night to the Animist, had good fun and RPs beside it, yet it made the group disband and log.

If the bugs are fixed I don't see any reason to moan about Animists anylonger as there are good tools to go vs them on Albion, e.g. Heretic monster rezz/RR5 or chain interrupt on the Animist helps a lot.

 

[Cromcruaich]

though all this repetitive whining is a little dull, i must admit animist p*ss me off quite often. The classic is that they just spam all their dd shrooms that then procede to break every mez and root that people are using for crowd control. The other thing is in siege defence situations where it just leads to standoffs for hours and hours because no mid or alb will come close for fear of the massive shroom field in front of them. And finally, they leech all my rp's!

 

[Aoln]

all they need to do is add a second LOS check for pets like they have for everything else ._.

 

[AngelHeal]

so.... when will you mids / albs actually start killing shrooms hm? instead of running awway from em

 

[Septina]

so.... when will you mids / albs actually start killing shrooms hm? instead of running awway from em

moron.....

 

[belxavier]

so.... when will you mids / albs actually start killing shrooms hm? instead of running awway from em

when u realise its not always possible hmmm ?

yes sometimes they can and will be killed (let loose my mjolnir thane xD)........... other times u stood there like a fucking mong getting raped...damn no los cant hit em here, magic idea shit move to left/right <insert random dir not gonna affect los 99% time> and try again while chain nuked huhu?!

 

[Boggy]

But casting untargetable shrooms for two hours s just too much and leads to angry comments by people who are the victims of this

What I'd like to point out (AGAIN) is that the animist does not know they are bugged. In your own images, you'll see shrooms have been cast in other places. In a keep fight there are shrooms everywhere and the caster GETS NO MESSAGE to suggest someone is having trouble attacking them.

So I can sympathise 100% with your frustration at the bugged shrooms, but calling animists names and accusing them of doing it on purpose is just not helpful or warranted.

 

[Cromcruaich]

other times u stood there like a fucking mong getting raped

What a pleasant turn of phrase

 

[belxavier]

What a pleasant turn of phrase

why thanks xD only use such terms in reference to shrooms (which is rarely) as prob can see from most my other posts

 

[Kami]

all they need to do is add a second LOS check for pets like they have for everything else ._.

Isn't LOS checked by the server on shrooms? if so you'll end up with a ton of lag every time they cast if there's enough animists in the area. Chances are thats why they don't already have 2 LOS checks.


I have a level 50 verdant animist on Hib/excal, never found a bugged shroom spot so I can only suggest that those using them have done so because they don't realise the first time. After that though it's abuse and should result in bans. I don't want my class nerfed but it's hardly fair sticking shrooms where people can't kill/CC them.

On the other hand, stop being retarded enough to get in range of them, they only have a short range spell ffs. Hardly difficult to avoid

 

[MaditioN]

spet1na pwns the thread!

 

[Dreami]

I want to hump your avatar :<

Mine as well? David needs it.

 

[MaditioN]

oh and ye +1(fix los on pets xd)

 

[BigE]

can we have a list of shroom whiners so we can /ignore then?

Pretty much all of albion and midgard I would guess !

 

[Smellysox]

DONT
READ
THE
POSTS
THEN
M8!!!

Im sick and fed up with morons whining about whine posts all the goddamn time.

Thank you, that is all

prawned inrl

 

[Boggy]

There are several solutions to the shroom problem (not just the bugs but the balance issues in keep fights) that have been put forward by animists in the past.

My opinion is they should remove shrooms from the game or at reduce the number that can be cast to something like 3 or 5. Then they compensate the animist by giving them mezz/stun or a mobile pet or bolts.

However, I'd guess changes like that to a classes abilities would entail large amounts of work, which they can't do while they are adding expansion after expansion.