Global Warming strikes again!

[Jeros]

I would argue its a soft science much like economics or psychology - the reason I would link the three is because they all deal with complex subjects which can never be reduced to single factors and are thus not great for traditional experimentation.

What you tend to get are correlations - often quite weak ones that people have jumped to big conclusions from.

Psychology is tough because the human mind really is complex and you can never really isolate behaviour down to one cause.

Economics again is a set of massively complex factors - if an economists prediction ever comes true its generally a fluke

You have absolutely no idea of the subject then.

I am doing Geology myself which is an earth science. It consists of mathematics, chemistry, physics, geophysics and biology. The social impacts are secondary to the hard science.

I dare you to go up to a maths, chem, physics or bio student or professor and say they are part of a soft science

I DARE you!

 

[rynnor]

Its also filled to the brim of very average scientists on an easy grant, all they need to do is agree that its happening and they get money thrown at them, its human nature.

I dont think its that bad but it became clear that linking your work to Global Warming lead to a much better chance of being published in decent journals (which is pretty much the aim of all scientists) and that would naturally tend to skew things.

Humans are prone to fashions in all things and Science is no exception.

 

[rynnor]

You have absolutely no idea of the subject then.

I am doing Geology myself which is an earth science. It consists of mathematics, chemistry, physics, geophysics and biology. The social impacts are secondary to the hard science.

So what - the claims all come from trying to stretch principles established in proper sciences so as to fit a climate theory.

Pretty much everything we ever do has a grounding in Physics since it attempts to explain the material universe

It still all comes down to trying to apply a finding from classical physics (the greenhouse effect) to a massively complex system like the climate.

 

[Jeros]

So what - the claims all come from trying to stretch principles established in proper sciences so as to fit a climate theory.

Thats amazingly insulting to anyone learning or working in Geosciences, like you know, the nice people who explain how to make buildings resistant to earthquakes or why its a bad idea to drink from certain waters. But whatever, believe what you want to believe.

Pretty much everything we ever do has a grounding in Physics since it attempts to explain the material universe

It still all comes down to trying to apply a finding from classical physics (the greenhouse effect) to a massively complex system like the climate.

Yes it is massively complex, and we will never have all the answers, however what we CAN do is look at the evidence, look at the earths past through Geology, and see that something is amiss.

People don't seem to grasp who fragile the system is, hell if enough volcanoes went off at once we could be wiped out. The records are all there, in the rocks below, frozen in time, from long before we were around.

But as has already been stated in this thread, we are fucked anyway, we are just speeding things up.

 

[rynnor]

Thats amazingly insulting to anyone learning or working in Geosciences, like you know, the nice people who explain how to make buildings resistant to earthquakes or why its a bad idea to drink from certain waters. But whatever, believe what you want to believe.

Lol - if you want to tar all the earth sciences with the brush of climatology failure be my guest but its a big stretch from my comments but you seem determined to be a martyr

 

[Jeros]

Lol - if you want to tar all the earth sciences with the brush of climatology failure be my guest but its a big stretch from my comments but you seem determined to be a martyr

Well that was the impression you gave, i did ask you in regards to "Earth Science"

 

[Jail Bait]

Co2 is not bad because plants grow better when Co2 is higher (greenhouses add Co2)

It can get much warmer before I start complaining

It is the sun...... Stupid

 

[Raven]

The problem is we are destroying the CO2>O2 power houses, the rainforests and the greenland to make room for low carbon fuel and "sustainable" housing. Its a crock of shit. Governments are making it worse by pandering to privately funded science that tells them to clear more land, build more houses and plant more expensive and virtually energy useless plants. Biofuels are causing food shortages and forcing food prices up, they decimate the natural habitat of a huge variety of plants and animals. There is a lot of things unknown about most plants in the forests, new drugs and cures are often found but we are flushing it all away in the hope of reversing something that may or may not be caused by us.

The one and only way we will halt humanities affect on global warming is to control our population, that's not going to happen.

 

[Scouse]

I wouldn't listen to rynnor, Jeros. He's not done a seconds worth of science in his life.

Well, maybe some gh3y "combined science" course at GCSE, but that's about it

 

[Jail Bait]

The problem is we are destroying the CO2>O2 power houses, the rainforests and the greenland to make room for low carbon fuel and "sustainable" housing. Its a crock of shit. Governments are making it worse by pandering to privately funded science that tells them to clear more land, build more houses and plant more expensive and virtually energy useless plants. Biofuels are causing food shortages and forcing food prices up, they decimate the natural habitat of a huge variety of plants and animals. There is a lot of things unknown about most plants in the forests, new drugs and cures are often found but we are flushing it all away in the hope of reversing something that may or may not be caused by us.

You live in the city don't you ..... you Tree hugger

The one and only way we will halt humanities affect on global warming is to control our population, that's not going to happen.

Begin the cull with yourself

 

[Raven]

You live in the city don't you ..... you Tree hugger

Begin the cull with yourself

No, I live in the sticks actually. Well, nearest town is about 5 miles away.

 

[Jail Bait]

No, I live in the sticks actually. Well, nearest town is about 5 miles away.

How close is your nearest neighbour?

 

[Jeros]

Co2 is not bad because plants grow better when Co2 is higher (greenhouses add Co2)

It can get much warmer before I start complaining

It is the sun...... Stupid

However plants give OFF Co2 when under temperature or water based strain.

I cant remember the reason off hand tho.

 

[Jail Bait]

However plants give OFF Co2 when under temperature or water based strain.

I cant remember the reason off hand tho.

So why is global warming BAD them?

 

[rynnor]

I wouldn't listen to rynnor, Jeros. He's not done a seconds worth of science in his life.

Well, maybe some gh3y "combined science" course at GCSE, but that's about it

Ah - where have you been all my life Mr Ad Hominem attacker

Cheap as usual mr scouse - pretty much as I've come to expect.

 

[Wazzerphuk]

So why is global warming BAD them?

Didn't you know change is bad, particularly change that might affect us MIGHTY HUMANS?

 

[Talyn]

Looks like Brian Cox annoyed a few people -

Apparently, if you say climate change skeptics are nobbers, you get loads of angry tweets

From his Twitter feed...

 

[Bodhi]

Looks like Brian Cox annoyed a few people -



From his Twitter feed...

But that sounds quite plausible. If you act as sanctimoniously as your typical Climate Change Fanboy, most normal people will get upset and start calling you an AIDS ridden faggot. Especially if the personal crusade the sanctimoniuos one gets very rich from makes the rest of us poor cost we have to pay 1.20 a litre for something we need TO GET TO FUCKING WORK.

Cox, Monbiot etc, all ***** of the highest order. Spending the next 40 years of their lives getting buttraped by Ronaldus Jerimius in prison then the rest of eternity with Satan doing the same thing would be too good for them. Socialist *****.

 

[Scouse]

Lol. You intellectually agree with the balance of science, the evidence of which says climate change is real, and you are labelled a socalist *somethingbad* by Bodhi!

Religious objection much? You 'nobber'

 

[Assi]

If only there was a way to cap those nasty volcanoes. They really hate the planet.

Perhaps we could convince a certain group of people to jump in and fill these evil unnatural craters of lava.

I don't know who would possibly be gullable to kill themselves for something like saving the Earth, but if we said every person who jumped into a volcano got 72 virgins......

 

[Jail Bait]

Didn't you know change is bad, particularly change that might affect us MIGHTY HUMANS?

The American like Change

Ask them about their last election sometime LOL

 

[Wazzerphuk]

Lolz