Gimped Infils?

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bellum

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You need a lvl50 buffer aswell.

You can be assure your enemies has one.
 
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witte-

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Originally posted by -RG-Jaond
Yeah sounds realy fun stun my enemy for 9sec and just beat the hell out of him....

Like SB's did? :p
 
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-RG-Jaond

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Wittor wittor i would love to stun you for 9s but im afraid i cant and never will be able to do that my friend :(
 
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Aybabtu

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Originally posted by -RG-Jaond
Wittor wittor i would love to stun you for 9s but im afraid i cant and never will be able to do that my friend :(

But you did beat the shit out of your enemys :)
 
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Appollo

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Originally posted by Nazghul-
Why? Don't you like to pwn every SB with your DF skills?

Dont pwn every SB, and the 1's i do isnt always with DF, so.....?
 
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-RG-Jaond

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Where are you Aybabt? havent seen you for ages :(
 
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Aybabtu

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Originally posted by -RG-Jaond
Where are you Aybabt? havent seen you for ages :(

Redoing my char completely, SC, RA's and Spec, but might be a week since im going to Spain next week :D
 
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Silenzio

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mmm

allwsy use greater enervating on main hand...

try to pa if u can but give up if u see all thos attempt r gettin u to deth... (the time u try to position ur self right in front could be the time ur enemy use to pa u)

with a lvl 32 bb only use gddr only for PA/BS2, than switch fast to 2 long dirk or anything faster than a gddrapier...

an inf hit less hard than a sb... but faster... so more times...

make sure u have atleast dodger 2 (better is 3)

dont stand still pressing styles key... move side arround throught and strafe... u r enemy will do that...

i see u have 28 dw... too low to take real advantage on his style... so dont rely on it just good for swing freq...
Harmsting is ur friend

if u runaway u r dead (no defence no evade on ur bk)

Dont Be Greedy! wait ... wait more... than go... rush is the best way to spend more time on pad

sometimes walking bkward in a fight help (ur enemy cant strafe, he can lose a swing... u could get some benefit by dot ecc)

try to know the rr ov ur enemy realm i meen
at rr 2/3 u can easly kill a Flammen Vakten but hardly a Flammen Herra ( i jump what ever moves and just after the fight try to remeber what is or not :) )

if u r attakking a clas with ip save some endurance and dont spam...

choose wisely ur prey n than the poison to use

if u can, have more than 3 weap in ur bkpk allready poisoned

crafted magical poison work good

use potion if u can

if ur prey is a healing class use disese...

if one ov ur enemy is a healing class kill him first

use mouse n kboard (both) and both hand to play :)

if u have purge remeber, that it will remove all the negative effect on u not only stun / mez ... but dot and debuff too



dont know what more...
maybe mmm

level bit more ur bb atleast 8 more lvls ;P

and remember , thees days if u attak an hib... be sure not less than 5 others r near n rdy to jump u....


bb
 
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old.CrazyMuppet

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Redips, a buffed assassin with your spec should do nicely.

Playing an assassin well in rvr takes some time, patience and experience.

You will get there though, according to everyone you seem to have a win button... just spam that all the time and you'll be fine.:D

But seriously, i see you have 35 stealth... i don't know your realmrank but when you're RR1/2 with 35 stealth, enemy assassins will spot you before you spot them and they'll have the advantage. It's all a matter of getting to RR5 asap with your spec.

And try have duel sessions with guildies to get a feel for when you should use CD on enemies, or when to wait for a possible dragonfang opportunity.
 
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old.CrazyMuppet

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Originally posted by Silenzio


allwsy use greater enervating on main hand...

Unless your opponent is a Ranger or a Hunter, in which case you'll want a snare poison on main hand.

Often i do snares on casters as well... cloth casters because snare+debuff is more useful than debuff+dot. But especially use snares on those that have end regen running.

with a lvl 32 bb only use gddr only for PA/BS2, than switch fast to 2 long dirk or anything faster than a gddrapier...

I don't really see the correlation between the level of the buffbot and the choice of weapons.

make sure u have atleast dodger 2 (better is 3)

If you have a buffbot, dodger doesn't need to be on the top of your list ;) i myself focused on actives first (purge/vanish) and then started building on passives.

dont stand still pressing styles key... move side arround throught and strafe... u r enemy will do that...

When you strafe in combat, you often miss... and it says so too...

Enemies (smart ones) will try to move inside you *just* after you evade them... to avoid getting Dragonfanged.

if u runaway u r dead (no defence no evade on ur bk)

If you see the fight going bad, save a little endurance, sprint away and Vanish. (if you have it ;)). Works nicely on non-assasin classes, but don't try it on casters, since locked spells will uncover you after you vanish (bug).

sometimes walking bkward in a fight help (ur enemy cant strafe, he can lose a swing... u could get some benefit by dot ecc)

Works very well, especially for hunters that try position themselves in a way so their pet hits you in the back. You wanna face the pet *and* the hunter at all times.

if one ov ur enemy is a healing class kill him first

You do NOT want to attack a healer class that's in a FG unless you're in a group with healers yourself. Everytime i see a infil go for a enemy healer, he gets rushed and decked by 3 savages. Same goes for druids, they run to their chanters and it's dead infil.

Wait for the healers to get interrupted/attacked and attack the (cloth) casters or other support classes. Never ever forget that a solo infil doesnt have the heal support that FG's have.

Last advice: never stand too close to non-stealther albs... AoE spells are a stealthers worst nightmare
 
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old.Emma

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Do what i did ;p

Roll an infil have some fun, when they get nurfed head back to your beloved SB..

Best fun i`ve had in ages is with my infil, reminds me of my SB before they got gutted.
 
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Brylle Madness

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Originally posted by Whisperess
You forget that we don't get 2.5 specpoints per level. We -can't- spec 50 base without giving other things up.

My spec: ( RR5 spec )

35 stealth
44 axe
44 CS
35 envenom
13 LA

( yes, I'm a critblade )

If I had 2.5 specpoints per level I would go:

35 stealth
50 Axe
44 CS
35 envenom
22 LA

Notice the difference?


Albs never look at it that way...
 
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Nebel

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Originally posted by -RG-Jaond
duskwave.........

And about fotm its my thane you talking about? Cause my savage does only camp df farming diamonds uber booring in rvr /assist dead target /assist dead target :sleeping:

Like playing an infil I guess evade and df, gameover for sb realy fun! :great:

Whats Duskwave gotta do with the conversation here?

...and i´m sure all the thrust-Infs use DF only to farm mobs too.... honestly.

Honestly... i bet your Thane was your first char... ALL others u name in your sig are or were at some time FOTMs.... i don´t care at all.. but yelling at others for rolling FOTMs is kinda rich, huh?
 
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-RG-Jaond

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Originally posted by Nebel
Whats Duskwave gotta do with the conversation here?

...and i´m sure all the thrust-Infs use DF only to farm mobs too.... honestly.

Honestly... i bet your Thane was your first char... ALL others u name in your sig are or were at some time FOTMs.... i don´t care at all.. but yelling at others for rolling FOTMs is kinda rich, huh?

I feel sorry for your mother
 
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Nebel

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Originally posted by -RG-Jaond
I feel sorry for your mother

ROFLMAO... what a GOOD, reasonable comment... thats really all u can contribute to the discussion?... well.. THEN im sorry for u...
 
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-RG-Jaond

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Originally posted by Nebel
ROFLMAO... what a GOOD, reasonable comment... thats really all u can contribute to the discussion?... well.. THEN im sorry for u...

Look at last week rp / total rp on my savage and say me how much i play my fotm char :)

And please tell me when my sm was fotm can realy see when, and my sb? rolled him when I was waiting for lair list with my thane 1.5 years ago. So fotm fo and get a clue you little zergling boy.
 
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Nebel

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Originally posted by -RG-Jaond
Look at last week rp / total rp on my savage and say me how much i play my fotm char :)

And please tell me when my sm was fotm can realy see when, and my sb? rolled him when I was waiting for lair list with my thane 1.5 years ago. So fotm fo and get a clue you little zergling boy.

ah... at least u try again with some real statements....
okay, and since u claim u only play chars that give u a challenge (overpowered ones are boring, right?): i´m sure u stopped playing your SB while the LA-bug was in, ye?

... little zergling boy?
Hehe.. u simply CANT avoid a stupid comment in each post, aye?
 
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-RG-Jaond

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Will always play my sb overpowerd or not, but sure if savage get stealth i will maybe try it some
 
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Nebel

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Originally posted by -RG-Jaond
zip.....Cause my savage does only camp df farming diamonds uber booring in rvr /assist dead target /assist dead target :sleeping: .....zip

This sounded like... i might have missunderstood tho
 
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-RG-Jaond

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Savage is an goddamn booring class belive me, sb is not
 
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Nebel

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i do believe ya there... but why is that?... is it boring in itself (class-concept, styles, animations, or whatever) or is it caus its too easy to kill with it and as such not challenging?
 
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-RG-Jaond

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Originally posted by Nebel
i do believe ya there... but why is that?... is it boring in itself (class-concept, styles, animations, or whatever) or is it caus its too easy to kill with it and as such not challenging?

TBH they dont have stealth
 
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Silenzio

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Originally posted by old.CrazyMuppet
Unless your opponent is a Ranger or a Hunter, in which case you'll want a snare poison on main hand.

Often i do snares on casters as well... cloth casters because snare+debuff is more useful than debuff+dot. But especially use snares on those that have end regen running.

who said not? off hand poison most ov the time goes off in the same hit ov main hand... 3 weapon = not less than 3 poison


Originally posted by old.CrazyMuppet

I don't really see the correlation between the level of the buffbot and the choice of weapons.
easy with a lvl 32 bb he will be below 250 qui
that will make a gddrapier far to slow than a long dirk...
i played wit a lvl 35 bb and inf with +10 qui at creation agu qui 2 =243 qui ,
he should be arround this too thinking the bb is full enhanc
n what i see is full buffed with a gddr u can do quite good
but still not... overalll against ns whos r faster than u :)
if he got no qui at creation make him 233 quickness this is rllyslow
that my experience ... if i get in trouble sometimes just need to switch on faster weap.... with purp buff long dirk became pretty weak.



Originally posted by old.CrazyMuppet

If you have a buffbot, dodger doesn't need to be on the top of your list ;) i myself focused on actives first (purge/vanish) and then started building on passives.
with dodg3 and top buff u could get near to evade cap
i like to evade :) done test here too n the difference is noticiable


Originally posted by old.CrazyMuppet

When you strafe in combat, you often miss... and it says so too...

Enemies (smart ones) will try to move inside you *just* after you evade them... to avoid getting Dragonfanged..
u only miss styled attak :)
but thers a way to get some stile in strafe.... (not pure strafe buw fw/bk strf left fw/bk strf right) only way to kill a hard strafeing enemy is to strafe too :) killed some ppl "unstyled" this way...

enemy even try to walk bk after an evade....


Originally posted by old.CrazyMuppet

If you see the fight going bad, save a little endurance, sprint away and Vanish. (if you have it ;)). Works nicely on non-assasin classes, but don't try it on casters, since locked spells will uncover you after you vanish (bug).
maybe ive allways been focused on stealther vs stealther :)

but if ur a runner a couple ov potion can help u alot doin this...
just remeber lot ov clas have dd n other sort ov insta
that vanish or not will hit u... even a thrown dagger can hit u...



Originally posted by old.CrazyMuppet

You do NOT want to attack a healer class that's in a FG unless you're in a group with healers yourself. Everytime i see a infil go for a enemy healer, he gets rushed and decked by 3 savages. Same goes for druids, they run to their chanters and it's dead infil.

Wait for the healers to get interrupted/attacked and attack the (cloth) casters or other support classes. Never ever forget that a solo infil doesnt have the heal support that FG's have.

here again, maybe is my play stile but... generaly as inf i dont attak fg :) mainly soloing id go for duo or single
that is more rare now but kinda often some times ago in odin...
were u could find a warden or a bard ecc running solo... or with n other class...
Originally posted by old.CrazyMuppet

Last advice: never stand too close to non-stealther albs... AoE spells are a stealthers worst nightmare
true... but sometimes if fun to be mezzed in stealth ;P
and none wack u

've good day
 
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redips-redrum

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Aye

Aye, thanks y'all. Greatly appreciated.



Sincerely, Redips of the Dark Predators
 
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Aybabtu

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Originally posted by Silenzio

with dodg3 and top buff u could get near to evade cap
i like to evade :) done test here too n the difference is noticiable

afaik SC armor, Aug dex/quick2, 50 buffbot, evade 7 and dodger 1 should make you hit cap, throw in a str/con debuff on the enemy and it'll raise even more.

Anyway the 9 points you use on getting dodger 2 and 3 is not needed and could be used better
 
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-RG-Jaond

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Originally posted by Aybabtu
afaik SC armor, Aug dex/quick2, 50 buffbot, evade 7 and dodger 1 should make you hit cap, throw in a str/con debuff on the enemy and it'll raise even more.

Anyway the 9 points you use on getting dodger 2 and 3 is not needed and could be used better

Dodger1 is not enough when str/con debuffed, atleast not for sb
 
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Aybabtu

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Originally posted by -RG-Jaond
Dodger1 is not enough when str/con debuffed, atleast not for sb

afaik it was an infil that asked
 
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-RG-Jaond

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Originally posted by Aybabtu
afaik it was an infil that asked

But still str/con debuff lower hes wpn skill, not as much as an sbs but still some so then he maybe dont get evade cap.
 
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Aybabtu

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Originally posted by -RG-Jaond
But still str/con debuff lower hes wpn skill, not as much as an sbs but still some so then he maybe dont get evade cap.

that will only happen when he fights other assassin's
 

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