Germans are miffed

oblimov

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i think saying no one in england is a bit of general statement m8

and giving that theres quite a large amount of support for the BNP and combat 18 etc in england its a wrong statement

Dont get me wrong im not saying 100% are against germanys im just saying theres enuff to make people notice it

I personally blame the media, and i dont think they poke fun btw, i remember one of the games against the german national team and the sun got a brass band to play outside their window and called it war of britain and shit like that
 

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Using the BNP and C18 as examples is a bit stupid considering those kinds of people worship Hitler and the Nazis and probably have Swastikas hanging from their bedroom walls. I don't see how they would dislike the Germans in any way. If anything they would like them more than British people?

As for The Sun, they just want to publicise their paper. I don't think they give a shit what people think of the Germans, as long as they continue to sell papers. Just because they decided to get a band to play somewhere, that hardly represents the English population's view of Germany.
 

oblimov

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aye true lol got confused :p

i meant the english dont come across as a foreigner friendly bunch coz of those groups :p

the amount of times ive been on holiday and felt i should apologise to the local barkeeper/waiter about the english and their "bloody foreign muck" attitude is ridiculous and is the main reason i take offence at being called english by mistake

edit: oh and the sun didnt do that stint with any other teams except argentina who ...surprise surprise were another country they went to war with/still hold grudges with
 

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Must....resist...argh! Warnung! Warnung!

Ich habe etwas Haß in Richtung zu Deutschland, aber sein innen eine freundliche Weise, Schuld fußball und wenn sie unsere Strände während des Sommer..gesamten ein nettes Land und Berlin wirklich Felsen eindringen :p
 

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Aye ya right there rookiescot, i am a Celtic fan hehe
 

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Dillinja said:
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I think that the German foreign minister was being a bit stupid by bringing this up in the first place.

Agree, there was no need bringing this up. Unfortunately our foreign minister is the most popular politician in Germany (i dont know why tbh) and all media reported about this.

I would say there is not even 1 german who take newspapers like Sun really serious, most headlines seems just funny special during football championchips
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Job

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Anyway, if you want someone who REALLY hates the Germans....ask the Dutch.

My experience of Germans, yes I've been there, is they are more traditional than the Brits, they respect authority more and will join up to follow a leader in group with glee, whereas your average Brit is like 'who put you in charge?'

On the Autobahn a sign read 'reduce speed to 50kmh' every last jack one of them slammed on to exactly 50.
You average Brit 'may' slightly back off to 80kmh, or just keep going till he can see the problem for himself.(Italians/French speed up)
They're just cultural differences, the Germans and the Brits are closer than any group in Europe, we all came from the same tribe.

I was in Malta and a coach full of Germans pulled up , all ages gathered round some old guy with a huge handlebar moustache and followed him round the sites, listening to his every word, later that day a coach full of Brits pulls up, some guy shouts 'this way' and every one fucked off in different directions.
 

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My favourite German story, I was up in Inuvik, which is the highest Eskimo/Innuit town in Canada (yes job gets around).
The local hotel is run by a pissed old German guy called Walter, he was made up when 4 Englandeers walked in and invited us for schnappes in his house.
Anyway his walls are covered in war pictures..U-Boats, Messerschmits, Tiger tanks, he starts harping on about how we should never have fought each other, and how we could have done so much together.
He was quite obviously on the run from some Nazi hunters and was planning Third Reich2 in his head. trying to be a nice as pie, but knocking back Schnappes like it was lemonade, I decided to stand up to find the toilet and his act snapped, he jumped up wild with rage and started shouting.

'Zit down vile I am talking!!!'

He realised his gaff and apologised, it was like something out of Dr Strangeglove.
 

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im dutch, dutch people dont really hate germans (only when it comes to football :rolleyes: ) but most of us find it extremely annoying when a german comes up to us and starts talking german because "they are dutch they get it in school and can understand it anyway", i hate the kind of mentality, either talk dutch or english or PISS OFF, thats why i will never talk in german another german as long as im not in their country (and not on the net either, learn english ffs)

same goes for the french...

was funny tho yesterday, was playing a game and a french guy got pissed at me and started spamming for 10 minutes:
"English mad cow!!!!"
"English mad cow!!!!"
"English mad cow!!!!"
"English mad cow!!!!"

"I'm not english"

"Yes you are"

"English mad cow!!!!"
"English mad cow!!!!"
"English mad cow!!!!"

whats up with the french and their 'mad cows' anyway, not the first time i heard it? :rolleyes:
 

Job

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Well you see to us Brits the Dutch language sounds just like German for the first ten minutes.

I had a pissed Dutch guy asking me in Dutch, who won the world cup, I replied 'I don't speak German'
he and all his friends went ballistic, 'we are not Germans!!! they screeched anything bit that!!'

Of course it was just pissed football talk.
 

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Some Frenchie on Prydwen called me a rossbeef. My heart was split asunder. Really.
 

Robot

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lol job, some funny shit that :D

Regarding the Dutch hating the Germans, i remember during Euro 2004, Van Nistleroy said he would loved to beat the Germans as revenge for holland during WW2 ;)
 

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Can't say that I know anyone who hates Germans, probably only reason Brits go on about the war is because was something we have tended to win at, and of course if you're in an argument with a German it tends to be such an easy way to put them on the back foot its hard to resist sometimes (cos some of em are just sooo damn apologetic about it, as if they personally took part. Though tbh always found the French to be rather more touchy on the subject).

No different really from you'll come across the occasional yank who will pull the old "We bailed you out in WW2" or mention how they kicked the Brits out of the US as a windup. Nothing to get wound up about.

Remember Tony Benn getting all preachy a few years back, saying how we should all be ashamed and beating ourselves up about slavery and pay reparations now, fraid not old son, I've never owned any so got nothing to apologise for and if you want to start handing out the cash use your own m8 :kissit:
 

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I blame Hasslehoff.

BTW, why DO Germans love him so?

<still bewildered by this>
 

Binky the Bomb

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Morchaoron said:
whats up with the french and their 'mad cows' anyway, not the first time i heard it? :rolleyes:

There still pissed because of the mad cow disease crisis when they had to destory all the imported beef back in the 90's. Apparently, there still mad that we still charged them a bill for the meat in the first place and didn't pay it back. They've made it back in booze cruises since, so they can't fucking complain. The french (especially the younger generation) seem to act like the guy who always got 'bog-washed' in school, and ended up getting even with there tormentors by hurling abuse whilst running away. At least, thats how it apears to me.
 

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Saying your offended when people mistake you for a Brit, and going on about you apologise for Brits behaviour and then complaining about generalising and the Brit's "grudges" against the Germans = lolyoufuckingtard.

Iirc didn't the last mad cow disease problem originate from France?

Americans ...as much as both sides will protest, are technically English, as are alot of Australians. So how they kicked the "Brits" out of America I will never know, considering the majority of them are descendants of the Brits.

Football is largely similar to religion in the amount of problems it causes. Ban both imo. :(
 

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didnt the english use australia as some sort of dumphole for criminals?

so technically all australians are crooks? ;o
 

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Yes, the "australians" as they are known today, were the jail populous of Britain...however, the original inhabitants of Australia, obviously weren't.
 

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oblimov said:
a think a lot of the bitterness over british and germans is probably the fact that many british feel hard done to by the fact that germany lost the war yet now are way more successful than the uk
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That's because we (US/UK) rebuilt the country after the war. My grandad once told me he worked for a UK company the was building brand new Lathe Machines destined for new German factories. The machines they built them with were from the 1920's. The War cost the UK a third of its entire wealth. Mostly paid to the US for Armaments. The rebuilding of Germany after the war was also at a high cost to the country.

Should point out that I have no problem with the Germans at all. Several friends who live in Hamburg. I try to visit at least once a year and always have a great time. Great beer and great people.
 

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Jeeves said:
Americans ...as much as both sides will protest, are technically English, as are alot of Australians. So how they kicked the "Brits" out of America I will never know, considering the majority of them are descendants of the Brits.

Most of Americans aren't descendant of the Brits...
Don't forget the largest part of the actual US wasn't english but spanish (west coast with California,etc), then french (Luisiana from New Orleans to Illinois (Chicago) ) then English (New England + Florida). So ok 150-100 years ago most of Americans were descendants of the Brits (before the expention to the western coast) but it's absolutly not the case anymore today. It's not as Australia from this point of view.

Jeeves said:
Iirc didn't the last mad cow disease problem originate from France?

The origin of this disease has been proved to come from England.
 

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Morchaoron said:
didnt the english use australia as some sort of dumphole for criminals?

How times change, emmigration to Australia is now virtualy impossible, if you have a criminal record.
In years gone past, it would have guaranteed a one way ticket down under. ;)
 

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Ning said:
Most of Americans aren't descendant of the Brits...
Don't forget the largest part of the actual US wasn't english but spanish (west coast with California,etc), then french (Luisiana from New Orleans to Illinois (Chicago) ) then English (New England + Florida). So ok 150-100 years ago most of Americans were descendants of the Brits (before the expention to the western coast) but it's absolutly not the case anymore today. It's not as Australia from this point of view.



The origin of this disease has been proved to come from England.


Umm, ok, so all of the descendents of the British colonists who went over there and fought the war of independence, built the country and turned it into a democracy just suddenly disappeared into thin air? Your post doesn't make any sense. A very large percentage of Americans do have roots in Britain and Ireland, whether they like it or not.

As for the Mad Cow thing, who really cares what the French say/think anyway? They can moan all they want about how our beef might be infected with killer diseases etc. etc., but they have an annoying habit of poking their big noses into pretty much everything that goes on around the world, even when it's none of their business, so I doubt anyone takes them seriously anymore anyway.
 

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Dillinja said:
Umm, ok, so all of the descendents of the British colonists who went over there and fought the war of independence, built the country and turned it into a democracy just suddenly disappeared into thin air? Your post doesn't make any sense.
A very large percentage of Americans do have roots in Britain and Ireland, whether they like it or not.

My post makes sense. It's just you who can't understand. I've already answered to your question in my post : "So ok 150-100 years ago most of Americans were descendants of the Brits".
These british american didn't disappeared, it's just that :
1) other europeans came after the independence when the USA wasn't a british colony anymore.
2) the USA expended to the west including the french and spanish territories (and their inhabitants).

BTW I don't consider the Irish as "Brits".

Dillinja said:
As for the Mad Cow thing, who really cares what the French say/think anyway? They can moan all they want about how our beef might be infected with killer diseases etc. etc., but they have an annoying habit of poking their big noses into pretty much everything that goes on around the world, even when it's none of their business, so I doubt anyone takes them seriously anymore anyway.

Whatever you may think, any country (France or any other country) has the right to poke its noses into cases of disease in a country that could be extended to the rest of the world. The boycott against British beef was worldwide just for your information.
 

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Ning said:
BTW I don't consider the Irish as "Brits"
They were at the time and we kept the spuds ;) j/k

Before all the Irish start flaming about Brit Parliment spending more on the parks in London than on the Irish famming. I don't agree with what they did.
 

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Guys, it doesn't matter how anything starts. It's only important issue is how it ends.
 

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Dillinja said:
Umm, ok, so all of the descendents of the British colonists who went over there and fought the war of independence, built the country and turned it into a democracy just suddenly disappeared into thin air? Your post doesn't make any sense. A very large percentage of Americans do have roots in Britain and Ireland, whether they like it or not.

As for the Mad Cow thing, who really cares what the French say/think anyway? They can moan all they want about how our beef might be infected with killer diseases etc. etc., but they have an annoying habit of poking their big noses into pretty much everything that goes on around the world, even when it's none of their business, so I doubt anyone takes them seriously anymore anyway.

Then they shit out when the going gets tough. France are the "chavs" of the national scene.
 

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Binky the Bomb said:
Guys, it doesn't matter how anything starts. It's only important issue is how it ends.

If you know how it starts, maybe it wont start again in the future :-O
 

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Dont blame the Germans :cheers: blame the Austrians. Archduke Ferdinand, A little guy called Adolf, and the lates menace Helmut Lotti :puke:
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Ning said:
It's just you who can't understand.
No, I understand what you said fine..it's just you're wrong.
Dillinja was right.
Ning said:
BTW I don't consider the Irish as "Brits".
Brits is a colloquelism for "British", i.e people from Britain, Ireland is part of Britain. You smell, go home. :(
 

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Jeeves said:
Brits is a colloquelism for "British", i.e people from Britain, Ireland is part of Britain. You smell, go home. :(

ireland is a part of ireland you numpty

northern ireland is a part of britain

Im starting to notice a pattern with your posts :p
 

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