Generals

[Aikon]

Ah man just had a video come into work with the C & C Generals Video on it, have to say it looks bloody amazing.

Whats every1 else's View?

 

[VidX]

Generals looks very nice, though from the initial views I have seen from the videos it is very similar to graphics from Earth:2150 and GC.

Of course, the thing that has always kept me playing the C+C games is the gameplay, it's so hard to beat it. Red Alert 2, to me, is the best so far, but I have always liked the RA series better than the Tiberian one (dunno why, units are just more fun I think).

It might take a while for me to get used to 3d RTS games again (last one I really played was WZ2100) and I don't think Generals will have the same feeling/atmosphere.

But finally it's good to see WW are using TCP for the network protocol, the messing around to get TS and RA2 working on a mixed OS network is, to say the least, fun

 

[NaveT]

Got the game yesterday. Its not bad so far.

 

[Wij]

Is it just me or is the game way slow ? It seems to take forever to move your troops anywhere :/

 

[.Cask]

Yeah I don't really have much good to say about this.

Like Wij said the vehicles move too slowly which makes it difficult to micro manage them in battles. And the really, really slow vehicles are painful to watch when sending em into battle. If the enemy does a sneak attack on your base it's often quicker to build a new army then retreat your forces to defend.

Also the whole game is too shallow. Tech tree is basic and kind of pointless in a way. The nukes/scuds/ion cannons have no place in an RTS in my opinion. Point and click mass destruction? Lame.

The variety of the different teams is nice. And the experience system is semi-original but doesn't bring anything new to the genre really.

Really quite dissapointing considering how much I enjoyed C&C and Red Alert

 

[Wij]

RA2 was so much quicker :/

 

[Envenom2]

i think generals is awsome and ive played the C&C games since the 1st was released ok its not great but then again is any game without its flaws?

Comon give it a rest

 

[StormriderX]

The graphics are quite good - similar to warcraft 3. It is quite fun the only problem I have with it is that its too short and that your units don't respond when being fired upon, they should return fire instead of letting people shoot them to death

 

[Xtro]

I found it really slow too Wij, very disappointing.

I'll go back to Red Alert 2, I prefer that series as well.

Oh well it beats watching Sheff Utd.

 

[Sir Frizz]

I don't care what you say. This is real-time-strategy returning to its best. RA didn't have the charm of the original C&C.

"Remember when war was hell? Those were the good ol' days."

 

[PR.]

Where's NOD?! GDI?! Kane?!

This isn't C&C theres not one thing (apart from the Westwood lot making it) that ties it to that name

I liked it, but it was too short and there wasn't enough units or buildings. Plus the AI in later missions seemed to be to be dormant (US v GLA final) or a constant stream of nme units (China v GLA final)

I still haven't cracked the last China mission because as fast as you build tanks they destroy them and if you do get an army they use the scud storm they get as soon as you start the mission and it acts like a nuke even though it only contains anthrax :/

 

[kreig]

Westwood didnt make Generals, EA bought out westwood. Generals is quite shallow and rough around the edges imo, custom games and quick matchs use basically teh same interface as from ra2. Generals is just a proganda statement for the usa and plolitical issues atm.

I do like the game play, always have done in the c+c series games. Like cask said the nukes ioncannons skud storms + some of the general abilities ie point click instant destruction do make the game not as good, perhaps a more complex tech tree or limiting them to only 1 special per base.

I think the gla have a brillaint system and are quite injenous.

If it was Westwood i think it would have been finished properly, ea have done a half assed job on it.

 

[Deadmanwalking]

same ppl just EA bought em out so anything westwoord produce EA publish.

Ea = Publishers
Westwood Pacific = Developers

 

[Wij]

Westwood have been renamed EA Pacific.

Simple.

 

[Nos-]

kreig is quite thick

 

[VidX]

I think they tried to make it too realistic.

What is to stop a rl country building only 1 of the super-weapons? Nothing, so whay stop it in game?

The only thing I don't like is the lack of the option of turning them off. Last I played a 2v1 against my flatmates, all USA, and it turned into my having a group of 20 hummers and a group of 20 choppers and running around using the Detention Centre to find and destroy all the Particle Cannons before they were activated.

Yes, I agree the game is too short, and there is no real storyline, unlike the other C&C games.

Multiplayer: Wel it has actually improved, well the AI has anyway. I can no longer take on 7 Brutals at once, the money just runs out unless I am China or USA, can't use GLA

But finally the AI actually actively hunts each other if you set them on different teams. Something that made the other C&C games hard was the fact that the AI always ganged up on you.

And no videos? Bah! I want Tanya back with her nice commando outfit!

 

[Xtro]

hmmmmmmmmmm........


Tanya...

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm..........

 

[Wij]

I prefered the other chick tbh

 

[Xtro]

pfft you would mr contrary

 

[Wij]

No I wouldn't

 

[Xtro]

*shakes fist*

 

[Wij]

:moon:

 

[ECA]

Quite frankly it sucks the big one.

I've never been a huge fan of Westwood after they changed from spice to tiberium, and lost the desert, just to avoid paying Dune license fees.

Quite frankly Dune 2 had 1v3 combat, and it took C&C a long time to catch up.

I still dont think the C&C series are as strategic as Dune 2 :-]

 

[ECA]

oops double post.

 

[VidX]

Sheesh!

Do people not know about the Delete function?

Edit post, and at the top of the Edit page there is the option to delete it

GSS

 

[TedTheDog]

Actually, I quite like Generals.
Yes, its smaller scale and slower that red alert. Yes, units form log-jams. But i find the single player campaigns more involving and overall it reminds me of the original C&C. To be honest, I didnt really like Red Alert, i thought they were trying to be something they werent with that, whereas Generals is a bit more how I expect a C&C game to be.

 

[Wij]

Nooooo. RA2 was much better.

 

[Mussard]

Generals is just as good as r2, just wish you could pick more countries

that is the only thing wrong with the game

ow and r2 was awesome

 

[Louster]

Westwood/EA/whoever the hell is making these games these days have totally lost their way since Red Alert. They seem to reckon that creating a side made entirely of specialised, over the top, stupid, unconvincing units is "novelty" and not "insanity". I mean, a tank that shoots mini nuclear warheads? Tanks that build drones? "Hackers" stealing money from the internet? Angry mobs? Even the initial income concept (go and collect all the magical supply crates that're just lying around!!!!!!!) is goddamned insane. The same problems plagued Tiberian Sun and to a slightly lesser extent RA2. Nothing meshes. Red Alert was better than the original C&C that was better than all the crap since. And starcraft is on par with Red Alert. And TA is better than them all.

 

[Sir Frizz]

I'm going to disagree with you there Louster, on the grounds of opinion.