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-Dreama-

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I offered to cancel my hunt, and I had no problem with that, UNTIILL a few of you got rude and disrespectfull to me. I will cooperate with just about anyone, but I will NOT be pushed around by ANYONE. You made your beds with the way you handled this, now it's time to sleep in them.

I'm closinjg this thread at the request of Tyka, because he asked me nicely and didn't behave like a child.
 
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Freppe^^

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Originally posted by elerand
I can't speak for Kama since I dont' know her very well, much like you from what I've seen she too can be tempestuous.
I know talivar well though and he deserves none of your previous comments and low attempts to diminish him.
Can't say anything about it being mentioned on /as either since I personally haven't noticed it, I know it was announced last week at the very least however but that's up to seperate raid leaders to learn to deal with.

Another thing, I wasn't on today till my lunch break and was playing my VW, unless that comment was aimed at Kama ofc :)

Forums are a place to air views, lame or not so lame, kama started it with an announcement of an intended raid, ok so it's possibly contentious but like I said before, you get nowhere by just slinging mud, be mature and MAKE it work, goes for kama and every other hib who plans to lead raids there.

Actually i cba to discuss with you since so inlove with your homies. Very lucky for you that she mentioned it for you since the 3-4 fgs that was down in DF today she didnt mention it to. Key , either you just lie to help her out or i dunno. Somethin freaky is going on thats for sure. The things that pisses me off at most is that she first said we aint doing it 2day, perhaps 2morro. Did sound fair to me since everyone know its just lame being in galla with 2 raids at the same time. (perhaps u dont) But then i guess after talivar changing her mind just to mess our raid as he wants too changed both the TIME and the date again. Bad manners imo. Cya around home boi lovah
 
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elerand

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Originally posted by Freppe^^
Actually i cba to discuss with you since so inlove with your homies. Very lucky for you that she mentioned it for you since the 3-4 fgs that was down in DF today she didnt mention it to. Key , either you just lie to help her out or i dunno. Somethin freaky is going on thats for sure. The things that pisses me off at most is that she first said we aint doing it 2day, perhaps 2morro. Did sound fair to me since everyone know its just lame being in galla with 2 raids at the same time. (perhaps u dont) But then i guess after talivar changing her mind just to mess our raid as he wants too changed both the TIME and the date again. Bad manners imo. Cya around home boi lovah

Think you need to readjust your thinking, your just insulting me but I don't really care for your opinion on whether I'm a boy lover or not, if I am then it's my happy concern you homophobe :)

Anyway, tyka asked for the thread to be closed, hasn't been yet (kama probably can't find the button :p) and I'll not rattle your cage.
 
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old.Garax

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Originally posted by elerand
I think a more mature approach is called for, notification in advance of raids IS a more sensible option, means everyone in the realm gets a chance and without putting more noses out of joint, regardless of previous behaviour, comments and attitudes I think everyone needs to take a step forward to make this work :)

I totally agree, but how would you suggest? VGN planned one from about a week ago, spoke to people and guilds about turning up, should we then have to annouce it on /as so other people know we are doing one?

Surely it's not that hard for the other raid to be put back a day, coz i know for a fact that if Kama had planned to be in galla before the VGN raid (and we had known about it) we would totally pull out and arrange it for the next day.

I know galla mobs are free for all, but when u bring together +4fg's of people then u want to try and reward them for turning up and working towards a common goal, and the best way to reward people is to get loads of nice goodies for them. Now if there is just 1 raid running then you can realistically expect about 12-15 drops, which is kinda good odds for people to get something they are after, but put double the amount of people in the dungeon cuts that number in half straight away. So surely it's in the interests of the 2nd raid to get there to back off and go the next day?
 
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ravenslore

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Damn u freppe u guessed it I convinced kama I did all this cus i wanted to annoy you :p
 
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-Nuked-

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i may be alone but ... i hadnt heard about either of your raids so :p
 
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elerand

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Originally posted by old.Garax
I totally agree, but how would you suggest? VGN planned one from about a week ago, spoke to people and guilds about turning up, should we then have to annouce it on /as so other people know we are doing one?

Surely it's not that hard for the other raid to be put back a day, coz i know for a fact that if Kama had planned to be in galla before the VGN raid (and we had known about it) we would totally pull out and arrange it for the next day.

I know galla mobs are free for all, but when u bring together +4fg's of people then u want to try and reward them for turning up and working towards a common goal, and the best way to reward people is to get loads of nice goodies for them. Now if there is just 1 raid running then you can realistically expect about 12-15 drops, which is kinda good odds for people to get something they are after, but put double the amount of people in the dungeon cuts that number in half straight away. So surely it's in the interests of the 2nd raid to get there to back off and go the next day?

Kama seems to have had problems with some people who have been rude to her, if there is ONE person who organises these raids then they should be the only ones with a say on how these multiple raids are organised.
I'm not getting involved with hearsay, it's just too easy to believe one side over another, think a new process of communicating needs to be started tbh.
 
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old.Garax

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Originally posted by elerand
Kama seems to have had problems with some people who have been rude to her, if there is ONE person who organises these raids then they should be the only ones with a say on how these multiple raids are organised.
I'm not getting involved with hearsay, it's just too easy to believe one side over another, think a new process of communicating needs to be started tbh.

It would appear that indeed some people were rude to her, just a pitty that people cant think about what they say before opening their mouths :(

I'm sure this could all have been worked out with diplomacy rather than insults :)
 
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ravenslore

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i agree garax ill promise when i make a raid or kama does ill pm tyka or a vGM person to tell u if VGN promise the same
 
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old.Garax

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Sounds good to me, i'll make sure we can stick to that :)
 
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saks-

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Eternal Flame isnt in CF alliance are they ? Maybe thats the reason no1 from VGN has seen the /as anouncement!

And for the 2nd, you had the topic on your irc channel for a wekk ? ehm.. is _every1_ in your irc channel ? guess not.

What about frmo now on ppl post here if they are planning to raid galla ?
just my point of view
 
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Exiled

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Originally posted by ravenslore
i agree garax ill promise when i make a raid or kama does ill pm tyka or a vGM person to tell u if VGN promise the same

so basically your saying, we need VNG (YES VNG SEE HOW YOU SPELL VENGEANCE THE N IS BEFORE THE G !!!!!!!!!!!!!) permission to hunt there o_O
 
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Freppe^^

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nah the opposite :\ btw saks they are on /cf as so nerf xD cya n good bye, fairwell my young padawans, hope u get a terrific night or how it spells
 
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Exiled

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Originally posted by Freppe^^
nah the opposite :\ btw saks they are on /cf as so nerf xD cya n good bye, fairwell my young padawans, hope u get a terrific night or how it spells

bye bye aussie,um, sorry freppe

/edit and no freppe isnt aussie, (silly tali :p) they just speak the same "uber" language
 
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old.Garax

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Originally posted by Exiled
so basically your saying, we need VNG (YES VNG SEE HOW YOU SPELL VENGEANCE THE N IS BEFORE THE G !!!!!!!!!!!!!) permission to hunt there o_O

VenGeaNce :great:

And if you read what Talivar says he means that we will all check wether someone else is doing a galla raid, so stop tryin to start trouble. :rolleyes:
 
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Sharp Thing

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HInt; discussion can be solved without swearing :x
 
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chrstffr

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Originally posted by Sharp Thing
HInt; discussion can be solved without swearing :x

But not as fun then :p

(Mighty, u sir are an idiot)
 
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Gahldir

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VGN or VNG, what's the difference really?

VGN is smoother for me so that's what I say :)
 
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Exiled

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Originally posted by chrstffr
(Mighty, u sir are an idiot)

yeh well your user ID is odd

i know Gahldir but for some reason vng ppl get pissed when i say vng
 
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Tyka

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Tried to solve this in game, asked kama to close the thread, but did not work as she is doing what suits her anyways, just one thing, its not hard to get 100 ppl to come on a raid and wipe everything ni there when a small guild is having some fun in galla, you are not anything special, anyone could do what you did today and just tell ppl to "attack mob X".

Just because you do FFA raids and we do it our way, does not mean you guys had more right to be there than us, i tried to solve it but only got childish replies from most of the guys in Ethereal Flame, even after Kama told me she will cancel the raid.

For the people who are taking her side, just think of it this way, your guild is doing a small raid in fomor/galla/ts, i announce on as that there will be an free for all raid upcoming and i get 100 ppl to just mash over you + your guild, how would you feel, well thats how things are now, and of course its easy to talk in a cg about how much VGN and i suck, but i bet half of you dont have any clue about what really was said behind that.

Keep up the flaming Kama, i lost all respect i had for you, maybe im a dick sometimes, but i dont go around tell ppl flowery stories to make them like me more. Keep up doing your raids, im sure alot of people respect that, but dont expect people to respect you for that, people go on your raids because they are FREE for all, they have no other choice or the willpower as me or any other good organiser, wich i would not call you.

Believe it or not and say what you want, but thats how things are.

One last word to exiled, stop jumping on every bandwagon that is against VGN or me just because an opportunity comes, we know how low you can sink just to get back at me for not letting you lotto in a legion raid ages ago cause you were too low, get over it.

I said this many many times before and ill say it again, people can hate us, but they can not ignore us.
 
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elerand

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Well done to those who sorted out arrangements :clap:

Always best to involve LESS people in disputes, those responsible should sort it out and wallow in the kudos of getting it right so everyone feels that there will be no more bickering over these events.

Thanks for not blowing up the realm while I was at work Tal :p
 
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Exiled

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Originally posted by Tyka
One last word to exiled, stop jumping on every bandwagon that is against VGN or me just because an opportunity comes, we know how low you can sink just to get back at me for not letting you lotto in a legion raid ages ago cause you were too low, get over it.

lol, tyka you dont know the 1/2 of it, me + kama go back a long way in alb, we had our differences, but we both put them behind us, and yeh i would take her side over things because i know what shes like and i trust her.

and that legion thing ? HA you still using that excuse ? c'mon i've given you plenty more,

Oh oh and the raid thing, kama/tali raid was annouced at their LAST raid, which someone from VNG was on,

oh oh oh dont send crappy flames and shit over pm just cause someone wouldnt res you when you died (ha)
 
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Freppe^^

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okey , gonna be cool bout this, no swearing etc.
kama u msged me ingame said that u never announce a raid on /as , just the day its on. and here u and ur "friends" tell a whole other story. what is that bout? ur lying? since i didnt get a answer ingame after the question, u only told me as i said, u neva announce raids on as b4 the day its on, then u did shut it , why? pls tell
 
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-Dreama-

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So, I should cancell my hunt JUST because the all mighty VNG had planned one? No, I think not. I was willing to cooperate and cancel mine UNTILL the high and mighty children got rude with me. I won't be pushed around by big ego leetist punks, simply isn't going to happen.
As for being a good raid leader or whatever, I could go in with 3 or 4 fg's and do bosses in Galla without much problem, as a matter of fact, we had 3½ fg's on my first galla hunt, and ended up with 16 drops. I don't exclude anyone from my hunts, and people seem to enjoys them, that is why is has grown from 3½ fg's to 9fg's. So, before you go around saying you're so uber for doing it with less, check your facts little man.
I have never had a problem with vng til today. You do your own things, that's fine with me, I don't particularlly care, you pay your sub and play how you like, but I will do the same thing, and if that means I feel like going thru with a hunt I planned, it's what I will do, weather vng wants to stand in my way or not.
Why didn't vng cancel their raid? Why should I have to cancel mine? Because you planned yours for 1 hour before mine? I don't think so.
Tyka, you talk a good game, but you simply can't back it up. People don't respect me because I throw ffa hunts, people like me, and respect me for who I am and the principals which I adhear to. Those who don't like and respect me, well, everyone has a choice, and they're free to make theirs. I really can't be bothered with it.
As for vng, you can do your little hunts and you can throw your little baby tantrums, but it won't stop me from haveing fun with people I enjoy hunting with.
My hunt went out of our way to rezz vng people, and what thanks did we get? We got insulted because after me telling people to please rezz, no one wanted to rezz you. No thank you for rezzing over half your groups, just insults and told we'll never get rezzed in RvR again. Tyke, your imaturity astounds me! Really, grow up and get a date!
 
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