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[Stallion]

How do people feel about how the grinding (mob chaining) part progressively taking over the questing part as levels pass by? I don't mind it really, quests around my level now (58) contribute to about 25-30% of the experience earned to next level, not sure how it will develop from here.. but currently its roughly 350 kills of (my level + 2) mobs in order to advance.

Anyone care to share their experience?

ps! the fact that AOC integrates you as an active player makes the time doing this fly by, but stil =)

 

[Manisch Depressiv]

I feel good about it.

Sometimes I stop and kill 50 Nemedians and their wives because I like how they gurgle their blood or want to sharpen my blades on their bones.

 

[partyanimal]

the lack of quest is very irritating, especially after doing loads till 49lvl.
the kill tasks as so stupid cause you have to wipe the hole camp twice to finish task, but there are another 10 people killing mobs.
i am forced to do all quest available which means finishing 5lvl higher quests, killing 6lvl higher mobs and still going in an instance to grind without having to wait for respawn
don't forget the cistern and main system dungeon has epic mobs but its not instanced, overcrowded and bosses down and camped by farmers
i really felt shame yesterday ,when i was in a grp with 'just a guild chat", who had a 61 hox and aoe nuked to steal boss from rulke or sm1 from aesirs camping a boss.
back to grind

 

[Stallion]

I feel good about it.

Sometimes I stop and kill 50 Nemedians and their wives because I like how they gurgle their blood or want to sharpen my blades on their bones.

Well this is kind of besides the point, you got that option before 50, I wonder if you would like it, when your forced to kill 350 mobs after doing 2-5 quests every level for 10 levels , possibly 30 levels if there is no change.

 

[Manisch Depressiv]

Well this is kind of besides the point, you got that option before 50, I wonder if you would like it, when your forced to kill 350 mobs after doing 2-5 quests every level for 10 levels , possibly 30 levels if there is no change.

Yeah, I would like it I think, but I'll let you know once I am there .

 

[old.Tohtori]

Conan was a great champion of the people and he didn't complain about slashing and hacking through countless enemies!

If it's good for Conan, it's good enough for me!

 

[dee777]

If it's good for Conan, it's good enough for me!

:worthy:

 

[Manisch Depressiv]

If it's good for Conan, it's good enough for me!

 

[ileks]

My god 350 mobs per level at level 58? Tempted to re-roll to something else atm, the assassin is really weak in PvE and i'm only level 29.

 

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i HATE how the exp is spread out though, let mne explain

6 man group killing epic mobs 3-4 levels higher than you gives the same exp as a mob your level. You can kill several mobs your level in the time it takes to kill 1 epic mob. There should be bonuses for epic mob grouping tbh - puts me off doing group quests and grouping in general.

Also was in a 6 man group waiting for a boss to spawn and we were killig level 60 normal mobs and i wsa getting 700 exp per kill as 6 in the group. When i solo, i kill them fairy fast but get 1300 exp. If thre is a really nice spawn of mobs somewere, surely its gonna be faster to get a fg and chain them all really fast, than killing 1 at once?

 

[- English -]

My god 350 mobs per level at level 58? Tempted to re-roll to something else atm, the assassin is really weak in PvE and i'm only level 29.

i got 470k atm per elvel at 57. I get around 1k per mob, maybe 1.5k per higher level mob ;\

 

[Stallion]

My god 350 mobs per level at level 58? Tempted to re-roll to something else atm, the assassin is really weak in PvE and i'm only level 29.

assassins are not weak!

weak armor, but right now I two shoot mobs that are 2 levels higher then me.. so they only get 1-2 swings in whether I stealth attack or not

 

[Stallion]

i HATE how the exp is spread out though, let mne explain

6 man group killing epic mobs 3-4 levels higher than you gives the same exp as a mob your level. You can kill several mobs your level in the time it takes to kill 1 epic mob. There should be bonuses for epic mob grouping tbh - puts me off doing group quests and grouping in general.

Also was in a 6 man group waiting for a boss to spawn and we were killig level 60 normal mobs and i wsa getting 700 exp per kill as 6 in the group. When i solo, i kill them fairy fast but get 1300 exp. If thre is a really nice spawn of mobs somewere, surely its gonna be faster to get a fg and chain them all really fast, than killing 1 at once?

One thing I totaly agree on is atleast for an assassin, mobs are so spread out and have so slow respawn, that its not viable for me to group much... I group some with a few guildies and it turns out to lower my xp / hour ratio alot.. I get 1375 xp per mob solo, that dies in a matter of seconds, if I can get them max 2 at a time, its totaly fine and I barely need to rest as the mobs are spread out good enough for me to regen while running between them.

While for the grouping part, lower exp with insufficient mobs to pull

 

[ileks]

assassins are not weak!

weak armor, but right now I two shoot mobs that are 2 levels higher then me.. so they only get 1-2 swings in whether I stealth attack or not

Ah it's nice to hear that If you read the official assassin board they make it seem like they are by far the worst class in the game.

I do well when I'm fighting a single mob, but when 2 come i have to use a health pot and if any more than that turn up I'm buggered.

 

[Raven]

Thats because most people have come from WoW. Have you ever read the class boards there?

They are all useless carebears.

 

[ileks]

hehe, luckily i never played WoW.

Is anyone getting massive lag spikes atm btw?

 

[Succi]

Yeah just wait till level 70+ guys


you're in for a treat !

 

[partyanimal]

well chain grinding 2x 61lvl mobs 2x 2200xp @ 56lvl dt
still loooong way till 60

 

[PewPewAS50.50]

I'm level 57 now.. a PoM ( divinity spec ) and I noticed that the grind increase over the levels, but still you get 5-10 quests each level near the Ephi mountains, and you have the option to either do Tomb runs or Main system, or the gladiator quests in tarantia nobel. If you don't like to grind you basically doesn't have to.

Personally I always hated doing quests since I can't be arsed to read the text. In AoC I can just read the short info and then go to the X ... Grinding is quite funny aswell as a PoM since I have no downtime and can chainpull hoops of 5-7 mobs 4-5 levels above me and kill them with AoE stacking.

Throw in duo mate Cogs into that equation n tis really fun tbh

 

[PewPewAS50.50]

Ah it's nice to hear that If you read the official assassin board they make it seem like they are by far the worst class in the game.

I do well when I'm fighting a single mob, but when 2 come i have to use a health pot and if any more than that turn up I'm buggered.

Don't trust the whine really. Alot of people on the official forums are clueless morons who simply suck at gaming and lack comprehension and understanding of game mechanics.

Had a PoM whine at me about how much the class sucked and how worthless they were to solo on. Then I asked him to follow me and watch me do a pull where I took 10 mobs 5 levels higher then me and killed them in 30s, getting 12-14k exp. Then he altered his whinge to that healing specced PoMs can not solo and that they need love etc. People are just beeing idiots most of the time, refusing to adapt and actually play the game as it was thought out.

Assassins as Staj said do insane dps and can easily kill mobs several levels higher then themselves in seconds. I'm making one myself when I'm 80 on the PoM.

 

[Manisch Depressiv]

Mind sharing your fast leveling PvE spec Sneakers?

 

[Mirt]

WoW forums are to be avoided...

As for the AoC forums, well there's massive QQ about demonologists but at mid 30's from what I've seen in groups they do a lot of damage and don't appear particularly broken.

I've been playing a Bear Shamen, and while they don't really have any burst damage to speak of, I solo'd a 39 boss at lvl 34 in some mini instance near the pyramid dungeon in stygia. Just like a PoM I can take on 4-5 mobs which are 1-2 levels above - but unlike the PoM there is zero down time, I don't think I've ever actually run out of mana on the Bear Shaman...

I'm sure a lot of things will get adjusted (and perhaps stuff that's OP at lvl 3x is completly different at 80) since many classes seem able to do some blatantly OP stuff currently.

 

[Ctuchik]

i HATE how the exp is spread out though, let mne explain

6 man group killing epic mobs 3-4 levels higher than you gives the same exp as a mob your level. You can kill several mobs your level in the time it takes to kill 1 epic mob. There should be bonuses for epic mob grouping tbh - puts me off doing group quests and grouping in general.

Also was in a 6 man group waiting for a boss to spawn and we were killig level 60 normal mobs and i wsa getting 700 exp per kill as 6 in the group. When i solo, i kill them fairy fast but get 1300 exp. If thre is a really nice spawn of mobs somewere, surely its gonna be faster to get a fg and chain them all really fast, than killing 1 at once?

they wont make fast respawns of anything because of gold farmers. i'm pretty sure i read that somewhere in an interview with them. and tbh i rather take the slight annoyance with slower respawns then having to fight farmers for the mobs that will be there 24/7. now i'm sure those farmers will find a way sooner or later. but the more pissed off they get the more fun i'l have.

 

[pez]

Mind sharing your fast leveling PvE spec Sneakers?

yeah i would be interested to hear too. Atm just alternating lance of mitra/smite and repulsing when things get tough but can't take over 3 mobs my level or above.

 

[PewPewAS50.50]

Mind sharing your fast leveling PvE spec Sneakers?

Nothing amazing or mysterious about it

I simply maxed out my damage as much as possible. Then I use pots and stack mobs in lines so I can AoE spam them with Lance getting lots of fatalities and crit shots, and then finish them off with repulse.

So basically when I pull I stack hots on myself, have Armor of faith maxed out feat wise so take basically no dmg, pop a health pot, mana pot.. pull 5-6 mobs 5-6 levels higher. Debuff them, lane, rebuke, smite, lance, smite, lance, smite, repulse. Pull 5-6 new mobs. Rince repeat. No down time and killing 5-6 mobs 5-6 lvls higher then me, or 10 mobs wich are 2-3 levels higher like this. Sometimes you get unlucky with mobs who knockback you multiple times so you never get the chance to stack new hots, then you die if you can't get SoI up kinda.

PoM rox to PvE with really, have a tank that do aoe 2h damage ( like conq ) and it is so freaking easy ...

 

[PewPewAS50.50]

yeah i would be interested to hear too. Atm just alternating lance of mitra/smite and repulsing when things get tough but can't take over 3 mobs my level or above.

Key is to stack them so you lance does damage to all mobs giving you heals form all mobs. Your HP is like a jojo but you heal up to fast for them to kill you.

 

[Succi]

just dinged 80, last 4 or 5 levels is pure grind unless you get a group and go do the black citadell (sp) quests

 

[eksdee]

grats.

 

[deez]

grats

 

[Faeldawn]

just dinged 80, last 4 or 5 levels is pure grind unless you get a group and go do the black citadell (sp) quests

Avoid the grind, form a group..in an mmorpg? Who would have thought it

Gratz on 80, first here perhaps?