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Lothandar said:The problem is not with your class, armsman are great, plate, ability to hybrid spec like heroes, etc.
really?
and this is according to..
Lothandar said:The problem is not with your class, armsman are great, plate, ability to hybrid spec like heroes, etc.
Jika said:1.5 years to get rr6 ? :x .. ok cu mistar neverheard
Jika said:1.5 years to get rr6 ? :x .. ok cu mistar neverheard
Jika said:1.5 years to get rr6 ? :x .. ok cu mistar neverheard

Drav said:Armsman suck m8, I know I am one, and we are nothing like heroes.
An argument could be made for chain +evade being just as good if not better than plate, hybrid spec isnt as effective as heroes because of the fact that arms have to double spec just for balance, it doesnt give a variance advantage after 50.
Paladins have the defensive base covered, with chants they make very good defensive tanks, that I agree with you on. The problem arises when arms try to spec offensive to actually get a group for their dmg output rather than defensive abilitys, mercs do better dmg over time, also have dirty tricks etc.
So arms are in this position, they arent the best defensive tank, they arent the best offensive tank, and they dont give anything to a group in way of buffs, regens, etc etc.
So basically your gimped to have them in your group.
Anyone who says "Theres nothing wrong with the armsman class" should actually take the time out to look at the test data keersdan has over on armsman.com
As far as Alb classes go armsmen are the least group friendly class in the realm, hell even necros have group utility.
On Excal, most BMs were BG bots the last time I checked (admittedly some months ago), and so are reduced to babysitting casters anyway.Puppet said:But in Hibernia the heroes arent for offense taken into (good) groups. Blademasters (like mercs) do a better job in that.
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Puppet said:You got fair points; so does Lothandar.. If the warden class in Hibernia had shield-spec and a large-shield (hypothetically speaking ofcourse) then heroes would have the same problem.
The fact that Armsman have to double-spec make it even worse for most cookie-cutter specs.
But in Hibernia the heroes arent for offense taken into (good) groups. Blademasters (like mercs) do a better job in that.
Heroes have something unique in Hibernia: Large shields.. This isnt the case in Albion: Paladin and Reaver also have large shields. Add to that paladins are 'needed' for endurance-regen and you basically are left in the dark.
Like there is little room in good-groups for 2 heroes (or 2 warriors) there is little room for a paladin (needed for endo) AND an armsman.
Even if they fixed all the issue with armsman and its problems, double-speccing etc there would still be little room for you in a RvR-group..
[url=http://www.meatshield.com/boards/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=TLreports&Number=6553&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1]Mors in 1.70 TL report[/url] said:Nothing has changed since the last report. Armsman remain a highly played class with very passionate players.

NetNifty said:Right now there are 5 armsman on total (not level 50 armsman, just total armsman) with 1744 ppl on the server. This is why I get so annoyed when the armsman TL (who probably hasnt logged into the game for more than 10 mins in the last year) says:
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