fucking die america

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Mr B

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That's the trouble with video footage, you only see what the editors want you to see...

Apparently the phrase, "The camera never lies" is under review at the Axioms board.

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mank!

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Originally posted by old.ignus
I don't mean to sound racist but what would the reaction be if a bunch of black cops beat up a white man resisting arrest?

Nobody would give a shit, frankly.
 
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Furr

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Americans should abolish the possibility of sueing, cause they all fucking abuse it.
 
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Damini

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Does anyone have a picture of the cut on the policeman though? You can see it in the video, he had a long cut (looked like four inches or so) by his eye. Policemen don't tend to spontaneously bleed, so I guess we aren't seeing the whole story.

Has anyone seen that video where that twat runs up to a policeman, and starts swearing at him for a laugh? And then the policeman batons him. Well, I laughed at that. Found it pretty damn funny, almost Darwinian. If you'd only caught the part with the copper swinging the baton though, you could probably scream police brutality. Especially if it was a white cop and a black victim. These are litigious times, and people are well aware how much the racist boat can pay out. Human nature is such that if you get attacked, you get adrenalin rushes and it takes a hell of a lot of restraint to not respond sometimes. I'm not saying thats an excuse, but theres a hell of a lot of difference between "Oh, look, a black man, I'll hit him because I'm a racist" and "Ouch, that fucker just cut my eye open". And that video doesn't give any insight into whats actually happening there. Its just a disjointed fragment.
 
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caLLous

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Originally posted by Damini
Has anyone seen that video where that twat runs up to a policeman, and starts swearing at him for a laugh? And then the policeman batons him. Well, I laughed at that. Found it pretty damn funny, almost Darwinian. If you'd only caught the part with the copper swinging the baton though, you could probably scream police brutality.
Heh heh, that was priceless and a good point. :)

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wolfeeh

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yeh but damini

we aren't really playing the race issue on this, what we talking about is the bit where that guy is cuffed and helpless and they slam his head into the car, and then twat him in the face....

your given an awful amount of trust when u become a cop and stuff it's meant to be ur responsibility to control yourself, that's why they have a selection process. the idea being that they weed out all the ppl who when faced with a difficult situation will react badly... anyone disagreeing here?
 
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old.ignus

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wolfeeh what exactly are you saying? You trying to say that as soon as a person joins the police force they have some kind of force field around them, they're just people. If the guy was resisting arrest what were they supposed to do let him go? What would you have done, asked him ever so nicely to stop struggling so that you could arrest him?
 
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Furr

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well if someone made you bleed, im sure that you would beat the shit out of them aswell, i know i would. Cops r only human u know
 
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wolfeeh

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ignus, furof

that's exactly what i'm saying here... resisting arrest, and having to restrain a man when he does such is one thing

but when u've got him detained and are leading him to the police car, slamming his head into said fucking police car, and then having ya buddy punch him in the fucking chops? that's subdueing him is it?

furof:
that's the very point, your not supposed to let your emotion get in the way, your supposed to be impartial, if your assaulted, obviously u need to a) subdue and then b) restrain and detain said individual.... but that only goes up to a certain point - when they are restrained... then you STOP... what part of that didn't you get? it doesn't matter if they are only human or not...

what about all these cops and stuff that have to protect child molesters and stuff? they don't beat the shit out of them do they?
 
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old.ignus

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even with handcuffs on you can still attack someone, you can still resist arrest and still be a pain in the arse. As everyone keeps pointing out YOU ARE NOT SEEING THE WHOLE THING you're just seeing what race paranoid journalists are printing and the statements of the people who are good friends of the so called victim.

And actually you'll find that rapists and child abusers in prison do get "special treatment" if you know what I mean.
 
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osiris-

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we aren't really playing the race issue on this, what we talking about is the bit where that guy is cuffed and helpless and they slam his head into the car, and then twat him in the face....

I thought that it was about the racist side of it though. From the reports I've seen/read the Media were all making out it was some racist policemen attacking some poor black guy.

If he'd already fucked the policemen around then they're not going to want to take any chances, like ignus said.
 
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wolfeeh

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yeh

not from actual cops tho.

what started the incident isn't on tape yeh? that's not an issue...

but the bit where he's restrained IS.... the bit where u can see they have him under control and just assuault him, duh..? he's not fighting back... u can see that. they just attacked him.
 
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*charlton_thd*

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Originally posted by old.ignus

And actually you'll find that rapists and child abusers in prison do get "special treatment" if you know what I mean.

Yeah they get to see what the car theifs and armed robbers think of them



I'm so sick of people getting on their high horse when somebody mentions racism, as long as there are people out there that percieve things as racist then the whole state of mind will continue to exist.
I was my whites seperate from my colours.....does that make me a racist?, i sat next to an old woman instead of an asian man on the bus....does that make me racist?

People should stop screaming RACIST!!! like their at a witch hunt.
 
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wolfeeh

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heh

ya didn't hear me scream racist!

anyway, u prolly sat next to her cos u thought u could get some :D
 
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stu

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wolfeh, you have a shocking set of double standards...

On one hand, you seem to think it's alright for a common or garden civilian to use deadly force on an intruder in their house, regardless of whether their own life has been threatened, because after all who's to say the guy doesn't have a gun, or a knife, or whatever (even if he's running away, has his back to you, and is unarmed).

And on the other hand, you think that a police officer, when confronted with a dangerous, aggressive and violent criminal or suspect, should be unable to use anything but the bare minimum of force, and that somehow should be able to judge exactly what this level of force is at all times, despite being in a far more directly confrontational situation than the one in which you advocate murder.
 
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Scooba Da Bass

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He truly is the 'Jade' of the General Board
 
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wolfeeh

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/me smiles at scooba

yes stu, that's exactly it... :D what's the problem? :p

my general point is though, that a policeman has adequate training to deal with said situation... what does your average joe in his house have?

he don't have cs spray, he don't have a nightstick, he don't have handcuffs, he don't have a radio to call for backup....

oh yes, let's not forget the stab vest and possibly level II body armour shall we?
 
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old.ignus

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I wish we all lived in an ideal world like Wolfeeh
 
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wolfeeh

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it's great mind isn't it ignus :p

so what's ignus' world like?
 
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Mellow-

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I haven't really read this thread very much.

Black people are more racist than white people. Bit of a bold and short sighted statement, but there we go. I haven't seen anything in my life to prove me wrong.

That is all.
 
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stu

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Re: /me smiles at scooba

Originally posted by wolfeeh
my general point is though, that a policeman has adequate training to deal with said situation... what does your average joe in his house have?

he don't have cs spray, he don't have a nightstick, he don't have handcuffs, he don't have a radio to call for backup....

oh yes, let's not forget the stab vest and possibly level II body armour shall we?

Which, according to you, he can use none of. Maybe we should equip the police with shotguns then? Obviously you'd have no problem with them blowing a smoking hole through a suspect, after all it's ok for a civilian :rolleyes:

so what's ignus' world like?

It's the same as the one the rest of us (save you, it seems) live in
 

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