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Eden

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ROFL

just noticed the <0> and <1> in the cerialbowl... topp class :drink:

0vercl0ck y0ur bre4kf4zt!
 

Lethul

FH is my second home
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How much wood would a woodchuck chuck
if a woodchuck could chuck wood?
He would chuck, he would, as much as he could,
and chuck as much wood as a woodchuck would
if a woodchuck could chuck wood.
 

Gazon

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I'm trying to point out the hypocrisy of the "8 vs 8 = skill" statement :m00:

Elendar said:
if rp per kill is as important as you think, then how is it that people in 8v8 groups can have more than soloers? number of kills is important too

I overlooked something: It seems grouping in RvR gives you a x2 RP bonus.
It's supposed to be a sliding scale. Grp of 4 get about x1.5, grp of 2 gets x1.25, solo gives no bonus.
If you kill someone as a soloer you get about ~900 RPs. (without keep bonusses etc)
When you kill someone as a grp, everybody gets about 225 RPs, meaning that kill got 225 x 8 = ~1800 RPs in total.

So even if we would say the rate of kills/hour is the same for a soloer as it is per member of a grp ( grp killing grp means 1 kill per person, not 8 ), the people in the grp would still get 2x the RP the soloer gets.
Mythic put this in to promote forming groups, ofc.
But this bonus doesn't extend beyond 1 grp. There is no bonus and no incentive for running as 1gf+. Hence the optimal RP fights are 8vs8.

Now, the rate of kills/hour for a soloer is not equal to the rate of kills per member of a grp. It's harder for a soloer to chain solo fights like a fg can chain 8vs8.

And a zerg can't find enough enemies to keep feeding it enough kills continuously. One zerg ends up dominating, pressing the enemy into a keep or tower (or making him log) = fight slowing down = low kill rate for everybody.

Elendar said:
and you get a bigger reward for killing higher rr players, so you do get a bigger bonus on harder targets

True. But the difference is not that big. My point was: the rp reward system does not model to give fitting rewards for a kill against many or against few.
 

daoc_xianghua

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Belomar said:
Heh, whatever. Yes, good healers anticipate damage and start to heal before the bars drop, but it is hardly easy to overview a FG fight and be free to heal when necessary, nor a surefire way to survival for your casters.

For yourself, you play a Hero, so let me serve you with this unfounded statement: Bodyguarding and grappling is easy, you just have to practice, friend! Learn to BG and grapple in time and your casters can't rly [sic] die anymore!

:rolleyes:


aye cuz its the tanks who kill the casters... :D
 

daoc_xianghua

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Belomar said:
Heh, whatever. Yes, good healers anticipate damage and start to heal before the bars drop, but it is hardly easy to overview a FG fight and be free to heal when necessary, nor a surefire way to survival for your casters.

For yourself, you play a Hero, so let me serve you with this unfounded statement: Bodyguarding and grappling is easy, you just have to practice, friend! Learn to BG and grapple in time and your casters can't rly [sic] die anymore!

:rolleyes:

oh and btw i didnt say good healers will keep casters 100% always alive
i said IF first heal lands your casters cant rly die anymore. IF includes that your healer is free/uninterupted ofc. ofc do good healers fuck up too sometimes, nobody is perfect, but ppl made it look like its totally impossible to outheal debuff dd´s and thats wrong. oh and btw i played healer too for quiet some time so i know abit about healing, i know how hard it can be if you loose overview about the fight for few secs and i also fucked up several times but with more practicing i managed better and better.
 

Roadie

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VidX said:
nerfed-to-hell-cause-of-resists stun

there are like 2 maybe 3 active rvr friars in alb atm so you must be thinking of mids :Z
 

TheBinarySurfer

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Roadie said:
there are like 2 maybe 3 active rvr friars in alb atm so you must be thinking of mids :Z
Its rare to see more than one on at any time in an rvr zone tbh...And i think only one of the three has bg offhand.
 

Kinetix

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Graendel said:
Let's see...my wizard..

- I can't debuff my own heat damage.
- I don't have a pet, stun, mezz or instas.
- I don't have anything but damage-augmenting RAs i.e. no ST, no TWF.

Unless utility drops out of the sky and lands on my head, I'm retiring her. Thanks Mythic for wasting my time.

you forgot we dont have +speed :flame:
 

pip

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Jjuraa said:
if you havnt already been made aware by the other peoples replys to that pile of junk you seem to want to call a post: the sheer bloody-minded arrogance youre showing here is off the chart.. but this seems to be Legacys main goal nowadays.

You've never played even played alb? so how the fuck can you even consider saying the entire realm "lacks skill"? or maybe you have played alb? in which case youve rerolled hib for some reason.. you must like the scenery, right? :wanker:

I've been an alb since euro beta, and ive also played hib. Making 10krp in 15 minutes as a solo, unbuffed eldritch at a keep take simply by stunning lone casters and nuking them to bits with them having no chance of escape, or to even fight back was more than enough to convince me that i had an insane advantage as a hib. Hell yes it was fun, hell yes i kept doing it. but fuck me i never for a second thought "these albs are skillless, im so much better than them".

when you can see past the cum covering your screen from wanking over dead albs, come back and try say something that wont be shoved straight back up whence it came.
10 k in 15 mins <cough bu=====t> :touch:
 

Corran

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TheBinarySurfer said:
Its rare to see more than one on at any time in an rvr zone tbh...And i think only one of the three has bg offhand.

muhhahah, got a ml10 perfector friar :p Respec out of battlemaster to make it a pow bot for my sorc/necro as i still aint rolled a buffbot and friends bots not got fop.

Also something to do with it being my gf's character on my account and she has no fucking idea how to use all the battlemaster abilities it easier if when she does play she got things she can just throw down now and again, as it mainly PvE (stupid second pc dont run new frontiers well :( )
 

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