Freedom of speach

[Flesh]

Originally posted by old.Baritone
Next time i will screenshot what he says and send it to Kemor as suggested and let them deal with him.

Screenshot what ?
I never spoke to you last night, and this post still remains to be a whine from yourself regarding an incident you were never involved in.
So ask yourself, wtf has it got to do with you? and why are you even here?
Do you know what happened?

I'll leave it at that tbh.. oh..and notice the lack of response from the only other person who was involved in the situation?

 

[Ramshir]

Flesh, hello, I am the x:th person who has nothing to do with the incident to come here and point out this:

You have no manners, you insult people for no reason, you are dislikeable in every way I can imagine and on top of that, you seem to be proud of it in some sickening way.

Just this night you just ran past 2fg's of people from my guild, and with no provocation whatsoever, just had to shout out a general insult, "oh look, a zerg of n00bs" or whatever 3l1t3 bullshit it was. I don't understand and I hope I never do why anyone would have the need to insult a group of 14 people who had not said or done a single thing to you at that point, and even if one had done so in the past, it's a strange approach to the situation trying to make even more enemies. Had you just shut up and ran past us, you wouldn't have to spend your few brain cells to come up with a reply to this particular whine now.

Both times I've been in an RvR event with you involved, I've seen nothing but petty remarks, unneeded critique and whines from you, annoying everyone the best way you can. People tell you the shut up, normally you don't.

You have a sad life. Fine. You come and take it out on others online. Fine. Just do everyone a favor and don't act on the forums as if you had justification for it, because you simply do not. If you're gonna be a dork, at least do it right, would prolly be the only thing you've done right since you've been born.

 

[Flesh]

Fyi, the words were " omg 1 mid inc, quick get 4fg's to zerg it! or you might die!"

And btw is this the part where you say I'm some nerdy dork irl with octagonal spectacles and a labcoat, and say "OMG MATE IF I SAW YOU IRL I'D BEAT TEH SHIT OUT OF YOU" ?:x

And yes you're right to some extent, in that I actually don't give a flying fork as to your whine.

 

[Ramshir]

Originally posted by Flesh
Fyi, the words were " omg 1 mid inc, quick get 4fg's to zerg it! or you might die!"

And btw is this the part where you say I'm some nerdy dork irl with octagonal spectacles and a labcoat, and say "OMG MATE IF I SAW YOU IRL I'D BEAT TEH SHIT OUT OF YOU" ?:x

And yes you're right to some extent, in that I actually don't give a flying fork as to your whine.

No, the words were pretty much exactly as I said, it was at apk, and it was a direct insult, not anything as classy as that. Either you lie, or you truly insult people with such dedication you can't even remember all the incidents.

No, I would not beat the shit out of you. I don't know what you look like so I won't comment on that either.

Yes, I am right to at least some extent, and no, I did not expect you to care in the least.

 

[Flesh]

Originally posted by Ramshir
Yes, I am right to at least some extent, and no, I did not expect you to care in the least.

Why post then?

Originally posted by Ramshir
You have a sad life.

? ? ?

 

[stroopwafel]

Originally posted by mrdee
how you know i deleted my 40 firby bard

it broke my heart when you told me

ontopic: flesh is just someone who enjoys people flaming him

 

[minstrel_kyra]

Once upon a time I took Najwa's/Flesh's side. Even allowed him into our guild (big big BIG mistake). Ever since then he has done nothing but harass just about every female in my guild as well as other guilds.

He loves to play the victim, the innocent, the mis-understood. Most of my female friends in this game have at one point or another done the same, thinking if only he was shown some kindness that he would stop being such an ass.

Sad to say, he thrives on this. I won't go into details what he has put many fair ladies of Albion thru.

AS of late I have not had many dealings with him and I must say its probably for the best. One minute he's nice as pie (usually becauase he wants something) and the next he's spewing insults. Have I reported him? No because I always assumed that everyone else in Albion has and yet he is still around harassing people, calling them rude awful names. Next time I see him harassing any of my friends or guildmates I will report him.

I have in the past tried many times to give him a second ( and 3rd etc) but my patience has worn thin. Mess with me, fine. Mess with my friends or guildmates, and prepare to deal with the consciquences.


I feel awful that I was not around to report Najwa to his gm personally, but glad that Baritone took care of it. I am truly sorry that this had to be brought to the public light and I wish EA the best of luck with their new guild. I do believe in freedom of speech, but truly a line must be drawn to what is acceptable behavior. (and calling people c***s is not)

 

[venerable]

Originally posted by Ramshir
Either you lie, or you truly insult people with such dedication you can't even remember all the incidents.

He lies.

I showed a lot of tolerance with Flesh but one incident was too much. He organised a Sidi raid (non-TLW I might add) upon which I took my inf Uma. There was one other thrust inf on that raid: Artful. We were both delighted to see 2 assassin BPs drop and duly received one each. However, the azure eviscerator dropped, which you may recall is a thrust inf sword. So the least I'm expecting is to roll against Artful for this. Flesh doesn't announce the sword in the lotto, so I ask him about it afterwards. The response was "don't worry, once people forget about it you can have it".

So time passes and I ask Flesh about the sword. He then tells me he cannot give me it and I might have to lotto for it. I think fine and assume that Artful was after it too. So I ask Artful if he was keen on the sword and he replied that he has it already! I ask Flesh who else was keen on the sword and he stated that Artful whined to him about the sword. I mention this to Artful and he states that this is not true.

To resolve this I make a CG with both of them and state what each said. Flesh maintained his side and would not accept that both he and Artful never discussed the sword. I then mention that Artful has nothing to gain by lying as he has the sword already, but Flesh has something to gain if he did lie: the sword. Apparently Artful had only enquired about a different item with his alt. The shame of exposing Flesh's lies right in front of him did not sway him though.

Next thing that happens is I tell Flesh I'm disappointed at his behaviour. I can live without the sword, but I do not like "friends" lying to me, especially for personal gain. He then gives the "smart" remark of saying "I can't gain what I already have". Well, maybe so, but you can lose good friends though. He then states he was gonna lotto it to pay for excal doors (hmm right). Subsequently, he has tried to bait me on the boards by advertising to sell the sword. He has also made "jokes" about selling it to fund his mansion.

So Flesh has kept the sword and lost a friend. Sad really, as I helped his mincer a lot (without gratitude I might add, just "givf pwr lvl imo" a lot) and was always prepared to go on raids to help him complete his template (like the rare GSSM). Now I'm no longer available to help him with raids, I won't give him the paladin template I made for him and I won't give him any help with my crafters (soon to be LGM SC!). So he paid a high price for his greed and mendacity.

The ironic thing was on our raid to the Summoner I was prepared to give up the Silken Mantle to him if it dropped as I don't need it for any of my templates. He asked me and I said I would too. This act of kindness was completely overlooked when the reverse was possible, and over a standard Sidi drop. As I stated earlier, it's not the end of the world not having the sword (my template doesn't have to change now but it would have been nice); however, it is the end of any good relationship that we once had.

 

[Kahland]

Originally posted by chimaira
All realms has their fair share of scum.
Flesh happens to be 50% of alb pryd. other 50% belongs to Gohrim.

I´d just hope the money greedy people at daoc-europe gets something to put em away from game forever.

Hey Hey !"!!!! i want my percentage too!!!! 8]]]]

 

[Jonaldo]

What's all this about freedom of speech?
We're talking about an artificially created world ran by a company who can kill people and stop them returning at will.
There is no Fifth Amendment here.
Everyone knows Najwa is a twat, if he says something to you, report him.

It's not about fighting your own battles because it's a computer game.
It's not about running home to mummy because it's a computer game.
It's not about crying or whining because it's a computer game.
You may by now know that DAoC is, in fact, a computer game. There are rules to which EVERYONE must adhere to within this created world and when someone breaks them and gets reported to GOA it's nothing like crying or running off it's just doing the right thing.

Break rules - get banned. Simple as that. If people weren't o concerned about not wanting to look like some kind of coward or baby then your nemesis would've been out of the way a long, long time ago.

 

[greatred]

Originally posted by Flesh
Why post then?

? ? ?

Whether you care or not is irrelavant. What is important is that people know who and what you are from this thread and can base their judgement on inviting you to groups or guilds from (many) other peoples' experience with you.

 

[Kaitlyn]

So someone had an argument with Flesh and its time to bring out the pitchforks again.

*sighs*

Find a new witch to hunt this got dull months ago.

If he really is this anti christ you all say, then get screenshots and report him. All I see on this post, as many others, is hearsay.

 

[Flesh]

Originally posted by venerable
We were both delighted to see 2 assassin BPs drop and duly received one each. However, the azure eviscerator dropped, which you may recall is a thrust inf sword. So the least I'm expecting is to roll against Artful for this.

No you weren't grateful, blatantly obvious by the fact you weren't content with gaining one of the best infiltrator items in the game, after 1 raid.
The least you expect was to role for the sword too?
It was made clear several times before we even started that it would only be possible to gain 1 item.
Quite frankly you got the best inf item in the game, and then whine about wanting more more more, and you say it's me that's a greedy bastard?
Alot of people have been on more then 20 raids just to get the 1 item you received after 1 raid.. and they don't complain..but no you weren't content with having gained just that ..but wanted more..

And no, quite frankly I've lost nothing .. I now will soon have an LGM sc'er myself and I have a paladin template that caps every skill.
If anything at all, all I've lost is some whining greedy hypocritical spammer..
If anyone wants to call me a liar they can feel free to do so, and as they may have guessed.."quite frankly my dear, I don't give a damn." but when the person calling me a liar has just had a thread about him which proves he's just as obnoxious and as much of a liar as me, makes me chuckle.

And as of yet, every single sidi item not lotto'd for on my raid is still vaulted or in my invent, still on 100% con/dura/qual etc
And until I do anything with it, what right do you have to whine.
As we've seen it's blatantly obvious that you couldn't manage to organise a sidi raid.. so is this whine just you being bitter that I achieved what you couldn't on many occasions.

 

[Capricorn]

Originally posted by Omniscieous
We're talking about an artificially created world ran by a company who can kill people and stop them returning at will.
There is no Fifth Amendment here.

the spell is broken

 

[Flesh]

Well I'm still not banned, and the person involved in this matter told me I was reported..
If you think carefully you might be able to figure out the only explanation for it not resulting in a ban.

 

[venerable]

Originally posted by Flesh
No you weren't grateful, blatantly obvious by the fact you weren't content with gaining one of the best infiltrator items in the game, after 1 raid.
The least you expect was to role for the sword too?
It was made clear several times before we even started that it would only be possible to gain 1 item.
Quite frankly you got the best inf item in the game, and then whine about wanting more more more, and you say it's me that's a greedy bastard?
Alot of people have been on more then 20 raids just to get the 1 item you received after 1 raid.. and they don't complain..but no you weren't content with having gained just that ..but wanted more..

And no, quite frankly I've lost nothing .. I now will soon have an LGM sc'er myself and I have a paladin template that caps every skill.
If anything at all, all I've lost is some whining greedy hypocritical spammer..
If anyone wants to call me a liar they can feel free to do so, and as they may have guessed.."quite frankly my dear, I don't give a damn." but when the person calling me a liar has just had a thread about him which proves he's just as obnoxious and as much of a liar as me, makes me chuckle.

And as of yet, every single sidi item not lotto'd for on my raid is still vaulted or in my invent, still on 100% con/dura/qual etc
And until I do anything with it, what right do you have to whine.
As we've seen it's blatantly obvious that you couldn't manage to organise a sidi raid.. so is this whine just you being bitter that I achieved what you couldn't on many occasions.

More lies <sigh>

Actually this was my 5th raid in Sidi. Many people have seen me raid with Venerable. You're a fool making that remark as that's incontrovertible proof of your lying right there for the many Sidi raiders to see.

You never said anything about a one roll rule. You said I could have it. You're cheap and a serial liar.

LOL give me real evidence that I'm a liar. You've got none. So what I got a whine thread about me. You don't know the facts. That guy abused me in the game and logged before I had a chance to sort it out. He acted l33t and wouldn't listen, so I said my piece and closed my thread realising I was getting nowhere. If he wants to carry on with a new thread he can, but I've said my piece and he's on ignore now.

I told you already I can live without the sword. I've stated several times that the sword is not the issue...it's your continual lies and the fact that you even treat friends like shit. It took some time to figure out, but you really are the wanker everyone says you are. It never was about greed...it's about how obnoxious you are.

I have organised 2 Sidi raids so far, not several. One ended after we killed Silencer and Bane because of several bugged swords, and the other got wiped at the third lord due to severe lack of numbers. You cannot categorise your raids as a "success" merely because you had the numbers. I'm glad you admitted that you kept several items in your vault. People know that I gave away ALL items on my raids and can see the difference between me and you. I cannot see your raids attracting many people anymore now that you have openly admitted to keeping items. You've got no reason to keep them unless you're a greedy bastard. They should have been distributed long ago, or else you should set up a shop like TLW. If the positions had been reversed you would have got both items from me on one of my raids btw.

Finally I can whine because you said I could have the sword and then decided no. I'll expect you to lie and deny that too. What's the point in the sword sitting in your inventory gathering dust when you had the chance to make someone happy.

Finally, you had your chance to redeem yourself and present an olive branch, but you continue to ignore doing the right thing, ie honour your original *commitment*.

I'm tired of your continual lies and abuse. It's pointless trying to counter-argue with you as you just lie all the time. I wouldn't achieve anything anyway as most people have the same assessment of your character. I'm not wasting my time on you anymore. Welcome to /ignore in game and on the boards.

 

[Gwaen]

Originally posted by Flesh
Well I'm still not banned, and the person involved in this matter told me I was reported..
If you think carefully you might be able to figure out the only explanation for it not resulting in a ban.

i would like to say i havent talked to you since you called me a cunt and slag ingame and its pretty dam hard for you to do any more sends to me since i've added you to my ignore list.

why i have gone to goa its because once i realy thought you were a very nice guy but some where along the way you turned into to this realy nasty person you are today . i've asked you once why the hell are you picking on me you just stated that i am amusing to you . amd why havent i posted untill now its because your not worth it Flesh i pay to play this game i like hunting and rvring .

and lastly i didnt even tell you i went to goa or even talked.

 

[Flesh]

Originally posted by venerable
I have organised 2 Sidi raids so far, not several. One ended after we killed Silencer and Bane because of several bugged swords, and the other got wiped at the third lord due to severe lack of numbers. You cannot categorise your raids as a "success" merely because you had the numbers.

Your raid had 50 people, and died to a few bugged sword, my raid had 30 people and we got to Host then suicided because of a relic raid.
It has nothing to do with numbers whatsoever, I just actually have a clue about what I'm doing. Something you seem to lack both in-game and on the boards.

 

[Flesh]

Originally posted by Gwaen
i would like to say i havent talked to you since you called me a cunt and slag ingame and its pretty dam hard for you to do any more sends to me since i've added you to my ignore list.

why i have gone to goa its because once i realy thought you were a very nice guy but some where along the way you turned into to this realy nasty person you are today . i've asked you once why the hell are you picking on me you just stated that i am amusing to you . amd why havent i posted untill now its because your not worth it Flesh i pay to play this game i like hunting and rvring .

and lastly i didnt even tell you i went to goa or even talked.

I called you a slag not a cunt ..and I still think you're one..
Perhaps the reason you didn't go to GOA, was because there was more abuse in the pm's you sent me then the one's I sent you.
Unlike alot of whiners, I just don't give a fuck.
If it makes me an arsehole for not caring about the opinions of people I don't know, then yes..I am an arsehole..and proud too.

 

[NeonBlue]

Originally posted by venerable


LOL give me real evidence that I'm a liar. You've got none. So what I got a whine thread about me. You don't know the facts. That guy abused me in the game and logged before I had a chance to sort it out. He acted l33t and wouldn't listen, so I said my piece and closed my thread realising I was getting nowhere. If he wants to carry on with a new thread he can, but I've said my piece and he's on ignore now.

[/B]

this guy didnt abuse you in game...he merely told you to stop your spamming!...and called u a fecking noob a couple of times for doing so...sorry i shouldnt of said that was an insult to noobs !

real evidence your a lair? easy...look at ur screenshot LOL!

huscarls are NOT archers...yet the whole thread u made about me was based on the idea u was getting killed by archers...now either ur not as good as u think you are and dont know ur guards....or you made up the thread just to have a flame at me with ur lies

ill go for the last option personally!

And when ppl dont see ur point or listen to what u have to say, u play the victim and try make out ur offering the olive branch..make out that u tried to make up and put things right..which simply isnt the case...then u close ur threads and put ppl on ignore to strengthen ur case..

When infact all you are is a whinger who bad mouths ppl and when he doesnt get his own way or ppl dont see ur point...u throw ur rattle out the pram and put em on ignore

case closed....point proven....end of !

 

[Gwaen]

Originally posted by Flesh
I called you a slag not a cunt ..and I still think you're one..
Perhaps the reason you didn't go to GOA, was because there was more abuse in the pm's you sent me then the one's I sent you.
Unlike alot of whiners, I just don't give a fuck.
If it makes me an arsehole for not caring about the opinions of people I don't know, then yes..I am an arsehole..and proud too.

no Flesh you called me a cunt in say and slag in send if you dont believe ask donlo and a few others that was near you and me that night in wearyall. i like to know what i said to you Flesh as i remember you were the one doing the abusing not me.

i do have screenies of that night if you like i can post it on here for all to see also i dont give a dam what you think of me you just one sad little man with nothing better then play your sick games with peoples minds. as i said before i pay to play what i do in this game is none of your god dam bussines but then again you enjoy giving people hell dont you Flesh.

now if grouping with alot of peeps helping plevel my mates giving items to low levels makes me a slag then yea i am one .

 

[old.windforce]

Originally posted by Kahland
Hey Hey !"!!!! i want my percentage too!!!! 8]]]]

ok, 33% for Kahland/Marracus teh ew1l

 

[Flesh]

Originally posted by Gwaen
.now if grouping with alot of peeps helping plevel my mates giving items to low levels makes me a slag then yea i am one .

You know perfectly well it has fuck all to do with that..
feel free to post the screenshots btw..and make sure they're unedited.

 

[old.linnet]

<aside>

Heh, I remember in my days of student feminism, we preferred to be called cunts than to be called cows or bitches. Because one was anatomically accurate, whereas the others imply that you are sub-human/ animal.

 

[Kahland]

Originally posted by old.windforce
ok, 33% for Kahland/Marracus teh ew1l

\o/

 

[Vaire]

And -NOONE- has any screenshots of Flesh harrassing them?

 

[old.windforce]

i have

for blackmail purposes o/c

 

[Flesh]

I hope you're not going to blackmail with screenshots of me cyber sex0ring you

 

[old.Baritone]

Originally posted by old.linnet
<aside>

Heh, I remember in my days of student feminism, we preferred to be called cunts than to be called cows or bitches. Because one was anatomically accurate, whereas the others imply that you are sub-human/ animal.

Ill keep that in mind Linnet