Freedom of speach

[old.Baritone]

I dont really know where to start, Ok ill say the word, FLESH (Najwa), I know this person proberbly enjoys the attentoin he gets on these forums but enough is enough now.

Flesh has/is abusing female members of TDS, He upset my guild member last night by spamming abuse at her, The person was Gwaen/Galalissa, Im sure you all know her as a good person, She didnt do anything, I guess it was just her turn for his vile amusment.

He has spammed me as Paine in the past calling me a cunt over and over again, Not realising i was someone that helped him in the past in the old days when he was in PL.

I spoke with Bilz tonight GM of Evil Affiliated to try and make them realise what kind of person they had in thier guild, Bilz told me that he in no way could stop Flesh freedom of speech and that if Flesh had given someone abuse that they must has asked for it^^

As i said Gwaen is one of the nicest people in this game and would never be nasty in any way to another person in this realm.

Please i ask you my realm mates to please finally put a stop to Flesh and let him know next time you see him that this kind of attitude doesnt go down well in our realm.

 

[Lorath]

I spoke with Bilz tonight GM of Evil Affiliated to try and make them realise what kind of person they had in thier guild, Bilz told me that he in no way could stop Flesh freedom of speech and that if Flesh had given someone abuse that they must has asked for it^^

[/B]

Such things just ruins your guilds up coming reputation.

Good Luck EA.

Sad to hear things like this

 

[vincibility]

There's always /ignore. Also, if you have a log or a screenshot of the abuse I'd report him through rightnow if it is constant spammed abuse. I think that's the most sensible way of dealing with it.

 

[old.Baritone]

Aye people say do /ignore and its dealt with, But if someone is calling me a cunt i want to know about it and have it dealt with, You understand that right?

 

[vincibility]

Originally posted by old.Baritone
Aye people say do /ignore and its dealt with, But if someone is calling me a cunt i want to know about it and have it dealt with, You understand that right?

I understand that. That's why when someone calls you that, you take a screenshot, note the time, put them on ignore and send the screenshot to GOA. Then it's dealt with as far as you're concerned, right? I mean, better to just let them deal with it rather than get into huge flamewars with someone like Flesh?

 

[chimaira]

All realms has their fair share of scum.
Flesh happens to be 50% of alb pryd. other 50% belongs to Gohrim.

I´d just hope the money greedy people at daoc-europe gets something to put em away from game forever.

 

[ele]

After altercations within the guild tonight Flesh is no longer a member of Evil Affiliated. Not just for the reasons mentioned above however.

I'm sure Flesh will leave a nice colourful response to this post, I do however, all things considered, believe he plays his chars well. Best of luck for the future Flesh, sorry it came to this.

And..about bilz..are you sure thats what he said? maybe he might have said he cannot control what Flesh might say but to say they must've deserved it? Not the Bilz I have known for 12 months.

 

[mrdee]

I fail to see what Bilz and EA have to do with a arguement/slanging match between two people and it is a tad unfair to bring him and us into this.

If you can't give back as good as you get how the hell do you survive in the real world.....run and cry to mummy?

 

[Zaphod]

Originally posted by mrdee
I fail to see what Bilz and EA have to do with a arguement/slanging match between two people and it is a tad unfair to bring him and us into this.

If you can't give back as good as you get how the hell do you survive in the real world.....run and cry to mummy?

You sir, are an idiot.

 

[mrdee]

maybe so but I have always been one for fighting my own battles if someone gives me crap.

I just think it is out of order to even bring up Bilz and EA therefore trying to paint a picture that EA are bad people!

 

[ele]

Funny..I thought he was just voicing his opinion..really no justification for calling someone an idiot.

 

[stroopwafel]

so EA needs a pally? oO

 

[Flesh]

Tbh ..I find it funny that someone like yourslef is backing her up, when you don't know the reason for the arguement itself.. and fyi..she gave as good as she got.. and once again fyi.. you've probably made things worse by drawing attention to it, as now the matter will probably come out in the open.. which will probably end with her getting more crap.. gg played there. /clap

And yes, I left EA ..nothing to do with this.. just disagree with a certain GM ..who now comes here making out as if I was removed as a result of this? Then again that's very fitting of the "certain" GM's character. Then again that's noyfb.

 

[Flesh]

Originally posted by old.Baritone
As i said Gwaen is one of the nicest people in this game and would never be nasty in any way to another person in this realm.

Some advice:
You're defending a person you don't know well.
Bad idea.

 

[sanguineous]

Originally posted by stroopwafel
so EA needs a pally? oO

No... They got me

 

[bilz]

What i said was prolly taken the wrong way...

If person X works for company A and has a personal arguement with Person Y that works at company B, it doesn't seem right that person Z from company B contacts person P from company A to solve person X and person y's arguement.

All i can do was tell person X to please stop it and try to work it out with person Y, which i did. I really like see it fit to put anymore energy into it. I even talked to person Y cos i wanted to hear another side of the story.

Then person Z posts a post on a PUBLIC forum, to either slag of company A or person P. Now this, i dont understand. You complain for people slaggin others off, yet... 2 hours later, you are doing it yourself.

Just to recap, I did say i couldn't stop person X, that's totally true. I did say that he's free to express his oppion how ever he likes. I'm not god, goa or his mother, therefor i'm powerless.

You see, you going here and slaggin me off is the wonder of freedom of speech. You complain when someone uses that right against someone from your guild, but it doesn't take that many hours for you to siege that right and use it to your fullest potentiel. You can either be nice or be rude or even both. Person x, in this case, is rude. Person X is a nice chap, i've enjoyed spending some time with him in game. Even if he is abusive at times

Normally i would expect an apology from someone slaggin peeps off my guild or me. But i'm gonna ignore this post you made and write it off as fustration of accepting the world.

 

[kedilin]

Flesh The guild whore.

So how many guild you been in now??

 

[Garaen]

Sigh, yet another one of my post's was deleted by a mod. gg

 

[old.Baritone]

Originally posted by bilz


Just to recap, I did say i couldn't stop person X, that's totally true. I did say that he's free to express his oppion how ever he likes. I'm not god, goa or his mother, therefor i'm powerless.

No Bilz you are not god or GoA you are his GM, Thats why i choose to speak with you rather than speak to Flesh direct, Lets face it i wouldnt have got very far speaking to him about it

I belive that when a person wears a guild tag above there head thier actions reflect on that guild as a whole so maybe you guys are better off without him anyway.

I am sorry if i offended you Bilz and other members of EA by posting here, I was quite angry last night and after i logged took out my frustration here.

Next time i will screenshot what he says and send it to Kemor as suggested and let them deal with him.

 

[stroopwafel]

Originally posted by mrdee
therefore trying to paint a picture that EA are bad people! [/B]

But isnt EA evil then?

 

[tris-]

yes Bilz is right, he cannot stop Flesh' freedom of speech, but if Flesh lives in the UK then he has no right to freedom of speech anyway.

 

[Shirak]

Originally posted by Flesh
Tbh ..I find it funny that someone like yourslef is backing her up, when you don't know the reason for the arguement itself.. and fyi..she gave as good as she got.. and once again fyi.. you've probably made things worse by drawing attention to it, as now the matter will probably come out in the open.. which will probably end with her getting more crap.. gg played there. /clap

I'm pretty sure there many people like me out there, who've known what you are ever since you first showed it to albion with Najwa. I've also been very surprised and disapointed to notice, that there actually are people in our realm who offer sympathy for someone such as yourself

Aside from that, the reason I posted this was to say that whenever people see the name Flesh or Najwa in an argument, they really shouldn't have to consider which person it is that should be blamed.

Why is that you may ask? You've shown the world several times that you cannot act maturely in any situation. Your way of solving them is in ye good olde 12year-old-l33z0r way which definately makes most of us sick.

I know that posting this will not help anything. I'm not very good in reasoning with little children, and definately not lucky enough for you to have the wits to ask yourself if there is something wrong with you. Even íf you would push it really hard and actually have what it takes to ask yourself that, you most likely wouldn't come up with the right answer anyway

I do hope however, that more of my realmmates would fully understand what you are all about.

 

[ele]

Originally posted by Flesh

And yes, I left EA ..nothing to do with this.. just disagree with a certain GM ..who now comes here making out as if I was removed as a result of this? Then again that's very fitting of the "certain" GM's character. Then again that's noyfb.

I never said you were kicked Flesh..read the post properly, but if you hadn't have left you would have been kicked yes.

I was merely making the point to others that your name should no longer be associated with our guild.

 

[Lorath]

Apologies to Bilz.

Running a guild aint easy.
Missunderstandings can be made.

Nikath: You are my author of royalty

 

[mrdee]

Originally posted by stroopwafel
But isnt EA evil then?

I see evil as being something like wrapping your little brother up in duct tape and then carefully placing him head first into a toilet just used by a serial curry eater which I personally do as often as possible

 

[stroopwafel]

deleting a poor innocent firbolg
that's evil!

 

[SoulFly Amarok]

Good luck with najwa. Ignore & report works the best.

 

[mrdee]

Originally posted by stroopwafel
deleting a poor innocent firbolg
that's evil!

how you know i deleted my 40 firby bard

 

[Sharma]

Log, Screenshot, ban him.

I think Albion would be better off tbh ~~

 

[tris-]

hmm, but if you dont want to read abusive/swear words then why have the "bad-words filter" disabled?....