"free" ML's in patch 1.88

[Calo]

Seems like they are finally admitting that all they have done since SI is fecking up the game, trying to kill it and get ppl to leave.

I have 1 ml 10 have tried to get others some ml's but it's just so boring and takes hours on end. Without ml's certain chars are pretty gimped, atleast that seem's to be negated now.

No idea what kinda impact this will have tho.

Yes, the sole purpose of the company was to make as few money possible.
and you can get ml10 pretty easy and fast. Even when TOA was few weeks out it was not really that hard.

Actually , the ml's were great fun in the start, I made so many friends while doing stepts, helping guildies, leading lots of ml's.. was really great tbh.

Now it means jackshit getting ml10, so they might as well give it for free as they will do now.

 

[Drakulv]

This is probably a trick to get old people to come back to the game, people who RvR'ed and quit before ToA who has alot of BP laying about.

fun fun!

 

[illu]

It does cheapen it all - but I think it is a move in the right direction.

DAOC is really about RvR, the PvE is really quite tiresome, and doing MLs repeatedly over and over on different toons just isn't fun.
I've probably done ML1-10 about 5 or 6 times (only 1 or 2 ML rushes) and one of them finished off a relationship I was having :>

People just don't have the time to do it for every toon.

I almost wish I could clone my own toons to try different specs/races/genders but apart from on test servers - it will never happen :/

Oli - Illu

 

[Manisch Depressiv]

I've probably done ML1-10 about 5 or 6 times (only 1 or 2 ML rushes) and one of them finished off a relationship I was having :>

So what .10 mob spawned in your room and insta-killed your gf?

And, did your report it to the local police?

;-)

 

[Cromcruaich]

Don't regret the time on ml's youve spent, but thank god theyve finally done this.

It shows a recognition of what the core strengths of DAOC are, and where they are to be found - in the RvR endgame. ToA was misguided, people didnt want more PvE, but it forced people into it because of the imbalance between ToA templated and ML'd characters and those who werent. Think we all had quite a bit of fun on it though - and I still enjoy helping out people on guild arti raids.

So they should be applauded for this brave move - hard to let go of all that work development team put into those ML's - but ultimately it is absolutely the right decision. I hated ML's most of all.

 

[thergador]

I almost wish I could clone my own toons to try different specs/races/genders but apart from on test servers - it will never happen :/

Oli - Illu

wait for 1.89 patch theres a dev meeting video knocking about and you can pay premuim rates for everything you just asked m8(well on usa servers)

It shows a recognition of what the core strengths of DAOC are, and where they are to be found - in the RvR endgame. ToA was misguided, people didnt want more PvE, but it forced people into it because of the imbalance between ToA templated and ML'd characters and those who werent. Think we all had quite a bit of fun on it though - and I still enjoy helping out people on guild arti raids.

theres still quite a few players that are pve only there 3 or 4 albs guilds that are pve guilds(and i dont mean pve as in ac rr before any one starts)

 

[Cromcruaich]

theres still quite a few players that are pve only there 3 or 4 albs guilds that are pve guilds(and i dont mean pve as in ac rr before any one starts)

A very small minority i would of thought. Additionally, so called pve guilds generally contain many people who also enjoy getting out and rvr'in from time to time.

In anycase, i'm sure those people can still go through ToA if they like as an alternative means to getting the ml's (erm for whatever they would want them for).

Looks like a win win situation to me.

 

[dex]

found this with a price list


Experience / MLXP Scrolls
Back to Top Bounty Master's Insight 1% XP 10 Bounty Points
Bounty Master's Revelation 1% MLXP 10 Bounty Points
Bounty Master's Greater Insight 10% XP 100 Bounty Points
Bounty Master's Greater Revelation 10% MLXP 100 Bounty Points

Other Items
Back to Top Luminescent Abrogo Stone RA Respec 5000 Bounty Points
Star of Destiny ML Respec 5000 Bounty Points
Luminescent Cambiare Stone CL Respec 50 Bounty Points
Chestnut Horse Advanced Horse 1000 Bounty Points
Speed of the Hunt Speed of the Realm-like buff 10 Bounty Points

ToA Items
Not available on Gaheris. They are found near the Arbiter in ToA.
Individual Encounter Tokens
ML Cost Cumulative Cost
1.1 120 120
1.2 15 135
1.3 120 255
1.4 120 375
1.5 15 390
1.6 120 510
1.7 240 750
1.8 240 990
1.9 120 1110
1.10 300 1410
2.1 120 1530
2.2 120 1650
2.3 120 1770
2.4 180 1950
2.5 15 1965
2.6 120 2085
2.7 120 2205
2.8 15 2220
2.9 180 2400
2.10 240 2640
3.1 300 2940
3.2 300 3240
3.3 300 3540
3.4 300 3840
3.5 360 4200
3.6 300 4500
3.7 300 4800
3.8 300 5100
3.9 300 5400
3.10 600 6000
4.1 120 6120
4.2 600 6720
4.3 120 6840
4.4 240 7080
4.5 300 7380
4.6 300 7680
4.7 120 7800
4.8 180 7980
4.9 420 8400
4.10 240 8640
5.1 120 8760
5.2 120 8880
5.3 120 9000
5.4 120 9120
5.5 120 9240
5.6 120 9360
5.7 120 9480
5.8 120 9600
5.9 120 9720
5.10 525 10245
6.1 15 10260
6.2 165 10425
6.3 240 10665
6.4 240 10905
6.5 120 11025
6.6 300 11325
6.7 420 11745
6.8 270 12015
6.9 420 12435
6.10 540 12975
7.1 120 13095
7.2 120 13215
7.3 120 13335
7.4 120 13455
7.5 120 13575
7.6 120 13695
7.7 240 13935
7.8 240 14175
7.9 120 14295
7.10 825 15120
8.1 300 15420
8.2 540 15960
8.3 300 16260
8.4 300 16560
8.5 180 16740
8.6 300 17040
8.7 120 17160
8.8 360 17520
8.9 120 17640
8.10 615 18255
9.1 300 18555
9.2 120 18675
9.3 360 19035
9.4 480 19515
9.5 360 19875
9.6 300 20175
9.7 120 20295
9.8 540 20835
9.9 240 21075
9.10 600 21675

Whole ML Tokens
ML Cost Cumulative Cost
1 1410 1410
2 1230 2640
3 3360 6000
4 2640 8640
5 1605 10245
6 2730 12975
7 2145 15120

8 3135 18255
9 3420 21675
10 4800 26475

Artifact Scrolls
Page 1 of each book costs 10 bounty points, page 2 costs 100 bounty points, and page 3 costs 200 bounty points.
Artifact Encounter Credit
Artifact BP Cost
Alvarus' Leggings 470
Arms of the Winds 730
Aten's Shield 380
Atlantis Tablet 1040
Band of Stars 370
Bane of Battler 705
Belt of the Moon 400
Belt of the Sun 400
Bracer of Zo'arkat 1040
Braggart's Bow 515
Bruiser 880
Ceremonial Bracer 530
Cloudsong 535
Crocodile Tear Ring 525
Crocodile's Tooth Dagger 655
Crown of Zahur 550
Cycloptic Shield 490
Dream Sphere 530
Eerie Darkness Lighting Stone 530
Egg of Youth 535
Eirene's Hauberk 600
Enyalio's Boots 560
Erinys Charm 1020
Eternal Plant 480
Flamedancer's Boots 1210
Flask 850
Fool's Bow 575
Foppish Sleeves 660
Gem of Lost Memories 389
Goddess' Necklace 315
Golden Scarab Vest 515
Golden Spear 770
Guard of Valor 840
Harpy Feather Cloak 490
Healer's Embrace 475
Jacina's Sash 815
Kalare's Necklace 375
Maddening Scalars 530
Malice 650
Mariasha's Sharkskin Gloves 560
Nailah's Robes 530
Night Shroud Bracelet 690
Oglidarsh's Belt 405
Orion's Belt 319
Phoebus' Harp 520
Ring of Dances 525
Ring of Fire 510
Ring of Unyielding Will 289
Scepter of the Meritorious 505
Scorpion's Tail Ring 430
Shades of Mist 765
Shield of Khaos 640
Snakecharmer's Weapon 645
Snatcher 480
Spear of Kings 670
Staff of the God 840
Stone of Atlantis 620
Tartaros' Gift 920
Traitor's Dagger 410
Traldor's Oracle 580
Winged Helm 455
Wings Dive 440

 

[Muylaetrix]

could this be a prelude to the end of classic servers ?

if all the people on the classic servers could just buy the ml`s and artes with the accumulated BP, would they be asking party to be clustered with normal servers ?


intresting question really.

would the people on the classic english server like more to be clustered with a german server as is now or would they prefer to be clustered with excall/pryd and just buy their ml`s and artes ?

 

[Jun]

This is great news. Having to to do TOA kind of kept me out of RvR and made me move to Classic. Now I can finally be Ml'ed with my Prydwen ranger and Mentalist. good decision Mythic

 

[Phantomby]

could this be a prelude to the end of classic servers ?

if all the people on the classic servers could just buy the ml`s and artes with the accumulated BP, would they be asking party to be clustered with normal servers ?


intresting question really.

would the people on the classic english server like more to be clustered with a german server as is now or would they prefer to be clustered with excall/pryd and just buy their ml`s and artes ?

personally...not a chance. Its not just the time sink to get ML10 (something i never managed) but the stupid artis and iwin buttons on timers that make the combat a case of who has what up rather than skill playing your class.

Classic combat is much purer, class balance is closer, casters arnt stupidly OP with passive pierce spell damage and cast speed all maxed.

So in short i wouldnt hold your breath for a band aid to dyvet population (but i expect a few may return for these changes).

A good patch just years too late.

Maoixz 50 Sorc Gareth.

 

[rampant]

i can see what is coming next from mythic - spend x amount of bp's to get an instant lvl 50 char!!!!

All these changes dumb down the game even more - it will make everyone equal

 

[Kinetix]

One of the best changes mythic as thought of so far imho. Have 10 lvl 50 chars and most of them still need mls and having Uni+work i just cba to do ml1-10 X10

After the good implementation of Lab this one will rox go go mythic

 

[anioal]

well, lets face it.
the whole bounty points trick wont help the newb toons or the pve fans, but only the old rvr veterans that left the game before / because of toa and have plenty of bps left.

f.e. my rr8+ ranger has over 100k bps but my rr6 druid has about 20-25k bps and that's the amount needed for ml10. it's not like you powerlevel to 50 then buy the ml's cause you simply dont have the damn bps.

so, you dont have the rr's --> you dont have the bps --> you do ml's and arties and scrolls the old way --> nothing changed

 

[Funkdocta]

Don't regret the time on ml's youve spent, but thank god theyve finally done this.

It shows a recognition of what the core strengths of DAOC are, and where they are to be found - in the RvR endgame. ToA was misguided, people didnt want more PvE, but it forced people into it because of the imbalance between ToA templated and ML'd characters and those who werent. Think we all had quite a bit of fun on it though - and I still enjoy helping out people on guild arti raids.

So they should be applauded for this brave move - hard to let go of all that work development team put into those ML's - but ultimately it is absolutely the right decision. I hated ML's most of all.

I think ToA is the only reason DAOC is still going. Can you really imagine how stagnant RvR would have become after years of the same old shit. All the new gear abilities and stuff really shuck things up.

It was a grind yes and it did push a few people away from the game. But I think it saved the game in the long run.

 

[Funkdocta]

well, lets face it.
the whole bounty points trick wont help the newb toons or the pve fans, but only the old rvr veterans that left the game before / because of toa and have plenty of bps left.

f.e. my rr8+ ranger has over 100k bps but my rr6 druid has about 20-25k bps and that's the amount needed for ml10. it's not like you powerlevel to 50 then buy the ml's cause you simply dont have the damn bps.

so, you dont have the rr's --> you dont have the bps --> you do ml's and arties and scrolls the old way --> nothing changed

Its a bit late in the games lifespan to be worrying about bringing new people in to the game. When WHO is released DAOC will be dead within the year.