FreddysHouse Guild - Structure

[LordjOX]

Addendum (was to slow editing previous post)

True, as said before we need a few more individuals to be there for the guildies as officers or some other leader type.

So far we got:

Guild structure and leadership
Guild leader(s):
- LordjOX (Uncron)

Officers:
- chipper (PvP)
- BloodOmen

Members will be organized to accomodate both casual and hardcore players.
Both PvP and PvE players will be organized in specialized groups when the guild is fighting together. Like a mounted combat squad, heavy infantry w/ healers, sneak attacks, mage cabal w/ healers. etc (discuss)

Goals and ambitions
We want to create a tight knit and friendly guild in Age of Conan.
We want to help all of our members to:
- Achieve level 80
- Be integrated socially

We want the guild to:
- Own a player village
- Own a Border Keep
- Have regular PvE and PvP events

Thoughts about guild meetings ? In DAoC I remember from the early days we would have guild meetings where everyone sat in a circle and discussed guild stuff, lottoed items to the newer players etc.
PvE and PvP events each week is a must. Here the guild leaders and officers will have a vital role.

 

[ECA]

Not something I usually like to talk about, but I will if it helps. I've had a stutter since I was a child and i've only recently, since about two years now (i'm 34 years old), started getting some help for it. It's a lot better now, and most people can't even notice it anymore (or so they say at least) - but I think about it all the time and it's always in my head when I talk. And because of this I've gotten some kind of telephone phobia. I can call close friends and family, but it takes a lot of out me to just make a simple phone call to, for example, make a doctors appointment. Ventrilo is just as bad for me, if not worse..

It's a big handicap for me, and i'm trying to get over it as it's mostly in my head. But anyway there you have it. I hope to one day be able share the fun on those channels as i'm normally an extremely social guy.

Hi Levin,
I had major confidence issues a few years back as a mid teen ( extreme blushing and stutter development ) and I know it can be really rough but I would hope we are all mature enough to listen and not be douchebags about something like this if you did want to come on vent and not necessarily jump in the action so to speak.

 

[Levin]

Hi Levin,
I had major confidence issues a few years back as a mid teen ( extreme blushing and stutter development ) and I know it can be really rough but I would hope we are all mature enough to listen and not be douchebags about something like this if you did want to come on vent and not necessarily jump in the action so to speak.

Thanks. Maybe i'll be able to try sometime - I guess it helps to have told everyone about this from the beginning. Never done that before. Actually, before I started getting help for this, I came up with all kinds of excuses not to log into vent - instead of just telling the truth.

 

[chipper]

guild meetings are ok but keep it between the officers GM mebbe a few veterans etc otherwise it just becomes a mass of txt with everyone trying to have a say it just doest work and turns into chaos pretty quickly

best thing to do day or 2 before the meeting ask the guild if theres anything they think we need to discuss and stick in an agenda etc

most of my events will be planned for a weekend then i know most ppl arent busy and have plenty of time to do things

 

[Levin]

I don't agree Chipper. Guild meetings should be open to everyone in my opinion. Otherwise just call it for what it is: Officer meeting.

In my opinion, an open for all guildmeet can have a great function to fill. If everyone get to have a say under orderly forms, everyone would feel part of the guild and actually start to care for it instead of just feeling like unimportant minions. It doesn't mean democracy, it just means your voice is heard and taken into consideration by the officers, plus you get a chance to discuss it. I believe that is absolutely vital if you want the guild to succeed. It would only turn into chaos if everyone behaves like little kids, but from what i've seen so far this crowd is a lot more mature than that.

Also, these meetings will serve as a good opportunity for those who want to roleplay, for information and announcements to be distributed in a more personal way and if we are to have ranks, perhaps even for promotions.

 

[chipper]

which is why you let the guild bring up matters to be discussed frankly once a guild reaches a certain size it becomes very hard to manage and thats from first hand experience in 3 mmo's one of which had in excess of 150 active members they were mature people too for the most part but even they understood that was just too many ppl to have giving their oppinions so once a month (when we held our meetings) about a week before we would ask the guild if they had any issues and formed an agenda nothing was done in private in officer channels it was all laid out in the forums for all to see and comment on worked a charm

as i said you ask people if there are matters they wish to be discussed if it affects the guild as a whole then a vote can be taken, that way their voice is been heard if its something we feel they can greatly contribute to then they could be asked to join the meeting again this was something i encouraged while i was GM of celtic fist in WoW

40-50 ppl in IRC all wanting to be heard is a nightmare it becomes a stream of txt which most people dont bother reading its even worse in a guild chat tab where frankly most ppl will giv up even tryin due to such a small window

this is why you have a hierarchy in mmo's ive been GM and ive been a minion and i can respect all points of view these are the people that make the decisions ive never been in a guild that didnt have a hierarchy tbh i wouldnt want to.

forums are always their for discussion for the masses its a much more orderly method of discussion concerning large numbers hence why they are so popular

you can have the best intentions in the world and a full guild chat would start out well with ppl waiting their turn etc but eventually something gets said and everyone wants to put their opinion across tempers fray and it descends into chaos

 

[taB]

A friend's guild recruitment vid:

Anathema Guild

(He doesn't play Eve either so interesting name choice)

 

[chipper]

lets steal their guild name

 

[Levin]

which is why you let the guild bring up matters to be discussed frankly once a guild reaches a certain size it becomes very hard to manage and thats from first hand experience in 3 mmo's one of which had in excess of 150 active members they were mature people too for the most part but even they understood that was just too many ppl to have giving their oppinions so once a month (when we held our meetings) about a week before we would ask the guild if they had any issues and formed an agenda nothing was done in private in officer channels it was all laid out in the forums for all to see and comment on worked a charm

as i said you ask people if there are matters they wish to be discussed if it affects the guild as a whole then a vote can be taken, that way their voice is been heard if its something we feel they can greatly contribute to then they could be asked to join the meeting again this was something i encouraged while i was GM of celtic fist in WoW

40-50 ppl in IRC all wanting to be heard is a nightmare it becomes a stream of txt which most people dont bother reading its even worse in a guild chat tab where frankly most ppl will giv up even tryin due to such a small window

this is why you have a hierarchy in mmo's ive been GM and ive been a minion and i can respect all points of view these are the people that make the decisions ive never been in a guild that didnt have a hierarchy tbh i wouldnt want to.

forums are always their for discussion for the masses its a much more orderly method of discussion concerning large numbers hence why they are so popular

you can have the best intentions in the world and a full guild chat would start out well with ppl waiting their turn etc but eventually something gets said and everyone wants to put their opinion across tempers fray and it descends into chaos

Sorry, i think i misunderstood you a bit then. I thought you were saying guild meets should be held only between a few guys in a closed forum, after taking suggestions of topics from the whole guild.

I was a part of a rather big guild myself, in DaoC, called Order of the Knights Templar. I'd guess we were somewhere towards 150 active members as well at our peak. We never used any third party programs such as IRC for our meetings. Instead we would all sit down on the floor in the Cathedral in Camelot with the officers standing in front, keeping the meeting in order. If you wanted to speak, you stood up and after a while the meeting officer would grant you permission to speak. You spoke your topic and discussion ensued. People who couldn't follow the rules and keep quiet were warned, degraded, and then kicked out. If people had come up with topics beforehand or wanted to be anonymous and let the officers bring it up during meeting, they could be handled that way. But often people realized during the meeting that they needed to say something and they would stand up and eventually get the word.

In any case, these events were held weekly during the most intense periods, and they are always really fun. People could sit next to eachother and whisper, in-game couples would make a point of sitting with eachother for others to see, rumors sprung up, plots, etc.. it was great, and I think it added so much to the whole feel of the guild. And after the meets we would usually go on Keep raids, stealing some Mid or Hib keeps.

 

[chipper]

iirc order of the knights templar was a very heavy RP guild i actually had a friend in it am afraid i dont remember his char name was called edward tho if that rings a bell

an RP guild has a lot of discipline to start with you know what the gits are like on this forum

as always ill go for whatever ppl want but what i said is my preference doesnt mean itll see the light of day

it sounds like you had a lot of fun but you have to remember we are going to have alot of members who dont really want to RP


good vid that btw tab looks like they gonna be a big clan

 

[Levin]

iirc order of the knights templar was a very heavy RP guild i actually had a friend in it am afraid i dont remember his char name was called edward tho if that rings a bell

an RP guild has a lot of discipline to start with you know what the gits are like on this forum

as always ill go for whatever ppl want but what i said is my preference doesnt mean itll see the light of day

it sounds like you had a lot of fun but you have to remember we are going to have alot of members who dont really want to RP


good vid that btw tab looks like they gonna be a big clan

Hmm I don't remember an Edward, but that doesn't mean that there wasn't one in the guild of course.

About discipline.. yeah we had lots of it, but I think that could work whether you were roleplaying or not? Just the simple rule of wait-in-turn-before-you-speak would probably work just as well anyway, maybe? What I've seen so far of the AoC-interested people here, we seem to be a pretty mature crowd who could probably follow some simple rules. I have hope for us!

 

[fettoken]

<Self proclaimed raid leader> But as Frodo would have said: Tho i don not know the way

 

[LordjOX]

Well, as Levin pointed out. Guild meetings are one way to make everyone feel like being a part of something. Same with pve and pvp groups. We will also have a player village, probably with some sort of guild hall and I'd hate to see such game features being disused. I'll sort something out after we actually play the game, so no worries.

We just need people that are enthusiastic about the idea and hopefully will enjoy Age of Conan.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Well, no matter if the guild is semi-rp, as i can fit that into rp quite well.

Those weird guys, mortals by nature, talking of their human ways. Some thing they call leg-sphere or some such *laughs* has them in quite the babbling mood if you know. Yet, it's mostly the voices of the dark that come to me like scriptures before my eyes. Nothing to care for, except the important ones. Yes. The important ones must be watched carefully.

Anyhoo, back in the "real world", i'm going to be insane, powerhungry, very much a loonie by many definitions, so anything that happens isn't in the realm of normal for me.

 

[fettoken]

Tohtori, you´ll be the wise guy that cracks crushing lines at annoying people and pervert comments at the general "girl" population. Aka Bard!! And you don´t even need to roleplay it!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[old.Tohtori]

Tohtori, you´ll be the wise guy that cracks crushing lines at annoying people and pervert comments at the general "girl" population. Aka Bard!! And you don´t even need to roleplay it!!!!!!!!!!!

Hmh. Only thing i'll "crack" is your mothers ugly-cheeks and only thing perverted i'll ask an illustrator to paint for you

Bard my a**.

Unless i can be a demonbard

 

[Sharma]

I'm signing up.

 

[Hawkwind]

Pre ordered and would love to join the FH crowd.

 

[ECA]

A couple of points - the grind to 80 will take its toll on some people, some people wont get there and will quit the game early.

What we need during levelling is completely different from what we need at endgame.
Personalities will develop and show and we'll be much happier making big decisions at endgame rather than now in my opinion.

 

[Vasconcelos]

A couple of points - the grind to 80 will take its toll on some people, some people wont get there and will quit the game early.

What we need during levelling is completely different from what we need at endgame.
Personalities will develop and show and we'll be much happier making big decisions at endgame rather than now in my opinion.

Yep yep. Even tho reaching lv 40 is pretty fast, from that point onwards it gets slower.

Adding to that the issues of being in a a PvP server, some ppl might grow discouraged if they dont see any progress.

 

[LordjOX]

A couple of points - the grind to 80 will take its toll on some people, some people wont get there and will quit the game early.

What we need during levelling is completely different from what we need at endgame.
Personalities will develop and show and we'll be much happier making big decisions at endgame rather than now in my opinion.

Correct, we'll have to see how many will stick to Age of Conan. Rather than making it a waiting game for WAR for example. Atleast let's have fun those that think the game is good.

On a side note, the levelling is not as bad in AOC. I've read that you can reach level 80 in about 3 days /played by yourself (this might have been an extreme case). So to do the maths, is you play an average of 2 hours a day, then you can reach level 80 in about a month. I reckon the most eager of us might reach that in about 2-3 weeks though.

There are also quests that require groups or are recommended being done by groups.

 

[Levin]

Correct, we'll have to see how many will stick to Age of Conan. Rather than making it a waiting game for WAR for example. Atleast let's have fun those that think the game is good.

On a side note, the levelling is not as bad in AOC. I've read that you can reach level 80 in about 3 days /played by yourself (this might have been an extreme case). So to do the maths, is you play an average of 2 hours a day, then you can reach level 80 in about a month. I reckon the most eager of us might reach that in about 2-3 weeks though.

There are also quests that require groups or are recommended being done by groups.

I think the fast levelling people have reported is a BETA thing though.. I noticed it myself. Exp rates change all the time, and i think we can expect a slower pace after launch.

 

[ECA]

I think the fast levelling people have reported is a BETA thing though.. I noticed it myself. Exp rates change all the time, and i think we can expect a slower pace after launch.

It got ramped up a lot in last nights patch around 4x although devs said they overraised it in error.

 

[Vasconcelos]

It got ramped up a lot in last nights patch around 4x although devs said they overraised it in error.

Actually there was an issue of the .xml xp table per level. As soon as you get a new lvl the intended xp rate for this new built was addressed. Meaning, yes, in previous beta builds, testers had faster xp ratio than the intended for the release version just so we could have access to more content to test.

 

[Ctuchik]

yes for TS/vent, but ONLY if they are being used in raids and such. i hate to use those because no matter how hard i try i cant understand half of what ppl are saying. and those of us that do would only feel left out if TS/vent were to be used all the time.

 

[Levin]

cant understand half of what ppl are saying

Haha good point. I was at one time visiting my old Templar guildies in London and there were some of the British lads that I just couldn't understand because of their fast accent. I thought I was good at English, but I learnt that I'm really.. not!