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scooby-doo
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got caught with his dick between 2 biscuits,when questioned about this he said.
"dont worry in just fucking crackers"
"dont worry in just fucking crackers"
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mank
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lol! crap joke but still made me laugh :/
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I hear Frank Bruno got offered the job of manager for spurs.
Not even he was mad enough to accept it
Not even he was mad enough to accept it
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Sharma
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Today mental health workers stated Frank Brunos condition was "stable" until some twat rang the dinner bell.
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scooby-doo
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hahaha.
nice 1
nice 1
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~Mobius~
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Read it 3 times then got it. LOL.
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dr_jo
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Can anyone confirm what is actually medically wrong with him?
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Sharma
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Nervous Breakdown is what ive heard.
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adams901
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tbh the health system is fucked up, they dont want to know unless your someone famous.
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That's so wrong it's distressing.
Maybe you should rephrase that to "The MEDIA is so fucked up..."
The hundreds (nay, thousands/millions) of people suffering from mental illness in some form do get treatment, both through the NHS and privately from specialists like the Priory.
So no, the health system does not 'only care if you're famous', you just wont get called a lunatic* on the front of The Sun.
*Lunatic, which is also depressingly wrong when dealing with the incredibly misinformed public opinion on mental illness.
NB. "Despressingly wrong", no pun intended.
Maybe you should rephrase that to "The MEDIA is so fucked up..."
The hundreds (nay, thousands/millions) of people suffering from mental illness in some form do get treatment, both through the NHS and privately from specialists like the Priory.
So no, the health system does not 'only care if you're famous', you just wont get called a lunatic* on the front of The Sun.
*Lunatic, which is also depressingly wrong when dealing with the incredibly misinformed public opinion on mental illness.
NB. "Despressingly wrong", no pun intended.
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No the health system is fucked up and I am talking from first hand experiance.
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(Shovel)
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OK, so the health system went wrong for you because you're not famous?
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dr_jo
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So is Ben (Talking from experience I mean)
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Just my two penn'eth:
Mental health isn't funny. Don't joke about it.
Mental health isn't funny. Don't joke about it.
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Health system is fucking fantastic considering employees of the NHS are underpayed, overworked, under-appreciated and generally treated like shit by lots of people who expect miracles all the time.
Shovel got it right but fuck knows where adams901 is coming from.
Shovel got it right but fuck knows where adams901 is coming from.
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not me personally.
Someone close to me has tried to kill themselves on more than one occasion (over 6 times this year), overdoses, knives to the wrists, they are suffering from an illness.
Every time they have been taken to the hospital (not just normal hospitals) the hospital refuses to section them, and everytime they are released after a period of 24 hours, this is even after the police section them for 72 hours. Guess they wont be happy until the person in question finally does kill themselves.
I am referring to the person as they and them because I am trying not to make this to personal.
I'm sorry but I just get emotional when I read about celebrities who are taken in and sectioned at the drop of a hat, I'm pretty sure if the person in question was a well known star that I would not be here writing this and that he would have been "sectioned" after the 1st suicide attempt.
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Im not saying the employees are shit, im saying the system is shit.
Someone close to me has tried to kill themselves on more than one occasion (over 6 times this year), overdoses, knives to the wrists, they are suffering from an illness.
Every time they have been taken to the hospital (not just normal hospitals) the hospital refuses to section them, and everytime they are released after a period of 24 hours, this is even after the police section them for 72 hours. Guess they wont be happy until the person in question finally does kill themselves.
I am referring to the person as they and them because I am trying not to make this to personal.
I'm sorry but I just get emotional when I read about celebrities who are taken in and sectioned at the drop of a hat, I'm pretty sure if the person in question was a well known star that I would not be here writing this and that he would have been "sectioned" after the 1st suicide attempt.
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Im not saying the employees are shit, im saying the system is shit.
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Jonaldo
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You're blaming the health system because Frank Bruno can afford private treatment and is voluntarily seeking psychiatric help?
I'm sorry to hear about your friend but really you cannot blame the National Health. I don't know where they could put them. If they are treatable and not a lost cause then they really are better off out of some asylum under lock and key.
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Sectioning someone is not something to be done lightly. However "safe" you believe someone may be in a mental hospital or any other institution, if they are being held against their will (as with sectioning) then the danger to their life is actually greater in many cases than being left at home.
If the person wishes to be in a mental hospital, then sectioning is not appropriate.
If the person wishes to be in a mental hospital, then sectioning is not appropriate.
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Difficult one to answer, and I sympathise with those feelings. I do know what you mean.
To be honest though, can you name any other "celeb" that got star treatment at the drop of a hat? And even if you can, that still doesn't account for the many, many people suffering from mental illness who do get treated.
Bear in mind also, being sectioned is not the be all and end all of medical treatments. Just because someone doesn't get sectioned doesn't mean that that person is being refused treatment, unless they are being refused for something like "lack of beds" - in which case I see where you are coming from, abeit still rejecting the "celeb" priority acusation.
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If he's 'voluntarily seeking psychiatric help', why did they have to section him?
adams - does the person in question want to be sectioned? I only ask because you can ask to be admitted and generally they won't refuse unless you've only got a history of minor mental problems.
My experience of psychiatric units: people come out more fucked up than when they go in, doubly so if they get sectioned and forced to stay there.
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dr_jo
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Hospitilisation can help. But forced "confinement" very rarely helps. It can almost become a challenge to get away from the hospital and commit suicide.
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Well when they are sectioned their only thoughts are to get out and finish what they started, last time it took 6 police officers to keep them in, and that was with them ontop of the person in question.
Thing is they are fine for a couple of months then it all kicks off, depression returns, the alcohol bottles are found (from somewhere dunno where) and it all gets worse after that.
I just hope the person in question doesnt stumbles across this forum, I shouldnt really be talking about it here.
Thing is they are fine for a couple of months then it all kicks off, depression returns, the alcohol bottles are found (from somewhere dunno where) and it all gets worse after that.
I just hope the person in question doesnt stumbles across this forum, I shouldnt really be talking about it here
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dr_jo
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I think I'd be more worried about someone with depression reading this thread, and being severely hurt by the thoughtless "jokes" made at the beginning of it.
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mank
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hey, I found it funny I see your point thought, different strokes for different folks n all.
I see your point thought, different strokes for different folks n all.
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You have to laugh or you just cry.
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Rather generic comment, which might apply to some things, but with 1 in 4 people getting depression at some point in life, surely some things are worth the respect?
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Unfortunately, one part of the human condition is that we laugh at the unfortunate. Doing this helps us to deal with stuff that makes us feel uncomfortable. You no doubt know someone or have known someome with mental health problems, and I'm sorry if that is the case. My nan is also in a mental hospital, where she will remain until she eventually dies. But if we can't have a guilty chuckle at mental health problems because you know someone, then we can't laugh about Rod Hull falling off a roof because someone else knows someone, and then we can't laugh about war, or the Iraqi military or the Taliban (how much humour has come from these sources in the last few years?) and then all of a sudden no-one can laugh about prison, or Princess Diana or Irish people or ginger people, or anyone, or anything. And then there will be no jokes left.
No-one here thinks mental health is *actually* funny. And no-one means any offence. But if everyone declares certain subjects off-limits* then what is anyone going to laugh about any more?
Some sensitivity should obviously be exercised if joking about something when you know someone on the forum is currently going through something, but we don't all know exactly what is going on in everyone else's lives.
*Obviously, certain subjects are off-limits on here, but that's more to do with the actual content of the jokes and how it relates to the COC.
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HAvin Just come through 2 years of depression, I think Im entitled to laugh dont you?
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Just a bit of information for you:
Hospital staff will not often section anyone because of one incidence.Two doctors are required to agree to a sectioning order.
Accident and emergency staff have to make "judgement calls" the system cannot section everyone that comes in having injured themselves. As such they can be wrong.
If you believe someones life it at risk from themselves, you can get them sectioned (as I believe Frank Bruno was). To do this you need:
Members of family to petition to the sectioning (usually the parents). This should be done by contacting the families GP (or the persons GP). It is unusal for this to be denied.
The GP will then seek approval from a second doctor, and the section order will be in place and the person will be placed in a secure ward.
Below is just my opinion, and I'm not a doctor.
Sectioning must be a very frightening experience, as it in effect removes the persons rights with immediate effect. This can cause great distress in people, and potentially can worsen the effects of their depression in the short term before drugs/councelling can be administerd (6 police officers moving Bruno for example).
And remeber that suicide is now legal. If the doctors do not believe that the person is suffering form a mental illness, they are legally powerless to stop the person (unless there is a threat to the surrounding people as a result).
To section a "fit" person would have large rammifications (both legal and to their health)
Hospital staff will not often section anyone because of one incidence.Two doctors are required to agree to a sectioning order.
Accident and emergency staff have to make "judgement calls" the system cannot section everyone that comes in having injured themselves. As such they can be wrong.
If you believe someones life it at risk from themselves, you can get them sectioned (as I believe Frank Bruno was). To do this you need:
Members of family to petition to the sectioning (usually the parents). This should be done by contacting the families GP (or the persons GP). It is unusal for this to be denied.
The GP will then seek approval from a second doctor, and the section order will be in place and the person will be placed in a secure ward.
Below is just my opinion, and I'm not a doctor.
Sectioning must be a very frightening experience, as it in effect removes the persons rights with immediate effect. This can cause great distress in people, and potentially can worsen the effects of their depression in the short term before drugs/councelling can be administerd (6 police officers moving Bruno for example).
And remeber that suicide is now legal. If the doctors do not believe that the person is suffering form a mental illness, they are legally powerless to stop the person (unless there is a threat to the surrounding people as a result).
To section a "fit" person would have large rammifications (both legal and to their health)
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And adams, I beleive you are confusing the Sectioning act with treatment in the Priory.
The former is a legal detaining of a person with or without their consent. It does not matter if the Target volunteers for the section or not. The media has mis-represented sectioning like that several times. You or I cannot volunteer for a section order. Only put up a physical fight.
The Priory is a private hospital. You or I could go into the hospital and sign an agreement that we would not be released untill the doctors gave us a clean bill of health. First of course, you must be diagnosed. The priory does not (afaik) force such a contract on people, as many celebs have left "uncured". It is quite different from a petitioned sectioning.
The former is a legal detaining of a person with or without their consent. It does not matter if the Target volunteers for the section or not. The media has mis-represented sectioning like that several times. You or I cannot volunteer for a section order. Only put up a physical fight.
The Priory is a private hospital. You or I could go into the hospital and sign an agreement that we would not be released untill the doctors gave us a clean bill of health. First of course, you must be diagnosed. The priory does not (afaik) force such a contract on people, as many celebs have left "uncured". It is quite different from a petitioned sectioning.