FOTM Savage / Stealth Zerg , which flavour are you?

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Meddic

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Ok , been reading the various threads through-out the forum , and I think the biggest moan that Albs/Mids throw at each other is "Gah Stealth zergs ruin RvR" or "Bah FOTM Savage grps killed off Emain"

So I thought I'd start this little thread to mesure the two up an see which really is the ubah "bad boy" of RvR.

Lets look at FOTM Savage grps first:
ok , so they got a shamie, 2-3 healers, most likly a skald and then a bunch of savages. Yeah , its a very nasteh grp, if it came across a "tank group" from any other realm, it will probably own your ass an pound you into the ground faster than you could yell "Mezzed". -- What are the ways around this? Easy , if your grp cant handle it AVOID IT! When you see it coming through the mg, go the other way, if you didnt see it coming, you got crappy spotters an they should be slapped. Or, you could team up with a couple of stealthers, they take out the healers an you jump on the Savages, they only have studded armour! Soggy toilet roll is more effective!

Ok , Stealth zergs. Why do ppl give you so much greif? I agree, yeah, you have every right to get together with 1FG+ / 2FG and whoop anything that comes along. But lets face it guys, it sucks!
Stealth zergs have got to be the lamest thing I've ever had the displeasure of being killed by. The standerd make-up of your typical Alb stealth zerg is 2-3 mincers with the rest generaly Infils.
The mincer is an overpowerd class as it is, but when you put 3 or more together with lots of Infils, it becomes pointless. Lets look at solutions to a stealth zerg: ........ hmm ........... <thinks harder> ............. well you know? unless a big zerg just happens to turn up when your stealth zerg strikes, I cant see any way around you. We cant avoid you, cos your invisable! We cant fight you, cos your invisable! then when you do pop up , theres a lot of you, all at once, all over the place, with poison weapons and (overpowerd) CC from your mincers!

I just dont know how you've got the brass to stand there and Moan at Midgard when it gets upset about your zergs when a stealth zerg can own a ANY grp we throw at you!

So there you go, not bad for my first BW flame ! nice big eye strainer.

Ppl can go ahed and post beneath me weather they agree or not, tbh I dont really care, I just feel better for getting that off mah chest.
 
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Derric

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An RvR group that gets killed by a fg stealthers should never have left the PK. o0
 
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old.windforce

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think he means "adding"

there is so much QQ these days

fgs like info about enemie movement and QQ when you add

double morale imho

if you want true 8vs8 go counter strike or something
 
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Meddic

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actually , on the adding front, if I'm in a grp, and 1 or maybe even 2 SB's add to the fight , i'm not too botherd, because all it does is give our grp an edge, but when 1/2FG stealthers add, all that happens is a lot of your targets dissapear rather quickly, and your left with a fraction of the realm points you would of got for the death of the enemy grp.

And I'm not talking about about beating 1FG , its when 1FG+/2FG pop up (hate to use Rambo's guild zerg's as an example because thats an old story now, but its the only one that springs to mind)
Thats the problem.
 
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Cybwyn

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Christ all f'ing mighty. Another fotm group/stealth zerg thread. :bore:

Give it 2 pages and it'll be full of the same old posters posting the same old arguments rehashed, warmed-up, digested, regurgitated, warmed-up again, digested then finally excreted out the other end in the form of the same old shit that takes up thousands and thousands of pages on this forum.
 
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Ardrias_Mid

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Mmm... *gets the snacks for klav*

Come come! It says whine here!
 
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krait

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Originally posted by Cybwyn
Christ all f'ing mighty. Another fotm group/stealth zerg thread. :bore:

Give it 2 pages and it'll be full of the same old posters posting the same old arguments rehashed, warmed-up, digested, regurgitated, warmed-up again, digested then finally excreted out the other end in the form of the same old shit that takes up thousands and thousands of pages on this forum.

Agreed.

or Verbal Diarrhea for short. ;)
 
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old.Bubble

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okay
Savage zergs aren't too much of a problem, with a nice setup in a alb group you can beat them (We have with everyone less than RR6)Besides, savage damage is getting nerfed soon.

Stealther zergs, only effect the solo nightshade who spends 10 minutes walking from PK to emain to be killed by 6 infs and a scout. (Would that piss you off?)
 
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Chubby

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i gotta admit the stealthing groups are gettin out of hand big time. most mids mainly have 1fg stealthers. i was in one early this week 5 stealthers doing ok until albs had to bring almost 2fg didnt stop us trying though
 
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klavrynd

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So there you go, not bad for my first BW flame ! nice big eye strainer.

look for some words that pop up alot in the threads and make a new thread about it isn't exactly a flame. how bout you practice on paper some more before you start here please
 
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soullessminion

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For stealth zergs its simple, stop being such a Leet twat refuseing anything except your perfect rvr grp, and invite a archer class with truesight... stealthzergs arnt exactly known for there imagination so just camp mile gates, least with a Ts archer youl know if they are there :)


Fotm savage grps play the way they like to play :)

Stealth zergs play way they like too


result everyone bitches!!!


basicaly play as ya like and have fun
 
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old.diabolus

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ARE U FUCKING MENTAL ???

*1/2FG stealthers add*

when have u seen that??????????
 
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old.diabolus

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MORON

that was when we gathered for keeptakes :/
 
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Chubby

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Moron??

maybe if you where going to keep take i still know there was 2fg of albs trying to kill 5 mids

how an average alb calculates

8 mids outside apk mmmm :/

8 * 2 = 16 Albs reckon that would be just about enough
 
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old.Morchaoron

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from a quite neutral perspective:

perhaps you should examine the classes a little closer... infil is better them a sb thats true, however in a zerg it doesnt really matter anymore (the factor here is that the albs simply have much more infils then mids have sbs)

a solution would be to let a reduction happen in the stealth skill of stealthers when alot of them are very close to each other (of the same realm ofc), this would make sense aswell since 20 people cant hide in 2m by 2m square, and would force assassins to go solo again (unless they like having a effective stealth of 1 :p )


about savages, they are perhaps just a little bit too good, they are a hybrid without a power bar and have the highest melee damage in the game, where the merc must spec 2 specs for dw, and the armsman 2 specs for uber pole damage, the savage has it all in one, including various self only chants which they can do all at the same time for a little health lost which is nullified by the next spread heal, and i dont really see a reason why someone would level a berserker now other then using it to PF (i wont even talk about thanes heh...)

ahh well but its not just me the devs themselves who created it admitted it aswell ;)


also while were at it do something about det, give it to all tanks including hybrids like thanes and reavers, or make it less effective...
 
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Sharma

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All this whinging and nothing ever changes...

I wonder if there is any fucking point at all. :rolleyes:
 
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old.Morchaoron

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Originally posted by Sharma
All this whinging and nothing ever changes...

I wonder if there is any fucking point at all. :rolleyes:

no point, same as your post, all whines :p
 
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bone_idle

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Always seems to be mids moaning about albs. albs moaning about mids.

Why cant Hibernia have any characters worthy of moaning at. :(
 
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leviathane

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Originally posted by bone_idle

Why cant Hibernia have any characters worthy of moaning at. :(
cos their si classes are a bit shit compared to the necro, bd and savage. and mebbe reaver for 1on1's :m00:
 
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old.Morchaoron

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Originally posted by Sharma
At least you realise it. :p

at least i give a brief discription of the problem instead of "OMF FFS ZERG" :p
 
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gwyneth-love

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Originally posted by leviathane
cos their si classes are a bit shit compared to the necro, bd and savage. and mebbe reaver for 1on1's :m00:

Rofl :) Valewalkers own fyi .. some are even used in fotm groups.
 

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