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Xeanor
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Originally posted by amazingsteve
I think no Hib really cares what you think about them
You seem to.
You seem to.
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old.Morchaoron
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Originally posted by amazingsteve
I think no Hib really cares what you think about them
All albs left emain when they started zerging, so unless they like walking through a pretty ugly virtual golfcourse doing nothing, i dont think they were having much fun...
(eventually they went to odins cuz no one cba going back to emain)thats why i dont like zergs, they scare everyone out of emain and then there will be nothing left to fight...
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old.SadonTheGrey
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morch has a good point.
if hibs were 'defending their realm' then why didn't they do this for the last 2 years or so? :/
i agree with xeanor. the game is not about 1fg vs 1fg. 5fg vs 5fgs it just as fun, if not more. but i fail to see how 1fg vs 4fgs can possible ever be fun, it just seems pointless.
if hibs were 'defending their realm' then why didn't they do this for the last 2 years or so? :/
i agree with xeanor. the game is not about 1fg vs 1fg. 5fg vs 5fgs it just as fun, if not more. but i fail to see how 1fg vs 4fgs can possible ever be fun, it just seems pointless.
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You forgot the small stealther grpa that was running with you backing you up there somewhere
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Geees
You got zerged, get over it please
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You got zerged, get over it please
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Two questions for the original poster.
1. In what way is hibs in emain worse the the Alb alliance defending HW with 5+ FGs ?
2. How many times do You think any hib have been zerged by Albs in emain/hw/odins ?
1. In what way is hibs in emain worse the the Alb alliance defending HW with 5+ FGs ?
2. How many times do You think any hib have been zerged by Albs in emain/hw/odins ?
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old.SadonTheGrey
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1. In what way is hibs in emain worse the the Alb alliance defending HW with 5+ FGs ?
- Albs never zerg HW with such numbers without reason. The only reason there would be so many in HW is during/just before/just after a keep taking - general after about 30 - 45 mins after a fight at somewhere like Beno, most of us understandably get bored, since there's nothing to do. This is why I cannot understand the Hib zerg.
2. How many times do You think any hib have been zerged by Albs in emain/hw/odins ?
Many, but as I have always maintained, Alb zergs are not without reason. The age of zerging at random was over months ago, hibs simply haven't played for so long except for the RvR guilds that they haven't quite adapted to the 'new' way people play the game, which is small scale fights.
I'm not saying I support FG Vs FG. What I'm saying is that mass zerg warfare is ok if there is a reason. It just seems pointless forming zergs when there is nothing to fight - why, for example, couldn't the Hibs just split up in their groups? This would have resulted in Albs actually having fun whether we win or loose, since the fights were fair and square, increasing their chance of return thereby :-
(A) Increasing the number of confrontations in the coming hours between these alb that are willing to return the emain, looking for a good fight again, which is fun for both sides.
(B) More RP's for both sides due to the increased frequency of confrontations.
If Hibs want to zerg then please, do it for a reason. Fights involving 25 people on both sides are massively fun, noone can deny. But is 25 Vs 8 really that enjoyable? (Maybe if your a rr8 fotm group, fighting 25 rr2 randoms with no organisation.)
Lets not ruin this server. At the moment there's only one Mid guild operating a fotm group, and none in Albion. This is the perfect opportunity for casual players to have fun, don't throw it away by deterring anyone from coming to Emain simply because you like gathering iin dozens at AMG just to look at the grass.
- Albs never zerg HW with such numbers without reason. The only reason there would be so many in HW is during/just before/just after a keep taking - general after about 30 - 45 mins after a fight at somewhere like Beno, most of us understandably get bored, since there's nothing to do. This is why I cannot understand the Hib zerg.
2. How many times do You think any hib have been zerged by Albs in emain/hw/odins ?
Many, but as I have always maintained, Alb zergs are not without reason. The age of zerging at random was over months ago, hibs simply haven't played for so long except for the RvR guilds that they haven't quite adapted to the 'new' way people play the game, which is small scale fights.
I'm not saying I support FG Vs FG. What I'm saying is that mass zerg warfare is ok if there is a reason. It just seems pointless forming zergs when there is nothing to fight - why, for example, couldn't the Hibs just split up in their groups? This would have resulted in Albs actually having fun whether we win or loose, since the fights were fair and square, increasing their chance of return thereby :-
(A) Increasing the number of confrontations in the coming hours between these alb that are willing to return the emain, looking for a good fight again, which is fun for both sides.
(B) More RP's for both sides due to the increased frequency of confrontations.
If Hibs want to zerg then please, do it for a reason. Fights involving 25 people on both sides are massively fun, noone can deny. But is 25 Vs 8 really that enjoyable? (Maybe if your a rr8 fotm group, fighting 25 rr2 randoms with no organisation
.)Lets not ruin this server. At the moment there's only one Mid guild operating a fotm group, and none in Albion. This is the perfect opportunity for casual players to have fun, don't throw it away by deterring anyone from coming to Emain simply because you like gathering iin dozens at AMG just to look at the grass.
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amazingsteve
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heh, do we live in the same world?
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Lolz, you saying Albs have a reason to zerg and hibs zerg just for the cause of zerging.
amuzing ...
amuzing ...
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darkulf
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we have put up with ur damn zergs for 2years now we zerg and its all wrong u say..STFU and get lost will ya..
edit: u claim albs stoped zerging..what was the 3fg alb looking things running from apk to amg in odin today at 21,35cet ????
edit: u claim albs stoped zerging..what was the 3fg alb looking things running from apk to amg in odin today at 21,35cet ????
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hangianix
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Keeptake force. We almost got one from mids.
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darkulf
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keep take force ya right why we meet ya again close to hmg?
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hangianix
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Went to Bled and checked HMG 1st. And yes keeptake force. Ask some mids about it.
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darkulf
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how about the 6fg at HW then?? sure u just toke ur keep back but no need to zerg after that..oh no ur roleplaying...
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lol sorry can't help it but...
No-one zergs HW for no reason, it's just a rubbish zone. The only reason there are zergs in Emain is because it is the ONLY place to be guaranteed to find rvr at normal times. Then Odins gets zerged when Emain is either dead or too busy. HW is for Stealters or those too fed up for Odins and Emain.
I'm not in an RvR guild, and I've been playing DAoC on Hibernia Prydwen for, erm... 21 months now with a week break in Mid/Prydwen. And yes, I zerg, simply because I can.
Simply because you want to play the 'new' way, doesn't mean others have to. They play the game the way they want, and if you don't like it, tough.
I've lost count of the amount of times I've arrived at amg with either a full group or solo with my Ranger, and found it camped by 3+fg of Albs, sitting there doing nothing. And yes, they were sitting there cause I sat and watched them for 15 minutes reporting it on /as, and DC was in Hib hands at the time and was being attacked by another 4fg of Albs. Reason for Albs at amg? Were they stopping other Albs from joining in the DC attack cause there was too many attacking it to give the Hibs a chance? Nope, don't think so
(C)Increasing the chance for the Alb RvR groups to wipe the floor with the Hibs who are running as single groups, making the Hibs give up and go back to PvE and hence increasing the whines from Albs on BW asking where all the Hibs are.
Yeah, but it's never just 1 Alb group, it's 1 Alb group + stealthers.
I refer, once again, to the fact people play the game the way they want to. If they want to pay their subscription to sit "looking at the grass" then they can do that.
No-one zergs HW for no reason, it's just a rubbish zone. The only reason there are zergs in Emain is because it is the ONLY place to be guaranteed to find rvr at normal times. Then Odins gets zerged when Emain is either dead or too busy. HW is for Stealters or those too fed up for Odins and Emain.
I'm not in an RvR guild, and I've been playing DAoC on Hibernia Prydwen for, erm... 21 months now with a week break in Mid/Prydwen. And yes, I zerg, simply because I can.
Simply because you want to play the 'new' way, doesn't mean others have to. They play the game the way they want, and if you don't like it, tough.
I've lost count of the amount of times I've arrived at amg with either a full group or solo with my Ranger, and found it camped by 3+fg of Albs, sitting there doing nothing. And yes, they were sitting there cause I sat and watched them for 15 minutes reporting it on /as, and DC was in Hib hands at the time and was being attacked by another 4fg of Albs. Reason for Albs at amg? Were they stopping other Albs from joining in the DC attack cause there was too many attacking it to give the Hibs a chance? Nope, don't think so
(C)Increasing the chance for the Alb RvR groups to wipe the floor with the Hibs who are running as single groups, making the Hibs give up and go back to PvE and hence increasing the whines from Albs on BW asking where all the Hibs are.
If Hibs want to zerg then please, do it for a reason. Fights involving 25 people on both sides are massively fun, noone can deny. But is 25 Vs 8 really that enjoyable? (Maybe if your a rr8 fotm group, fighting 25 rr2 randoms with no organisation
Yeah, but it's never just 1 Alb group, it's 1 Alb group + stealthers.
I refer, once again, to the fact people play the game the way they want to. If they want to pay their subscription to sit "looking at the grass" then they can do that.
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No. We got our keep back and got msg INC. Next time we will split, 1/3 of the force will stay an craft, 1/3 will play cards and only the rest will go to fight with you.
After it we gone to suicide on HPK. (my grp at least)
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/waves
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old.Leel
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Eew, sorry for us sylvan blades zerging odins again last night, but we had one good fg and then you get tagalongs when they're not well set up with classes. I'm sure you know how it is. Started with two adds, then the number of adds grew as our kill spam got higher:-P Besides, I would feel real bad about denying those guildies that didn't get into our GOOD group coming along.
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Oh dear lord this is funny
1) Every realm is "guilty" of the so-called pointless Zergs, and anyone who denies it is just a bare-faced liar. Just because you don't do it doesn't mean that none of your 1000+ realmies doesn't either.
2) If we stuck to the above do you really expect that no-one would then inform the other Hibs when a fight broke out? "Oh I'm being hit, I may die. Hmmmm there's 2fg Hibs not far off - maybe I'll call them? Nah I'll just die - and then run back for more". Do you think anyone is going to do this?
3) I've said it before, and I've no doubt I'll say it again. The end game of DAoC is RvR - that's REALM vs REALM. Not 1v1, not 2v2, not Group vs Group. REALM vs REALM - take my outlook, every time I go out, be it buffed or unbuffed, solo or grouped, for a keeptake or just to hunt, I expect to run across 5fg of the enemy and I accept that.
Hibs have been zerged to death and got bored of it - that's why many took to perma-crafting and cash farming - also the fact that Foundations was due meant that many wanted to build up huge cash piles for housing (don't ask me why, I fail to understand it!)
Now they're back, they want blood and, by Brigit, they'll have it!! Fed up of being "zerged"? take a leaf out of the Hib book and stay inside your own borders for a few months and see how you begin to feel.
Things may balance out again, they may not, if not then you have two options - adapt or withdraw. We bring 3fg? you bring 4!
Oh and on a final note - last night I was in Hadrians with my Shade and saw 2fg Albs (looked guilded) sat around at MMG - having got a bit bored I decided to head home the easy way - wandered out into the open, sat down and de-stealthed next to them - at least 6 or 7 ran over to kill me. Going back to the quote at the top...
"Why, for example, couldn't the Albs have split up and just had 1 or 2 come and kill me?"
1) Every realm is "guilty" of the so-called pointless Zergs, and anyone who denies it is just a bare-faced liar. Just because you don't do it doesn't mean that none of your 1000+ realmies doesn't either.
2) If we stuck to the above do you really expect that no-one would then inform the other Hibs when a fight broke out? "Oh I'm being hit, I may die. Hmmmm there's 2fg Hibs not far off - maybe I'll call them? Nah I'll just die - and then run back for more". Do you think anyone is going to do this?
3) I've said it before, and I've no doubt I'll say it again. The end game of DAoC is RvR - that's REALM vs REALM. Not 1v1, not 2v2, not Group vs Group. REALM vs REALM - take my outlook, every time I go out, be it buffed or unbuffed, solo or grouped, for a keeptake or just to hunt, I expect to run across 5fg of the enemy and I accept that.
Hibs have been zerged to death and got bored of it - that's why many took to perma-crafting and cash farming - also the fact that Foundations was due meant that many wanted to build up huge cash piles for housing (don't ask me why, I fail to understand it!)
Now they're back, they want blood and, by Brigit, they'll have it!! Fed up of being "zerged"? take a leaf out of the Hib book and stay inside your own borders for a few months and see how you begin to feel.
Things may balance out again, they may not, if not then you have two options - adapt or withdraw. We bring 3fg? you bring 4!
Oh and on a final note - last night I was in Hadrians with my Shade and saw 2fg Albs (looked guilded) sat around at MMG - having got a bit bored I decided to head home the easy way - wandered out into the open, sat down and de-stealthed next to them - at least 6 or 7 ran over to kill me. Going back to the quote at the top...
"Why, for example, couldn't the Albs have split up and just had 1 or 2 come and kill me?"
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old.SadonTheGrey
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Excuse me? Ilum is the only person who makes RvR groups these days, then there's the odd Avalanche group. Right now with Flatline, Curse, Eclipse etc, Hibs have far more viable RvR groups than Albs.
I'm sure if all of Albion heeded your words of wisdom, Emain would be so much fun for everyone! I hope you enjoy milling around milegates looking for stealthers, because according to you, people who don't like the hib zerg should deal with it.
If Hibs actually believe this is a problem (which ofc, it is!) then isn't your attitude on the board simply perpetuating it? Albs will inevietably grow board if this hib zerg becomes a permanent thing. Already when you log on and do /who<rvr guild> there's very people online and most of them are infiltrators and buffbots. Its simply a viscious circle, takes a very small numbe of days to PL an overpowered infil to 50, so its what people do, thereby increasing the number of infils in emain and hence an increased likelehood of them adding into a fight.
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This topic is liek You sat on someones face for 2 years farting, and then someone liek came and sat on your face for 2 years farting, and then You liek complain about it.
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Originally posted by hangianix
No. We got our keep back and got msg INC. Next time we will split, 1/3 of the force will stay an craft, 1/3 will play cards and only the rest will go to fight with you.
After it we gone to suicide on HPK. (my grp at least)
oh I see, so thats why my group ran into 3fgs+ albs 4 times last night. Not saying u personally was there but... what we did in the end was teaming with some other people and killed all albs zergstyle since we got pissed off. Who provoked the zerging then? Hibs or albs? (psst, right answer is not hibs)..
As I said before, this is all just rubbish and Sadon, go buy a clue or two mate. You obviosly dont play on same server as rest of us do, otherwise you wouldnt post so damn stupid things. Your reasoning is just weird and make no sense at all atm.
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hangianix
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37 mids on Beno.
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Shike
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Originally posted by hangianix
37 mids on Beno.
I can understand if you wanna take back Beno with 6fgs.. but..
Beno and near hmgH is 2 diff things mate.
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Can't make a statement about the things what happened later. I know that we had a kinda large scale fight vs hibs in Beno Valley (2-3 mins after the keep retake) then we ran into 1-2 more fg's when was on way to hpk. (And no, we are not so noble souls to not leech some rps as PE and BO were - according to an old thread in General Discussion
)Our fg even died on 1.5-2 fg hibs + guards at hpk, not just on guards.
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thats what happened
Quite a while after the fights at Beno.