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[Grits]

BTW yanks. Is that ronpartmycheeks guy that chap you told us about with the mental problems?

Yep. Please dont judge us based on him.

 

[Grits]

one of the few reliable things in this world - the masses have fucking awful taste in music.

qft

 

[Son of Sluggish]

I'll give you guys music. You win hands down. My two favorite bands EVA are the Beatles and Radiohead. I can't imagine what music would be like without the two of those.

 

[nath]

I invented the term "agnostic atheism" to demonstrate the idiocy of so-called "soft-atheism". I thought you Brits were supposed possess the height of ironic sarcasm?

You either are an atheist or you aren't. If you can't make an absolute statement to the impossibility of the existence of a higher power you are agnostic.

If you do claim to be an atheist you are taking a leap of faith only surpassed by a Roman Catholic (and really only because of the incense and I bet a lot of atheistic rituals include incense too).

The fact that all babies are born atheists somewhat disproves your point. They're not taking a leap of anything, they also don't weigh up the idea of God vs No God and come to the conclusion that humanity can't ever know the truth of the matter. They *lack* any form of theistic belief and thus are atheists.

Beatles

The Stones shit all over The Beatles. Radiohead are jolly good indeed though. Thom Yorke's solo album is also pretty decent.

 

[Jeros]

When I was a kid, most kids I knew had braces at one point. I don't remember any of the kids complaining about it. It's not that painful.

Even at eleven years old, I could see that I would benefit later in life by having my crooked teeth fixed.

I understand that your NHS probably wouldn't pay for a cosmetic procedure, but we don't have that problem here.

Enjoy your new healthcare system!

 

[Krazeh]

I invented the term "agnostic atheism" to demonstrate the idiocy of so-called "soft-atheism". I thought you Brits were supposed possess the height of ironic sarcasm?

You either are an atheist or you aren't. If you can't make an absolute statement to the impossibility of the existence of a higher power you are agnostic.

If you do claim to be an atheist you are taking a leap of faith only surpassed by a Roman Catholic (and really only because of the incense and I bet a lot of atheistic rituals include incense too).

Seriously, just no. Atheism is the opposite of theism, i.e. it is the lack of belief. It has absolutely nothing to do with making a statement that the existence of a higher power is impossible. Yes some atheists may do that but that is above and beyond simply being an atheist.

In fact the only thing you've really got right in that piece of text is that you are either an atheist or you're not. You either do not have a belief in the existence of dieties and are therefore an atheist, or you do have a belief in their existence and are not an atheist. There is no leap of faith required in order to be an atheist; the fact that atheism is the lack of belief makes it incompatible with such a concept.

 

[Son of Sluggish]

The Stones shit all over The Beatles. Radiohead are jolly good indeed though. Thom Yorke's solo album is also pretty decent.

The Stones are a poor imitation. Thom needs Jonny like McCartney needed Lennon. OK Computer could possibly be the greatest album ever made.

 

[FWNuke]

The Stones have been together for 100 years and they still have not had the impact or the number of great songs the Beatles created in about 7 years.

Nobody will ever equal the Beatles.

The Stones are pretty unoriginal too. Fuck, they even went "disco" what that seemed to be getting popular. They are not anything special.

 

[Scouse]

No way did the stones shit on the Beatles. They were great tho.

As for Robbie Williams - as our own educational system follows the same sad and sorry route that the US system has taken our poorer children have forgotten what real music is and are becoming more than happy to suck on salty corporate man fat.

 

[Son of Sluggish]

no way did the stones shit on the beatles. They were great tho.

as for robbie williams - as our own educational system follows the same sad and sorry route that the us system has taken our poorer children have forgotten what real music is and are becoming more than happy to suck on salty corporate man fat.

truth

 

[nath]

The Stones are a poor imitation. Thom needs Jonny like McCartney needed Lennon. OK Computer could possibly be the greatest album ever made.

1) Given the entirely subjective nature of this argument all I can say is, bollocccccccks.
2) The Eraser was pretty good, and in my opinion better than a lot of Radiohead's most recent releases. Of course There There is utterly spine tingling, as is Go To Sleep.
3) I feel slightly dirty agreeing with you, but it is an incredible album.

No way did the stones shit on the Beatles.

Et tu Scousus?

 

[Son of Sluggish]

Seriously, just no. Atheism is the opposite of theism, i.e. it is the lack of belief. It has absolutely nothing to do with making a statement that the existence of a higher power is impossible. Yes some atheists may do that but that is above and beyond simply being an atheist.

In fact the only thing you've really got right in that piece of text is that you are either an atheist or you're not. You either do not have a belief in the existence of dieties and are therefore an atheist, or you do have a belief in their existence and are not an atheist. There is no leap of faith required in order to be an atheist; the fact that atheism is the lack of belief makes it incompatible with such a concept.

So... Is there a god or isn't there?

 

[FWNuke]

I remember when the press machine for Robbie Williams was prepping the American market for his debut. They were saying how great he was and that he was going to be a smash hit over here.

Then he came out with that boring shit song "Millenium" . Never heard him again after that.

Same thing happened in the 80's with "Franky Goes To Hollywood" and that horse shit song Relax.

 

[Krazeh]

So... Is there a god or isn't there?

It's not something I waste time thinking about. Why would I when I don't hold any belief in the existence of a diety or higher power? In exactly the same way I don't consider whether or not there are unicorns or fairies, I simply don't hold a belief that they exist.

 

[nath]

So... Is there a god or isn't there?

There is zero evidence for the existence of a God.

Do Unicorns exist or do they not?

 

[TdC]

unicorns are great with some bbq sauce, or maybe sweet chilli

 

[Son of Sluggish]

1) Given the entirely subjective nature of this argument all I can say is, bollocccccccks.
2) The Eraser was pretty good, and in my opinion better than a lot of Radiohead's most recent releases. Of course There There is utterly spine tingling, as is Go To Sleep.
3) I feel slightly dirty agreeing with you, but it is an incredible album.




Et tu Scousus?

Hail to the Thief and In Rainbows took a while to grow on me. When I first heard "Nude" I was really disappointed that they didn't record it like they performed it the few times they did. I bought Pablo Honey because of "Creep." I forgot about it for a year or so then started hearing all of this talk about The Bends. I bought that and never looked back. Great fucking guitar rock. OK Computer is transitional but is a fucking masterpiece.

 

[Krazeh]

unicorns are great with some bbq sauce, or maybe sweet chilli

Do you have any evidence of this? Or was it in fact a horse onto whose head someone had stuck a cream horn?

 

[nath]

Do you have any evidence of this? Or was it in fact a horse onto whose head someone had stuck a cream horn?

And how do you know it was BBQ sauce, perhaps it was just ketchup with soya.

Is there a god or isn't there??

Have you stopped beating your wife, yes or no? See, I can form questions that presuppose an answer. I lack belief in a God, I won't be forced in to falsely representing my views simply because you ask a leading question.

 

[TdC]

took me quite a while to get in to In Rainbows though. in fact, I actually told one of my music loving friends that I'd never buy it. took me a year to get over myself heh.

 

[Son of Sluggish]

The fact that all babies are born atheists somewhat disproves your point. They're not taking a leap of anything, they also don't weigh up the idea of God vs No God and come to the conclusion that humanity can't ever know the truth of the matter. They *lack* any form of theistic belief and thus are atheists.

Babies don't know about religion so being atheist doesn't require a leap of faith? Seriously?

 

[Son of Sluggish]

It's not something I waste time thinking about. Why would I when I don't hold any belief in the existence of a diety or higher power? In exactly the same way I don't consider whether or not there are unicorns or fairies, I simply don't hold a belief that they exist.

You are agnostic.

 

[Son of Sluggish]

There is zero evidence for the existence of a God.

Do Unicorns exist or do they not?

Answer the fucking question. Is there a god or isn't there??

 

[nath]

Babies don't know about religion so being atheist doesn't require a leap of faith? Seriously?

Agnosticism requires some form of concious deliberation, thus babies cannot fall in to that category. They lack any form of theistic belief, ergo they're atheists. QED.

 

[Scouse]

Et tu Scousus?

Beware of Scousers bearing gifts...


...they prolly stole them off you in the first place

 

[TdC]

Do you have any evidence of this? Or was it in fact a horse onto whose head someone had stuck a cream horn?

I'm sorry, the only thing you could have tested has gone down the porcelain telephone

And how do you know it was BBQ sauce, perhaps it was just ketchup with soya.

because it tasted like inferior HP sauce

 

[Krazeh]

Babies don't know about religion so being atheist doesn't require a leap of faith? Seriously?

Yes, babies don't know about religion and therefore cannot have a belief in the existence of a higher power, they are therefore atheists. What exactly about not holding a belief in a higher power requires any sort of leap of faith? To go back to the fairy/unicorn example, does not believing in them require a leap of faith?

You are agnostic.

No, I'm atheist. The lack of belief in dieties is the clue here.

Answer the fucking question. Is there a god or isn't there??

You answer the question about the existence of Unicorns.

 

[Scouse]

So... Is there a god or isn't there?

Who gives a fuck?

 

[Son of Sluggish]

took me quite a while to get in to In Rainbows though. in fact, I actually told one of my music loving friends that I'd never buy it. took me a year to get over myself heh.

I liked "Bodysnatchers" right from the start. The rest took some time.

 

[Grits]

Man, I just dont get the whole Radiohead thing. At one point or another I've heard all their stuff and I cant say I like any of it. Guys that I agree on pretty much all other music love em and I just do get it.