Forrest Sauvage

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eragrim

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This concerns the majority of the Albs playstyle.


As a daoc player I try my best to avoid the zerges since RvR tactics and zerges is a complete difference (and I prefare tactics and balanced/exciting battles). The majority of the players on Excalibur ports to Emain macha, which I would call general RvR (also called Zerging).
This means general RvR is not about tactics, only numbers.
This gives a great upperhand to be from Albion. I like to play in Emain in certain times of the day since then there are hardly any zerges, but on primetime Emain is imo some sort of farm for RPs, take for example the wave zerges between mmg and mtk. Albion waits for the Mids to approach, then they run us over as we try to flee to mtk. Then when the albs fallback we ress our dead and manage to kill a few that falls behind and then the process repeats itself.

very exciting

My guild and some other players which tries to avoid the zerges go to Forrest Sauvage. In the beginning we had great fun. We met players like Daivana among others. The battles were good and did not only involve gate camping etc.

Then we had an Albion reaction. The Albs gathered a zerge and we were heavily outnumbered, but we retreated to the tower in Forrest Sauvage and managed to survive and we slayed many albs within that battle. This was one of my greatest moments in my daoc career. The battle of the tower.

Though it lead to something very very boring.

Forrest Sauvage is nowdays dead. It seems that Albion doesnt like tactics etc, but easy RP in emain. Your realm defense is crap. The times we have ported to Hadrians and went for FS we have met no resistance at all. We even sieged Caer Renaris a few times and still no response. The times we have gone to FS we have been forced to suicide. It seems you only work in zerges.

You dont mind your forts unless the relic is in danger, and if it is, what happens? A Zerge comes to the rescue.

I must ask you, is zerging and easy RP what you prefare?

Perhaps it is the smartest way to work but it sure as hell is lame.

Face the invaders in FS and lets fight some good battles! Thats what the game is about.

Respect to Daivana and the other but few Realm defenders within Albion.
 
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-optical-

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Problem with sauvage these days is that too many mids go there...... i was part of the "old skool" sauvage crew, was a great place to get 1 on 1 fights etc and you could bring a small grp to sauvage and have some great fights.
Problem is, these days i think albs are too scared to enter sauvage(/who sauvage results in matches 90% of the time), thats why its dead most of the time.
 
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sorusi

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Erhm... like 80% of all the ppl doesnt know their way in alb frontier... nor in midgar (cant say i find to well there - manage to get there the slow way tho along borders ;) ).

And if you get lost in alb frontier you might end up getting slayed by dragons and other pesky mobs :x

Emain tho - safe for every moron who cant bother to learn a new place (alb/mid frontier).. just zerg, zerg, run amg - mmg, tower, DC, Crim etc.. etc..

sometimes i even wounder if ppl in daoc think when they play... like 95% of them are zerg-fodder they just run amg - mmg... feels like they are all bots lol...
 
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Ensceptifica

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Ya, Albion doesn't care about their keeps. Only if their relic seems in danger do Albs start to leave Emain.

I try to keep the roleplay aspect of the game a bit intact... Hib keeps belong to Hibernia. If they get taken, I organise a retake. If more people would look at the game that way, there would be a lot more diverse action in a lot more places.
 
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Ensceptifica

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Originally posted by sorusi
sometimes i even wounder if ppl in daoc think when they play... like 95% of them are zerg-fodder they just run amg - mmg... feels like they are all bots lol...

Ya, and for some reason, most of them just bought the game and thought 'oh cool knights & camelot, I'll join Albion' ( ;
 
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Skaven

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Originally posted by eragrim

It seems that Albion doesnt like tactics etc, but easy RP in emain. Your realm defense is crap.

GJ defending your strength relic earlier this week btw.
 
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Tiarta

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There is just one problem when hibs take Alb keeps.

and thats pbaoe, noone likes to get farmed.

and thats probably why so little is interested in takeing keeps back when hibs take keeps.

so rather get Hibs bored so they go home, for easy retake, but you probably have to be Alb to understand that.


Best regards
 
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Duryn

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lmao so true skaven.

Albion does protect its realm, but theres not alot of point coming out everytime a keep is taken as people enjoy playing rvr (wich emain is the place for).

Personally I'm not one of the emain types, I will go there maybe once or twice a week and thats during the afternoon. Other times I am out in sauvage along with the guild, but I am not gonna expect others to come from what they are doing just to retake 1 or 2 keeps which were more than likely were taken to have DF access.
 
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old.Wildfire

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"Forrest Sauvage is nowdays dead. It seems that Albion doesnt like tactics etc, but easy RP in emain. Your realm defense is crap. The times we have ported to Hadrians and went for FS we have met no resistance at all. We even sieged Caer Renaris a few times and still no response." ...so sayeth the Mid

Albion Relics
Strength: Albion
Power: Hibernia

Midgard Relics
Strength: Albion
Power: Hibernia

Hibernia Relics
Strength: Albion
Power: Hibernia
 
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old.LandShark

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Originally posted by eragrim
Respect to Daivana and the other but few Realm defenders within Albion.

Except that Dai's balanced-spec cleric got nerfed to shag and thus he no longer solos...
 
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loxleyhood

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I don't know why people hate zergs so much, DaoC is a co-operative, group based game, and the highest point of working together is to build a large army or 'zergs' as they are more commonly known. I hate it when people demand an end to zergs because they have no tactics and demand for 1on1 instead :p
 
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old.Nol

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only reason I don't like to zerg is framerate becomes unplayable...
 
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Arnor

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I don't know why people hate zergs so much, DaoC is a co-operative, group based game, and the highest point of working together is to build a large army or 'zergs' as they are more commonly known. I hate it when people demand an end to zergs because they have no tactics and demand for 1on1 instead

If a zerg is your idea of "working together", thats complete and utter bullshit.

It isnt working together when 50-120 runs from mmg-mtk and back, or from amg-atk and back. Thats fucking sheep walking in a line and back, theres no teamwork there!

Make a fg, maybe 2 and then run around and fight with other ppl with about the same numbers as you have, THATS teamwork my disillisioned little sheep.

When the fights actually involve some tactics, scouting, flanking and so on, THERES your teamwork, not in a zerg of mindless sheep.
 
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Kagato.

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Problem is, these days i think albs are too scared to enter sauvage

True for alot of people but theres still a regular bunch of us who go out there looking for one-on-one fights and small group skirmishes, i'd be out there alot more myself if I werent trying to hit 50 asap.

Have to admit, even I get lost in my own frontier sometimes, to bloody dark out there at night, can't see a damn thing. Is it just me or is alb frontier alot darker then odins or emain at night ? Wouldn't want to try navigating pennines at night, them great brown drakes are nasty for those of us that prefer solo rvring, never see them till you come over the hill, then wham!

If you want more zergless action in sauvage, hang around between the boader keep and the tower in the woods, we'll find you eventually :D
 
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Danya

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Odin's is light because of the snow. Albion isn't darker in particular, but the brown ground does it no favours. As for drakes, never really have problems, they don't roam that much, so they're no problem if you stay out of the spawn. :p Pennine isn't that much more dangerous than Breifine really (wraith drake anyone?)
 
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old.anubis

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the worst thing about sauvage is that half of the ppl roaming there are with res sickness :)
 
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Khalen

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Exactly as Optical says. Normally I could find some Mids or Hibs solo there but nowadays they even come with FGs each time to gank the solo people (really brave in that). And then they start complaining no Albs show up so they can get rps? Come on are you really that low?

I could say the same for Midgard... I can walk from apk to both borderkeeps without seeing a single mid. (Hence our last relic raid on Mid with not a single sole who spotted us earlier...) This is all result of the things that have happened earlier in the game (lots of xp killing, AE keep defenders, etc.) Please don't start saying other realms suck, look at your own one first and see what it has done that it came to this... Remember that there are always 2 sides in something.
 
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eragrim

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Forrest Sauvage is nowdays dead. It seems that Albion doesnt like tactics etc, but easy RP in emain. Your realm defense is crap. The times we have ported to Hadrians and went for FS we have met no resistance at all. We even sieged Caer Renaris a few times and still no response. The times we have gone to FS we have been forced to suicide. It seems you only work in zerges.


I really like how some of you reflects over your succesfull relic raid and show me some relic info as I maid this statement above.

What I was reffering to was how you handle your keeps.

And isnt it strange when Albion contains almost 50% of all the souls in this realm that you dont have all relics?


I hope some of you understood a glimpse of what I meant in my post earlier.
 
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Aussie-

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Originally posted by -optical-

Problem is, these days i think albs are too scared to enter sauvage


or is it you that's too scared to enter Emain?? T_T
 
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Kagato.

Guest
And isnt it strange when Albion contains almost 50% of all the souls in this realm that you dont have all relics?


We've proven we can get power relics back when we try, but defending Myrrdin is near on impossible no matter how tidy you keep the frontier, the nearest bind stone is miles away without so much as a horse route from it to help. See the other thread about this in the General forum, even Mythic acknowledge this problem. And even if we did get all the relics, as a result the Realm Keep super guard numbers drop dramatically to make it easier for the relics to be taken back, its pointless.

p.s, Agree 100% with what Khalen says, but I can't be bothered to quote it :D
 
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-optical-

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Originally posted by Aussie-



or is it you that's too scared to enter Emain?? T_T

Dont play excal anymore, deleting my skald, one of the main reasons is the quality of rvr on this server. RvR on US servers will be alot better, plus i wont have to wait years for SI...
 
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Aussie-

Guest
fyi there isnt 1 server with more RvR activity then Excal
more activity = more skill/quality

if you check seer you'll see that excal has alot
#1 classes World/EU
 
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Archeon

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Originally posted by old.Wildfire

Albion Relics
Strength: Albion
Power: Hibernia

Midgard Relics
Strength: Albion
Power: Hibernia

Hibernia Relics
Strength: Albion
Power: Hibernia


Enjoy it while you can, i'l be using merlins staff to pick my teeth with by this time next millenium ;)
 
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old.Sepiritz

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Albs playing in 2fg vs 2fg? That would mean we lose almost every time. You keep forgetting we dont have any instawin buttons or aoe stun. Until they fix our classes we will zerg. ;)
 
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Belomar

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Well, pitching in quite late in the thread here, but a lot of Albion guilds went to Midgard yesterday and managed to take 5 out of 7 keeps (Bledmeer was held by Hibernia). And the reason we didn't take the last Midgard keep (Arvakr) was not due to diligent defending, but rather that we lacked rams and the Arvakr doors are far too tough. :) Anyway, with this and the fact that we met around 3-4 FG Mids (many of them grey/green/blue) in all while roaming the Mid frontier (well, at least until we got it into our tiny minds to camp Svasud) in mind, it does seem a bit hypocritical (is that a word?) to say that Albs are not interested in defending their realm.
 

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