Formula 1

[Johnny Bravo]

Reading that other thread about the Mclaren, thought I would post this up for deabte. I don't know if anyone is still interested in Formula 1 after last years debacle, but I read this morning about the changes sprung into action for this season.

*No Electronic assistance, such as launch control, traction control and fully auto'ed gear boxes.
* No spare cars at any race
* No radio contact between drivers and their teams
* No pit-to-car or car-to-pit telemetry
* All cars locked up after qualifying, with any emergency work carried out under strict supervision.

Personally I think its a great step to take, hopefully putting a lot more skill back into the hands of the drivers and away from the boffins.

Drivers will also now have to take much more care of their cars on the morning of the race as they wont have a duplicate ready to jump into. F1 just got a little bit of interest back

 

[~YuckFou~]

Those are radical changes, I'm assuming the teams aren't happy about them at all.
I'm a die hard fan and still watched every race last year, not the best season, but sometimes that happens in footy too doesn't it? (I hate footy) At the end of the day though Big F still have the best team/car/driver/tactics so will win anyway. It could throw some surprising results up though.
First race Melbourne March 9th, can't wait

 

[old.Jas]

Still not good enough.

Bernie Ecclestone needs to get some of these knocked up by his lackys.

The skill involved in driving one of these puppies undoubtedly outstrips that required to pootle around a circuit in an F1 car.

 

[~YuckFou~]

Originally posted by old.Jas
Still not good enough.

Bernie Ecclestone needs to get some of these knocked up by his lackys.

The skill involved in driving one of these puppies undoubtedly outstrips that required to pootle around a circuit in an F1 car.

Eau Rouge at 170mph is hardly pootling

 

[dysfunction]

I dont watch it much but those changes sound very good to me.

I cant stand to see that arrogant arse Schumacher winning more races!

 

[~YuckFou~]

Originally posted by dysfunction
I cant stand to see that arrogant arse Schumacher winning more races!

Thats arrogant cheating arse

 

[Lester]

Is that Formula 1.6 update then? That must be what they're all talking about on in the c.s.forum.

 

[Johnny Bravo]

Originally posted by oldlester
Is that Formula 1.6 update then? That must be what they're all talking about on in the c.s.forum.

ROFL...N1

Just had a look at a couple of F1 web sites and it appears some of the teams are behind the changes. Probably the teams that couldn't get their electronic aids to work that well and those with older drivers who know how to actually drive a car are those with the least concerns.

I'm not a fan of Scumacher but he has a good point when he say's the changes will possibly effect the younger drivers the most as they have grown up learning their trade with these gizmos already in place.

I still remember Mansell going on the podium with a bandaged hand where he had made so many *manual* gear changes he had worn most of his glove away and blistered up his hand

 

[prime1]

I never understood the attraction of F1, its so borin, you watch for hours as cars go roudn and round, theres hardly any over taking outside of the first 10 laps, the only excitment seems to come in when , or how quickly someone does a pit stop. wow.

 

[S-Gray]

Originally posted by prime1
I never understood the attraction of F1, its so borin, you watch for hours as cars go roudn and round, theres hardly any over taking outside of the first 10 laps, the only excitment seems to come in when , or how quickly someone does a pit stop. wow.

same for me too

 

[Johnny Bravo]

Thats whats so wonderful about the human psyche, people like and dislike different things

Some *sports* which people adore and love will bore the pants of other people and vice versa.

Personally I love all motorsports but find F1 the pinacle of the genre, admitidly its become very sterile in recent years but there have been exciting moments. I still remember getting up in the middle of the night to see Damon Hill and Jaques Villeneuve win the title in their respective last races in Japan.

Nowadays its a case of watching it in the hope schumachers car blows up or someone has the balls to take him out

 

[~YuckFou~]

Originally posted by prime1
I never understood the attraction of F1, its so borin, you watch for hours as cars go roudn and round, theres hardly any over taking outside of the first 10 laps, the only excitment seems to come in when , or how quickly someone does a pit stop. wow.

You need to be a fan, if you are not it will bore you to tears. However thats why they are making the changes, because last season was very processional, and the worst for a long time, in fact ever.

 

[prime1]

fair enough, i prefer toruing cars or rally as there seems to be a lot more action in that. although im not really a fan of any motor sports.

 

[Durzel]

I think the proposed changes are great, especially:

* No Electronic assistance, such as launch control, traction control and fully auto'ed gear boxes.

Im gonna go out on a limb and say that I don't think it would be that difficult for a regular car driver to drive an F1 car fast, after a lap or so. Fair enough they would be miles off the pace but I still reckon it would be possible for most drivers experienced in other apex-clipping pursuits like go-karting, etc to get around a track within the qualifying time.

As an aside, I've never really understood the point of traction control in a powerful F1 car. I presume they must have an LSD at the back, but surely the engines are so powerful that they negate any traction "control" you could hope to achieve. Where actually is the traction control going to transfer power to?

 

[Johnny Bravo]

The way I understand Traction Control to work, is the unit realises when the traction envelope has been reached and traction is about to be lost and will either reduce the engines RPM or more usually reduce the differential (by some sort of clutching system) so there is less power going into the wheels.

You can hear when a car is using Traction Control because the engine is screaming louder than it is actually going, kinda like driving your road car and pressing the clutch down to the biting point

 

[~YuckFou~]

Originally posted by Durzel
Im gonna go out on a limb and say that I don't think it would be that difficult for a regular car driver to drive an F1 car fast, after a lap or so...............to get around a track within the qualifying time.

You could probably "drive" it, assuming you didn't stall at the go. Get within qualifying time? More chance of finding 2 tons of rocking horse shit in your driveway.