for fear of starting an intelligent debate....

[Stazbumpa]

Erm....I understand that modern day calculators are normally at least as powerfull as the computers that sent man to the moon (allegedly).
If this is the case then how did they accomplish 3 moon landings, which would be a fairly precise manoeveure, using fairly crap kit.

I only ask these questions as I dont like to assume things, and also because the USA has probably the most obssessively secret government in the world and a fake anything is not beyond their capability.

There are other factors to take into account on this whole moon thingy, but as its 3 AM I'll look them up and post tomorrow.

 

[Embattle]

It's still fairly basic calculations, some done by *shock horror* the brain

 

[*Exor*]

Originally posted by Embattle
Damn it must of been hard to fake all three landings

Actually, there were 6 landings on the moon

 

[*Exor*]

Also, if you actually think any of them were faked, your brain is made of dogshit.

 

[Embattle]

So they did, damn fakes....all of them I tell you

 

[Wij]

If the moon landings were so obviously fake the the Soviet scientists would have noticed in the 70s and dedicated all their efforts to proving it.

Or maybe I'm an alien planting thoughts in your brain to cover up the fact that we run the US government for the purposes of expirmenting on you !!!"£!!23

/edit: Ooh, that's a thought. Since most conspiracy theorists believe that the US has been examining UFO technology since the 40s and that that's why they did so well in the space race, shouldn't getting to the moon have been a piece of piss

 

[Embattle]

At launch, the shuttle’s two solid rockets consume more than 9.07 metric tons (10 tons) of fuel each second and produce 44 million horsepower, equal to 14,700 locomotives. Future improvements for the solid rocket boosters include improving the steering system and changing the propellant manufacturing process....

Now thats some BHP

 

[-Ultimate]

At launch, the shuttle’s two solid rockets consume more than 9.07 metric tons (10 tons) of fuel each second and produce 44 million horsepower, equal to 14,700 locomotives.

Bet the bloke down the Esso garage was well chuffed when the shuttle pulled in and the pilot asked for the tank to be filled while he went to buy a mars bar.

 

[mr.Blacky]

The Ultimate Conspiracy

Before this turns out to be a yes and a no argument here comes the biggest shock:
THE WORLD IS FLAT
yes believe it! have you ever seen the world (if you have you were doped by secret gov agents in black suits)
Its a hoax and we all believe it. All evidence in favor proves it and all evidence against it is made up.
believe me.......
oh no man in black suits have to ..............

 

[Sar]

Originally posted by ignus
FFS he showed his stupidity by thinking that the Earth could produce enough light to represent a light source in space equal to the suns.

Moonlight - stong enough to light up pitch black nighttime so you can easily see where you're going.

Earth in the sky = a fair bit bigger in the sky than the moon from earth. Hence why the level of reflected light is several magnitudes greater.

I personally don't give a shit whether we've been or not, I wish they'd hurry the fuck up and produce proper fucking spaceships and warp engines.

Vulcan has some serious fucking hot babes.


Well, according to Enterprise anyway.

 

[Wij]

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G33333333333333333333333333k !!!!!!!6

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[Stazbumpa]

It is a custom for all fit Vulcan women to allow complete strangers to shag them anally, however illogical it may seem.

 

[Wij]

Intelligent debate ???

 

[Stazbumpa]

Dont be daft.

 

[mr.Blacky]

Originally posted by Wij
Intelligent debate ???

Where ?

 

[-Ultimate]

Originally posted by stazbumpa
It is a custom for all fit Vulcan women to allow complete strangers to shag them anally, however illogical it may seem.

After all the spam in the thread some1 finally starts the intelligent debate bit!

 

[mr.Blacky]

that aint an intelligent thing thats a wish

 

[Daffeh]

hmmm noone seems to have mentioned about the radiation belt between the earth and the moon, although the name of it escapes me atm.

apparently the Ruskies realised that this radiation would most probably seriously fuck up the astronauts / cosmonauts, and therefore was a major reason why the russians never went, and many professional physicans and astrophysicians claim the landings are faked.

we have to remember that the LEM was only a few tenths of a centimetre thick of tin foil, and its doubtful that the suits would block out that radiation.

missions such as MIR and the ISS do not go deep enough into space to penetrate this radiation belt, and so havent suffered any consequence of it.

there are so many pieces of conflicting evidence both for and against, and the only way we can truely find out, is either NASA declaring its all been a fake, the Japanese probe not finding the evidence (which NASA could probably then find an excuse for) or if we do indeed go back and see.

i think a further point not touched is that the actual footage might be faked, but Apollo 11 and subsequent landings did take place, but more footage was made, or something, so they reshot it back on earth, the Directors Cut if u will

but as a whole i think space and researching space stuff is fascinating....but maybe thats just me

 

[old.Kez]

My hugely blinkered mind questions why people find space so fascinating, its utterly barren. Its like some sort of black sloshy desert.

 

[old.ignus]

Originally posted by Sar


Moonlight - stong enough to light up pitch black nighttime so you can easily see where you're going.

Moonlight (insert very large gap here) daylight

my original point states a light source equal to the sun, your brain has to be made of dog shit to think that the moon or the earth's (in fact put em together if you want) light source is equal to the sun's.

Did anybody hear the theory that the moon landings were a fake because the astronauts were walking through alien ruins. The same with apollo 13, they were on the moon but they found alien technology. Now that is complete bollocks.

As I said before I believe they are fake because I seriously want the world to laugh at the yanks. I don't hate all Americans, just the patriotic ones and the entire US government, and all of holywood so about 99% of them at least.
You all seem to be Yankie sympathisers, next you'll be saying they won the war, and that U571 was an very factual and interesting film that portrayed the Americans as the fine brave men they are.

 

[old.ignus]

Originally posted by Kez
My hugely blinkered mind questions why people find space so fascinating, its utterly barren. Its like some sort of black sloshy desert.

I wonder why people are so fascinated by football, its so dull and boring and such a girls sport.

 

[old.Kez]

Originally posted by ignus


I wonder why people are so fascinated by football, its so dull and boring and such a girls sport.

I can't help but imagine you saying that with a snide tone. Shame I dislike football.

ps. People enjoy Football for the entertainment value; the same can hardly be said for space - kind of a null analogy of yours really.

 

[old.ignus]

Originally posted by Kez
I can't help but imagine you saying that with a snide tone. Shame I dislike football.

ps. People enjoy Football for the entertainment value; the same can hardly be said for space - kind of a null analogy of yours really.

actually no it wasn't it was a way of showing you how people's opinions differ, I don't find space entertaining, I do however find it fascinating and in certain areas interesting. Football was the first thing that I find extremely boring that came into my head as I have to put up with a bunch of football obsessed freaks where I work who'll dump way too much money of some overpriced player to score a hat trick against some shitty little town in the middle of nowhere. They're usually glued to the TV screen looking at the results and it makes me wonder how anybody can be so interested in such shit.

*disclaimer*
This post was not very well thought out due to the poster suffering from insomnia, after toying with the idea of editing and cutting/adding some stuff the poster of this thread decided "fuck it" If it makes no sense or offends anyone in anyway. Get over it will ya its just a bit of fun!!!!

 

[*Exor*]

Originally posted by ignus

my original point states a light source equal to the sun, your brain has to be made of dog shit to think that the moon or the earth's (in fact put em together if you want) light source is equal to the sun's.

Awww, he used my dog shit term, I'm touched.

Let's see, trust a scientist guy who's setup a very informative, and factually correct website, or, trust ignus on the BW MB. I know who I'm going to take seriously.

If you think the Apollo missions were faked, you are just the thickest most utterly shit twat on the entire planet. Even a monkey has enough common sense to work out that it would be _IMPOSSIBLE_ to fake such an event, and keep it quiet for this long.

Go back to your X Files videos.

As I said before I believe they are fake because I seriously want the world to laugh at the yanks

That means that you WANT to believe they were faked, not that you actually BELIEVE they were faked. Saying something like that just makes you look stupid.

I can't believe you want to find out that mankinds greatest ever technological acheivement was fake, and that all the times we've celebrated and learnt about it were wasted. You're an idiot.

 

[old.Jas]

Originally posted by ignus
your brain has to be made of dog shit to think that the moon or the earth's (in fact put em together if you want) light source is equal to the sun's

Exactly - what do you see in the sky at night? Other suns (stars) not other planets you dumbfuck

 

[Wij]

Though it seems strange to say it, I agree with Exor

 

[-Ultimate]

Originally posted by Mr.Blackshirt
that aint an intelligent thing thats a wish

Ah, but its an intelligent thing to wish for

 

[*Exor*]

Sorry, just wanted to point out the irony surrounding the topic of the thread...

"for fear of starting an intelligent debate.... "

ignus has demonstrated himself to be anything but intelligent.

 

[xenon2000]

Originally posted by *Exor*
That means that you WANT to believe they were faked, not that you actually BELIEVE they were faked. Saying something like that just makes you look stupid.

That pretty much holds true for all of Ignus' arguments in this thread. Just deciding to hate an entire nation for no particular reason is irrational, and pointless. I'm sure most Americans would say similar things about you however, Ignus.

 

[mr.Blacky]

Originally posted by Daf
hmmm noone seems to have mentioned about the radiation belt between the earth and the moon, although the name of it escapes me atm.
apparently the Ruskies realised that this radiation would most probably seriously fuck up the astronauts / cosmonauts, and therefore was a major reason why the russians never went, and many professional physicans and astrophysicians claim the landings are faked.
we have to remember that the LEM was only a few tenths of a centimetre thick of tin foil, and its doubtful that the suits would block out that radiation.
missions such as MIR and the ISS do not go deep enough into space to penetrate this radiation belt, and so havent suffered any consequence of it.

Radiation belt? there is more radiation in space yes and the only protection is the atmospere, proof more radiation at top of everest then on sealevel. Deadly on the long term yes shortterm no unless a solarflare. MIR and ISS will have just as much trouble, though ISS more caus it is in a higher orbit then MIR. tin foil? as protection :sleeping: though the spacesuits do give protection not that much though.
That the ruskies never went was caus there space knowledge was at there top, they didn't go caus they couldn't go. If their spaceprogram wasn't politicised they could have gone but Chroestjev used it as a circus and a propaganda machine instead of building a good foundation