for fear of starting an intelligent debate....

[Summo]

I was suggesting that the moon was originally a land mass which would have occupied the Pacific, not that we should put the moon back there...

Mind you, the Earth was one land mass in a huge single ocean in them thar days so its all immaterial anyway, innit?

 

[mr.Blacky]

ok true whats been broken up doesn't always have to be whole again, just like well several relationships i had rofl

 

[Mellow-]

Sun = Large sphere of boiling exploding lava and other hot um ... stuff

Saturn = windy gassy sphere.

I'm guessing that since most of the planets are forced to orbit the sun rather than saturn that the gravity of it would be larger.

So basically if you listen to that and not the fact that i've just realised the sun is quite a lot larger then i'm right

/me runs off

You're all obsessed with astrology!!!

 

[Wij]

Stars like the Sun are mainly made mainly of Hydrogen and Helium and they need to have a HUGE amount of mass to start fusion properly. If they don't have enough mass they become Brown Dwarves and stuff. You can't make a star without enough mass.

 

[old.Fweddy]

but havin too much mass could cause a few problems too.

dam those pesky black holes.

 

[Mr B]

Originally sprouted (sic) by ignus
see Mr B tried to be smart by countering the evidence (badly) even though it was the crappy evidence and not the real good stuff, plus he was wrong about certain things.

Yeah, wasn't bad for 30 seconds work was it?

Where's the good stuff and what was I wrong about?

Please bear in mind that the comments were made after an extremely cursory viewing of the evidence and without using google to look up stuff like the mass of the moon (I guess at 1/6th of the earths).

huh? well? come on then - I'll take you all on!!!



B

 

[mr.Blacky]

its late at night for me so i can say the good stuf is in a bottle and is called beer

 

[old.Jas]

Indeed - 'cept mine came out of a tap attached to a pub

 

[old.ignus]

Originally posted by Mr B


Yeah, wasn't bad for 30 seconds work was it?

Where's the good stuff and what was I wrong about?

Please bear in mind that the comments were made after an extremely cursory viewing of the evidence and without using google to look up stuff like the mass of the moon (I guess at 1/6th of the earths).

huh? well? come on then - I'll take you all on!!!



B

So you haven't seen the video evidence? if you've only seen the still photos then you've missed most of it.

You were wrong about the flag thing, you said they stuck a rod through it to keep it up. They were actually talking about it fluttering with what looks like the astronaut trying to make it look as though it was difficult to plant in the ground.

Ok for all you believers answer me one thing. If it was real how the hell did the camera pan up when they left the moon, was it on a piece of string?

 

[Embattle]

Must of made another two fake videos as well

 

[Stazbumpa]

Originally posted by ignus

Ok for all you believers answer me one thing. If it was real how the hell did the camera pan up when they left the moon, was it on a piece of string?

Bloody good question which has been bugging me for years. You see the top part of the lander shoot off into space from the moons suface and the camera thats trained on it actually follows the fucking thing as it goes up. My only theory is that this was footage that a bloke they left on the moon took as he made his way back to the landing sight slightly late.
What NASA never mentioned was that this bloke found a note under a rock which said

"Dear Fred, where were you? We waited and waited, but...."

Actually, a theory about the moon reckons that it controls the earths spin on its axis and because the moon is getting further away from earth (roughly 1 inch every few years) it could mean that earth may stop spinning altogether one day.
Then we will be fooked.

 

[Embattle]

Naa we wouldn't....we would just get cold

 

[Stazbumpa]

Actually we'd get baked on one side for 6 months then on the other for the next 6 months. Total daylight then total darkness.

Not fun.

 

[Embattle]

perfect

 

[Mr B]

Ok for all you believers answer me one thing. If it was real how the hell did the camera pan up when they left the moon, was it on a piece of string?

A better question would have been "How did they get the footage from the camera?"

...and then you would have answered your own question - ie the images were transmitted and the camera was mounted on a servo-controlled tripod for exactly the purpose of getting the shot.

I must admit, I can't even remember the camera panning upwards, from what I can recall is that the angle of the shot widened as the landing craft got higher...but perhaps it's my mind plapping tricks on me - if that's the case, then getting that shot and controlling the camera remotely is even easier...

Too much X-Files IMO, just stick to letching at Scully rather than paying any heed to the storylines.



B

 

[*Exor*]

Let's lay this one to rest once, and for all, chaps!

Click Here!

 

[Mr B]

Nice page, obviously investigated the hoax for longer than my 5 mins.

Oh and the irony of it mentioning the X-Files after my previous post.



B

 

[Wij]

Good site Exor

 

[Hashmonster]

interesting site exor

 

[Mellow-]

For goodness sakes! We've been there, we had radio controlled cameras and solar winds or low gravity caused the flag to look like that. Deary me.

 

[Embattle]

Any one seen The Planets?

 

[old.ignus]

Originally posted by *Exor*
Let's lay this one to rest once, and for all, chaps!

Click Here!

HAHAHAHAHA

I'm sorry but I've never heard so much bollocks in all my life. Obviously this guy is American and is so upset that his "Great" nation has been offended that he's made a load of shit up. Air dampening a ripple effect? Oh look the surface of the moon is so weird it can make light disappear and reappear where it wants. FFS he showed his stupidity by thinking that the Earth could produce enough light to represent a light source in space equal to the suns.
If this guy is a scientist as he claims to be he must have studied art science or something stupid like that.

As I said, the Japanese are sending a probe so if they don't find anything we can all point at laugh at the yanks and their believers for being the lying twats they are.

 

[Wij]

don't be so dumb. man has been to the moon. fact. end of.

 

[old.ignus]

prove it.

the only reason I like to believe they didn't is so the world can stick 2 fingers up to the yanks, end of.

 

[Embattle]

Damn it must of been hard to fake all three landings

 

[old.Kez]

Except that if you assume for one minute that there is a conspiraty coverup, you must also assume that the American will avoid the Japanese report becoming public knowledge; thus the coverup would continue.

The idea of a conspiracy is a dirty spiral of insanity.

 

[Summo]

Originally posted by ignus
prove it.

the only reason I like to believe they didn't is so the world can stick 2 fingers up to the yanks, end of.

I personally don't believe that any government (and certainly not the US) has the power and capacity to maintain these top-secret generational conspiracies we seem to like. JFK, Roswell... all just good stories in the same vein as Orwell's 1984.

Can you honestly see the US government successfully faking the moon landings to the point where we're still 'fooled' more than 20 years later when they can't even cover up the fact their president once had a blow job by a member of staff?

All just good stories that make you go ''oooh, maybe...' and that's all.

 

[Wij]

Originally posted by ignus


HAHAHAHAHA

I'm sorry but I've never heard so much bollocks in all my life. Obviously this guy is American and is so upset that his "Great" nation has been offended that he's made a load of shit up. Air dampening a ripple effect? Oh look the surface of the moon is so weird it can make light disappear and reappear where it wants. FFS he showed his stupidity by thinking that the Earth could produce enough light to represent a light source in space equal to the suns.
If this guy is a scientist as he claims to be he must have studied art science or something stupid like that.

As I said, the Japanese are sending a probe so if they don't find anything we can all point at laugh at the yanks and their believers for being the lying twats they are.

Your arguments don't actually address his points at all. If you read them you'd see they were answered. As for the bit about him speculating that maybe the Earth cast a shadow, he's not a big scientist or anything. Where he's got things wrong they've been corrected. Not that you actually NEED really good science to debunk most of this conspiracy theroy bolox. It's just laughable. "Ooh look if you speed the film up it looks a bit like the buggy is travelling on Earth, except for the bits when it doesn't, which we haven't shown."

Complete arseflakes

 

[old.ignus]

If the Americans try to coverup the Japanese report, it would either cost them a lot of money or a lot of soldiers. Shame it isn't the Chinese, even the size of the American army is nothing compared to the Chinese army. Anyway enough of that.

Wij if you read the whole thing he claims to be a scientist or at least someone calls him a scientist and he doesn't deny it. To me he sounds like an overpatriotic american.

I'm willing to believe anything, and at the moment I belive that not only should I go to bed but the moon landings were fake. You can't change that unless you show me the flags, and what ever they left behind on the moon as proof, as the video and photo evidence is flawed. Or give me a strong cup of coffee.

 

[old.Kez]

Originally posted by ignus
If the Americans try to coverup the Japanese report, it would either cost them a lot of money or a lot of soldiers.

And if it were the case that it had all been fraud, I don't doubt that the Americans would make sure it was sealed away - your whole idea of a conspiracy falls down if you believe that a group of people who kept the world in darkness regarding fake moon landing would not attempt (and probably suceed) to cover up the japanese unveiling.

ps. I fully believe we've been to the moon, and I fully believe I don't care. Space is utterly shit; and until the human race is advanced enough to actually travel in space [I don't class going to the moon as space travel by far, its just a step outside the back door] for any length of time, with any degree of success, space will continue to be mundane and shit and pointless.

I'm tired, I cannot be bothered to re-read this to see if it makes any sense, begone.