[Football] Transfers

[Wonk]

If Hleb really wanted to stay, then Wenger would mention it. I sadly don't think there's a good harmony in the arsenal squad. Flamini probably left for the same reason.

 

[Vladamir]

what a suprise, chelsea snipeing man utd's priotiry signings

If Man Utd had met the valuation then they wouldn't be in this situation

 

[Corran]

If Man Utd had met the valuation then they wouldn't be in this situation

Well man utd are simply not as willing to throw money around at any player. Make an offer, if they put a silly value on it then dont instantly agree. Take time to assess options.

Chelsea way is, offer 5 times what a player is worth just to make sure no one else can afford them/use them (SWP and Sheva )

 

[soze]

Actually to me that reads "He is going to leave, but I am going to do everything I can to make it as awkward as possible because I am a miserable c*** and even though we wont pay players what they are worth we wont let them go somewhere they can even though there is a legal way in which they can make the move."

This is just spite, the simple fact is there is a court approved ruling that allows him to move, if Hleb wants it to happen then it will. Even if the transfer market is closed when this is done he will still be able to move as he would be a free agent and there a much longer transfer period in regards to these.

Why keep a player that doesnt want to play, I do not know. Maybe he will do a gallas and threaten to score own goals etc (apparently)

Lol he does not want a new contract so what the fuck does what we pay him have to do with anything. Wenger is basically saying this new rule is not black and white as in Help cant just buy his contract. I have said goodbye you want to leave fuck off but if this happens now it will mean more clubs will ask players to do this why pay 60 mil for messi wait till he has 2 years left and get him to buy his contract this could be a dangerous transfer.

There are two clubs in this league that do not have some sort of wage structure maybe 3 with spurs and tbh i really want the arse to fall out of football just so the mancs implode when they cant pay the fucking ridiculous wage bill they have going. Will not happen but i would still love to see it.

 

[georgie]

Freddy Eastwood to Cardiff for 2.5million... laughing all the way to the bank

That fucker always scores against me on Football Manager.

I assume that's just a rumour is it, Ev? I'd rather see Earnshaw back at Ninian Park.

 

[Hawkwind]

Well man utd are simply not as willing to throw money around

Veron, Poborsky... How much did you actually pay for Tevez???

Chel$ki and Man Utd both wave the cash about big time.

 

[cHodAX]

There are two clubs in this league that do not have some sort of wage structure maybe 3 with spurs and tbh i really want the arse to fall out of football just so the mancs implode when they cant pay the fucking ridiculous wage bill they have going. Will not happen but i would still love to see it.

Our wage bill is massive no doubt, we generate the revenue at the gate and via endorsements to cover it easily though. The profits all come from the TV revenue. That said, the massive debt the Glazer's dumped onto the clubs books keeps me awake at nights, we would have been better off with the dirty digger Murdoch.

 

[cHodAX]

Veron, Poborsky... How much did you actually pay for Tevez???

Chel$ki and Man Utd both wave the cash about big time.

Paid £10 million for him so far for 2 years, after that it is £15 million to secure his contract outright.

 

[Wonk]

Manchester threw money out of the window when they bought Carrick. They made up for it by buying Park though.

 

[Aoami]

Chelsea have signed Bosingwa. Gutted Man United.

 

[amodien]

Manchester threw money out of the window when they bought Carrick. They made up for it by buying Park though.

You are clueless.

Carrick bought = 2 premier league titles.

Just because he isn't a Ronaldo, he is key to the way we play.

 

[Aoami]

Well man utd are simply not as willing to throw money around at any player.

Fucking LOL at that. £20m for Carrick? £30m for Ferdinand (good player, but a centre back! 30m for a centre back!?) £28m for Veron, £20 for Hargreaves etc

 

[Aoami]

You are clueless.

Carrick bought = 2 premier league titles.

Just because he isn't a Ronaldo, he is key to the way we play.

Are you joking? He's out of his depth at United. If Scholes wasn't past it and Hargreaves less injury prone, Carrick wouldn't get a look in.

 

[amodien]

Are you joking? He's out of his depth at United. If Scholes wasn't past it and Hargreaves less injury prone, Carrick wouldn't get a look in.

Scholes past it? LMFAO

Please just don't say any more.

 

[Wonk]

You are clueless.

Carrick bought = 2 premier league titles.

Just because he isn't a Ronaldo, he is key to the way we play.

Carrick isn't half as skilled as the rest of the team.

You would think he made up for it with his work rate? no fucking way. He may be working hard every now and then, but he doesn't get anything out of it.

I can name atleast 30 midfielders on the same position who are better.

 

[cHodAX]

Fucking LOL at that. £20m for Carrick? £30m for Ferdinand (good player, but a centre back! 30m for a centre back!?) £28m for Veron, £20 for Hargreaves etc

Your figures are out, £18m for Carrick, 22.5 million euros for Hargreaves, Rio Ferdinand £28 million and Seba Veron £25 million.

As for Carrick, I am probably the only one in this thread who had seen him play in the flesh 6 times this season and frankly in 5 of those games he was piss poor. His main problem is his work rate and he isn't brave into tackles, Hargreaves is head and shoulders above in almost all departments.

Onto Scholes, has been very poor since his return from injury but I have seen signs in the last couple of games that he is slowly improving. Based on that he deserves to be in the squad but I honestly could not start him ahead of Anderson who has proven all season that he is the real deal. Same goes for Giggsy as well, both Nani and Park have been more effective on the wing for us this year and I really do feel this is going to be his swansong if we can win the European Cup next week.

 

[Aoami]

Scholes past it? LMFAO

Please just don't say any more.

The desire isn't there from Scholes anymore. It's no suprise. Retired from England duty very young. He's a family man, and its difficult to be that when you play for a top club that has to be away from home so often. I woudn't be suprised to see him retire after next year, especially if Giggs does as well.

Edit - If Carrick was any good he would be playing for England, not Gareth Barry.

 

[Jeremiah]

But Barry is playing awesome this year. I cant think of any other England midfielder that's had a better season than him =)

 

[Aoami]

Out of his Depth in the England team. One or two alright games, last couple of times i've seen him he's been rubbish. Not as good as Hargreaves. England Midfield should be Hargreaves and Lampard in the middle with Gerrard out right and J Cole out left.

 

[cHodAX]

Out of his Depth in the England team. One or two alright games, last couple of times i've seen him he's been rubbish. Not as good as Hargreaves. England Midfield should be Hargreaves and Lampard in the middle with Gerrard out right and J Cole out left.

I think that nails the England problem on the head in one sentance. Changing the way we play to accomodate both Lampard and Gerrard. I am sorry but one of them has to drop to the bench and as for Hargreaves v Barry there is only one winner in that battle, Hargreaves is much more of a dynamic player than Barry and offers more to the side both defensively and offensively.

 

[Aoami]

Completely. Should be the same at Liverpool as well. Benitez still tries to build a team around Gerrard when Torres should be the man. If he played Gerrard wide right with Alonso and Mascerano in the middle they'd have put up a title challenege this year imo.

 

[ileks]

Anyone see Stuart Downings goal on Sunday? I used to think he was total shit but after seeing some of his play on MoTD towards the end of this season he is definitely getting better. I can see him playing for England soon.

 

[Raven]

He already does play for England

 

[Jeremiah]

I think Downing tends to be too defensive when he plays for England. You rarely see him playing as a winger, when he does it so well in the EPL +)

 

[ileks]

He already does play for England

yes i remember him playing a few games under McLaren, but he was poor every time and was dropped wasn't he?

 

[Achilles]

Fucking LOL at that. £20m for Carrick? £30m for Ferdinand (good player, but a centre back! 30m for a centre back!?) £28m for Veron, £20 for Hargreaves etc

Centre back like Rio is worth easliy 30 million. He is as important for United as Ronaldo is.

I thought Liverpool would compete after we signed a 20 goals a season player, but Torres' arrival has proved we are still a long way back. We need another good striker, a right winger and two very good fullbacks to be at the standard of United and Chelsea without them improving over the summer. Have no fucking idea why Benetiz wants to sign Barry. To replace Alsonso? I would say Alonso is a better player. If we pay more than 10 million for him it will simply be repeating the mistakes of the last 18 years: Paying a lot of money for average players.

 

[Lethul]

who is Barry?

 

[Achilles]

who is Barry?

Well exactly my point, who is Gareth Barry? He is the captain of Aston Villa, and their best player probably. Used to play Left wing/left fullback now plays centre mid and has played there for England a few times. He is a solid decent player, but in my view not good enough to cost ~10 million and at 27 a little old. Torres has proven that there is a reason why expensive players are expensive... because their good. Dont know why Benetiz doesnt ask after Joaquin from Valencia because he seems to be keen to move, especially as he played under him at one point.

 

[CorNokZ]

Barry is far from their best player.. Martin Laursen has been a starter for every match and has played 90minutes in everyone of them, this enitre season, besides one game where he was subbed in the 70th minute or something! 6 goals as a CB is quite good aswell.. Even the Villa fans voted him as player of the season

 

[Vasconcelos]

Well exactly my point, who is Gareth Barry? He is the captain of Aston Villa, and their best player probably. Used to play Left wing/left fullback now plays centre mid and has played there for England a few times. He is a solid decent player, but in my view not good enough to cost ~10 million and at 27 a little old. Torres has proven that there is a reason why expensive players are expensive... because their good. Dont know why Benetiz doesnt ask after Joaquin from Valencia because he seems to be keen to move, especially as he played under him at one point.

Joaquin is a bluff