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I remember people wondering about the transfer of Benayoun, I think he showed a bit of why he was bought tonight. CREATIVITY! Something that Liverpool seem to lack, for all the power that they do have in their team.
However good Gerrard is, he's not creative. Sissoko? Nah. Mascherano? Could be, played in the right way. Kewell? Injured. Kuyt? Nah. Alonso? Not really..

They really need some more creativity offensively, that they'll get by playing players that are creative :) (and it'll look a whole lot better too!)

Mascherano has the most tackles in prem this season.. by far.. and he aint played much... he has the potential to be one of the worlds best dmf where as alonso hes just quality.. sissoko will go soon.. kuyt isnt a striker hes a Target/assistman kewell he will get better and hes not injured
 

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Liverpool have spent a fortune the past 10 years and won one trophy.

Chelsea have spent a fortune and won lots, go figure.

Liverpool would be shit without Gerrard
 

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Mascherano has the most tackles in prem this season.. by far.. and he aint played much... he has the potential to be one of the worlds best dmf where as alonso hes just quality.. sissoko will go soon.. kuyt isnt a striker hes a Target/assistman kewell he will get better and hes not injured

Kuyt a target man?

You do know what a target man is right?
 

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Kuyt is a target man, if by target you mean a target for bad reviews and poor goalscoring records

Tehehehehe
 

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Mascherano has the most tackles in prem this season.. by far.. and he aint played much... he has the potential to be one of the worlds best dmf where as alonso hes just quality.. sissoko will go soon.. kuyt isnt a striker hes a Target/assistman kewell he will get better and hes not injured

And? His success rate is the worst of the top 5 tacklers so the fact hes made more tackles means nothing. Kuyt a target man?? Kewell will get better? Dude hes not 20/21.
 

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And? His success rate is the worst of the top 5 tacklers so the fact hes made more tackles means nothing. Kuyt a target man?? Kewell will get better? Dude hes not 20/21.

The fact that Kewell is injured means he can only really get better, his leg anyway not his football
 

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Perhabs it was 8-0, but what a load of fucking wank goals.. Almost all of them went in after bounching off a defender or some other wierd mishap in the defence!

With an 8-0 win you'd expect atleast 1 or 2 goals to be just half decent, but.. Nah!
 

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And? His success rate is the worst of the top 5 tacklers so the fact hes made more tackles means nothing. Kuyt a target man?? Kewell will get better? Dude hes not 20/21.

We were saying Kewell was going to get better when he was a fresh faced young twenty year old at Leeds UTD ;)

The same with Alan Smith, Lee Bowyer, Danny Mills and Paul Robinson, hardly world beaters :p
 

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Mascherano has the most tackles in prem this season.. by far.. and he aint played much... he has the potential to be one of the worlds best dmf where as alonso hes just quality.. sissoko will go soon.. kuyt isnt a striker hes a Target/assistman kewell he will get better and hes not injured

Seeing as my post was about creativity, I have major doubts about your ability to read.

Kuyt isn't a striker, why would I give a fuck? That doesn't make him all that much more creative does it? And he is not a fucking target man..
 

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The problem with the Fat spanish waiters transfer spending is that hes bought absolute shite compared to chelsea, Arse and Man Utd.

You just know if he sells Sisoko, Crouch and Riise for a combined total of £25million he will go and blow it all on 4 average players.

I cant wait for Liverpool to win nothing this year and then for my mates to try and tell me..

The fat spanish waiter is the best manager in the world
Gerrard is world class (no, Kaka and messi are world class)
Carragher is the best british centre back ever

I will just laugh in their faces


totally agree, though in a drunk argument couldn't quite remember why I didn't rate carragher, my "but he cant play football hes just a work-horse" comments weren't winning the argument :(

benitez keeps buying loads of squad players, so he can rotate more and let his "superstars" have a rest

fairly fundamental flaw when you have 1 superstar to begin with, and said superstar hates being left out of the starting XI

at least he was on the ball with torres, that boys a class act, but gerrard and torres wont win you the league, whereas cristiano and rooney have already prooved they can win the league though, as have lampard and drogba

marc hows dos santos faring this year? seen a bit of bojan as well and he looks fairly useful
 

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Liverpool have spent a fortune the past 10 years and won one trophy.

Chelsea have spent a fortune and won lots, go figure.

Liverpool would be shit without Gerrard

in 99-2000 we won 5 trophies, then ofc champ laeuge followed by fa cup, so not like we arent sucsesful, just too inconsistant to win the leauge an we are probly still a few years off
 

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8-0 is a good result on any day, but a number of goals were fluky and Besiktas needed to win the game as well and their defending was shocking.

Liverpool beat Derby 6-0 earlier this season and everyone was saying then it was the dawn of a new era etc....pants they are just rare results

I will rate Liverpool as a team of the quality of Man Utd/Arsenal/Barca etc if they can get the results that really matter against Porto and Marseille when they are playing against a team that sits back and counter attacks with quality players rather than self destructs like Besiktas
 

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Nows a better time than ever, since when Fergie leaves Hughes will be leaving blackburn xD

indeed and i knows its true which makes it more annoying....

i hope they take on keane instead :<
 

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totally agree, though in a drunk argument couldn't quite remember why I didn't rate carragher, my "but he cant play football hes just a work-horse" comments weren't winning the argument :(

benitez keeps buying loads of squad players, so he can rotate more and let his "superstars" have a rest

fairly fundamental flaw when you have 1 superstar to begin with, and said superstar hates being left out of the starting XI

at least he was on the ball with torres, that boys a class act, but gerrard and torres wont win you the league, whereas cristiano and rooney have already prooved they can win the league though, as have lampard and drogba

marc hows dos santos faring this year? seen a bit of bojan as well and he looks fairly useful

Gerrard needs players around him. I just feel in every position except for Gerrard and Torres they really need to strengthen. I suppose players that will do jobs for them are Carragher, Reina, Alonso, Macherano and kuyt. Maybe the £25 million signing of Torres is the sign of things to come, which would be great for the premier league.

Dos Santos has played well when used this year. He doesnt have Ronaldinhos lighning pace, or balance but his control and technique seem to be top drawer.

Rumour has it a couple of english clubs are looking to break the bank to get him next summer as his contract is up. Although I would be very surprised if he left Barca so early in his career. I think his younger Brother may play for Barca too.
 

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in 99-2000 we won 5 trophies, then ofc champ laeuge followed by fa cup, so not like we arent sucsesful, just too inconsistant to win the leauge an we are probly still a few years off

Lets look at those trophies, League Cup (lol), Fa Cup(lol), Uefa Cup (lol)

Hardly the League or Champ final is it?

Shows you that Liverpool can only manage in cups, in the league they always fuck up around Christmas time
 

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I would be happy if my team would end up as 4-5th in the league and win CL tbh.
 

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Rosenborg - Valencia 2 - 0 and Valencia - Rosenborg 0 - 2.

The spaniards were soundly outplayed and well beaten in both matches, now thats impressive!
 

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I would be happy if my team would end up as 4-5th in the league and win CL tbh.

I wouldn't, CL can be a bit of luck and I don't think the best team always wins it, However the PL is all about consistency and 99/100 the best team over the season will win it
 

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Gerrard needs players around him. I just feel in every position except for Gerrard and Torres they really need to strengthen. I suppose players that will do jobs for them are Carragher, Reina, Alonso, Macherano and kuyt. Maybe the £25 million signing of Torres is the sign of things to come, which would be great for the premier league.

Dos Santos has played well when used this year. He doesnt have Ronaldinhos lighning pace, or balance but his control and technique seem to be top drawer.

Rumour has it a couple of english clubs are looking to break the bank to get him next summer as his contract is up. Although I would be very surprised if he left Barca so early in his career. I think his younger Brother may play for Barca too.

Its signings like Pennant and Gonzalez that make you think, hang on, has he lost his marbles?

Hmmm, Spanish rules state that a club cant have more than 3 non eu players in the squad, but after, I think it's five years in a country, a player can become a national, alá Ronaldihno

I guess whether he stays or goes could rest on who Barca are lining up for next summer, afaik Dos Santos has only been at camp nou for 3yrs so he's gotta merit another 2 years there as a "star" before he can comfortably sit in the squad, and looking at barca's success over the last 5yrs with south americans, theyre probably prowling right now for the next messi, anyways off to watch united game, wish us luck :p
 

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Its signings like Pennant and Gonzalez that make you think, hang on, has he lost his marbles?

Hmmm, Spanish rules state that a club cant have more than 3 non eu players in the squad, but after, I think it's five years in a country, a player can become a national, alá Ronaldihno

I guess whether he stays or goes could rest on who Barca are lining up for next summer, afaik Dos Santos has only been at camp nou for 3yrs so he's gotta merit another 2 years there as a "star" before he can comfortably sit in the squad, and looking at barca's success over the last 5yrs with south americans, theyre probably prowling right now for the next messi, anyways off to watch united game, wish us luck :p

You are correct, Dos Santos has gained spanish citizenship. However, he is regarded as one of the best young prospects in the game, which is why i cant see Barca letting him go. Although that said, how long will dos santos be prepared to play under study to ronaldinho?
 

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Lets look at those trophies, League Cup (lol), Fa Cup(lol), Uefa Cup (lol)

Hardly the League or Champ final is it?

Shows you that Liverpool can only manage in cups, in the league they always fuck up around Christmas time

whereas leeds are the bollox?

i lvoe how you criticise when the team you support are an utter pile of shite, im not sitting here spouting off about how liverpool are the best team ever am i? and as i said were not gonna win the prem in the next few years, but they are CLEARLY still a good team, so until leeds do somthing of note go fuck yourself
 

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whereas leeds are the bollox?

i lvoe how you criticise when the team you support are an utter pile of shite, im not sitting here spouting off about how liverpool are the best team ever am i? and as i said were not gonna win the prem in the next few years, but they are CLEARLY still a good team, so until leeds do somthing of note go fuck yourself

Rofl, so anybody who's not a glory supporter (or the few real top-4 club fans,) can go fuck themselves in a football discussion?
 

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Liverpool would be shit without Gerrard


yesterday 7-0 ... if u discard gerrards goal... its not like OMG WE NEED GERRARD TO PLAY OR WE LOSE ! you could say that about chelsea or man u aswell... every club has a star player...
 

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yesterday 7-0 ... if u discard gerrards goal... its not like OMG WE NEED GERRARD TO PLAY OR WE LOSE ! you could say that about chelsea or man u aswell... every club has a star player...

Id say Chelsea without Lampard and Arse without Cesc are fair stronger than Liverpool without Gerrard?
 

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5 trophys in 7 years FYI so shh
Rafa has alot to prove and im sure ! He is a dam good manager and i have every faith in him.... managers take alot of time to settle in!
on another note carragher isnt shit... he plays for liverpool in every match not his self like Ronaldo/rooney/lampard lol :) gerrard is the greatest prem captain tbh tho
 

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Id say Chelsea without Lampard and Arse without Cesc are fair stronger than Liverpool without Gerrard?

Lampard
Fabregas
Gerrard

all diffrent players... Chelsea without lampard will be pretty much the same cause they are all greedy fucking ***** who play there own football anyway ..
Arsenal have so much young talent they have very nice back up..
Gerrard bangs them in when they are needed and lifts the team ! i mean look at istanbul/fa cup final v west ham:)
 

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Lampard
Fabregas
Gerrard

all diffrent players... Chelsea without lampard will be pretty much the same cause they are all greedy fucking ***** who play there own football anyway ..
Arsenal have so much young talent they have very nice back up..
Gerrard bangs them in when they are needed and lifts the team ! i mean look at istanbul/fa cup final v west ham:)

so judging by your assessment of the 3 teams,it seems you agree that Liverpool without Gerrard are weaker than the other 2
 

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