[Football]: Best team in premiership history

[Marc]

For me, it was Arsenal 2004. To go a whole season unbeaten is incredible and the football they played was a joy to watch.

 

[Everz]

Arse all the way, unbeaten in the league was sensational

 

[Wonk]

Either Man utd 99 or arse 04. I liked Cole and Yorke alot, and Sheringham as a perfect backup striker However one season without getting beaten probably shows more.

 

[Olgaline]

the best is yet to come,

when a single team wins all games, in all cups and leagues to win all 4 cups "championship, Cl, FA and carling cup" and rescue a beached endangered pregnant mother whale
then you'll see the best team ever,

Till then Man.U of 99 prob are the closest to date.

 

[soze]

Unbeatables for me who knows how far they would have gone if not for the Rooney dive. That moment tainted my view on him a utd so much.

 

[amodien]

Unbeatables for me who knows how far they would have gone if not for the Rooney dive. That moment tainted my view on him a utd so much.

Oh god, I will take you back to Pires against Portsmouth? remember that?

 

[Vladamir]

Chelsea 2005 for me, we smashed quite a few records that year.

 

[Everz]

Chelsea 2005 for me, we smashed quite a few records that year.

i almost laughed at that one, all that achieved was proof that the prem can be bought

 

[soze]

Oh god, I will take you back to Pires against Portsmouth? remember that?

And if pompey fans hate Arsenal because of that its fine, i had been going to game for years and never hated Man U i always though it was hating the winner syndrom. When he dived and looked so fucking pleased with himself i instantly hated him and Man U.

 

[Wonk]

Lol, why bother making one of these polls here anyway? people will just pick their own club.

 

[Vladamir]

i almost laughed at that one, all that achieved was proof that the prem can be bought

No need to be bitter because you support Wolves

 

[Cerb]

its not bitter its true.....
to be honest i think its a joke they were even mentioned in the same breath as arsenal 2004 or united 1999....chelsea bought the premiership playing sh*t football.

 

[Lucius]

Unbeatables for me who knows how far they would have gone if not for the Rooney dive. That moment tainted my view on him a utd so much.

It wasn't Rooney's dive that ruined your season. It was your inability to cope with loosing vs Man United. After that game you lost it completely. Something very similar is happening this season. After Man United beat you you've just crumbled.

Partially Rooney's fault yes, though mostly Arsenal's for not coming back stronger

 

[Everz]

No need to be bitter because you support Wolves

Oh no my friend, not bitter in the least just saying the obvious, you bought the prem, there was nothing great like the teams of United 1999 or Arsenal 2004, who had been built up over time, you just splashed millions and millions to get the best players and manager and simply bought the prem, i severly hope Roman leaves you after Fener finish of the job at the bridge, would be oh so sweet justice to see chelsea rot and die.

 

[Vladamir]

its not bitter its true.....
to be honest i think its a joke they were even mentioned in the same breath as arsenal 2004 or united 1999....chelsea bought the premiership playing sh*t football.

So when United bought Veron, Rio and Rooney all for around 30 mill - that wasn't buying the premiership in the same manner?

When Nani and Anderson were bought for a combined 35mill or so, and Haaregreaves for 25(?) mill, that wasn't buying in the same manner?

The only difference is Chelsea had near-instant success once Mourinho was installed and made his buys. So what if we bought some of the best players at the time, i couldn't give two fucks. We had the money to spend and it paid dividends, end of story

 

[Everz]

So when United bought Veron, Rio and Rooney all for around 30 mill - that wasn't buying the premiership in the same manner?

When Nani and Anderson were bought for a combined 35mill or so, and Haaregreaves for 25(?) mill, that wasn't buying in the same manner?

The only difference is Chelsea had near-instant success once Mourinho was installed and made his buys. So what if we bought some of the best players at the time, i couldn't give two fucks. We had the money to spend and it paid dividends, end of story

But United were successful before that, they didnt need to money in order to get that success, Chelsea did, before that you were a small team in comparision with little if any History, like i said, wait till Roman leaves after another trophyless season, be up the shit creek without a paddle then

 

[megadave]

I dont see why its bad to have more rich teams than less. No harm in having challengers to the massive glory hunting corporate machine that is man united

 

[georgie]

Oh god, I will take you back to Pires against Portsmouth?

Or Pires against anyone for that matter?

 

[Vladamir]

But United were successful before that, they didnt need to money in order to get that success, Chelsea did, before that you were a small team in comparision with little if any History, like i said, wait till Roman leaves after another trophyless season, be up the shit creek without a paddle then

Get your facts right before you spout stuff like that please - we haven't finished below 6th since 1995-6 season where we finished 11. I wouldn't say that denotes us as a small team.

That FA cup win in 1997 has seen a drastic change in our fortunes - History means fuck all in the present which is where we are. You can harp on about history all you like but in the here and now it has sweet bugger all on the bearings of things.

What do you mean another trophyless season? We've won more than Arsenal in the last few years but it doesn't matter for Arsenal because they have the youngest squad and play the best football.

If Roman gets bored then there will be another buyer, who prior to buying will be made aware of the wage demands in place.

People seem to be all up on their high horse when things aren't going there way but as soon as they come into some fortunes things are conveniently forgotten. I don't care if our success came as a result of money. We had it, we spent it, we won.

Some people really do spout some crap here without thinking it through sometimes.

 

[Cerb]

So when United bought Veron, Rio and Rooney all for around 30 mill - that wasn't buying the premiership in the same manner?

When Nani and Anderson were bought for a combined 35mill or so, and Haaregreaves for 25(?) mill, that wasn't buying in the same manner?

The only difference is Chelsea had near-instant success once Mourinho was installed and made his buys. So what if we bought some of the best players at the time, i couldn't give two fucks. We had the money to spend and it paid dividends, end of story

Two valid points but most people would agree i think that when these players were first bought(with teh exception of rooney) it was not them that won the leauge for united on that particular season....rios first season most people considerd him a flop...i wont even discuss veron...so it wasnt these players eho won the league so you could argue it wasnt bought...same again this season as its been rooney and ronaldo who have made the most impact.

my main reason for my comment thoght is that ok they won the league...maybe even by buying it...does this mean we call the blackburn team of 94-95 a great team? or the newcastle team who nealy won the title a great team? good teams no doubt but winning the title despite isnt enough..the united team of 1999 won the 3 biggets trophys possible and arsenal didnt lose a single game...these were great teams

/rant off

 

[cHodAX]

So when United bought Veron, Rio and Rooney all for around 30 mill - that wasn't buying the premiership in the same manner?

When Nani and Anderson were bought for a combined 35mill or so, and Haaregreaves for 25(?) mill, that wasn't buying in the same manner?

The only difference is Chelsea had near-instant success once Mourinho was installed and made his buys. So what if we bought some of the best players at the time, i couldn't give two fucks. We had the money to spend and it paid dividends, end of story

Not one of those fees are correct but I will leave you to live in your deluded fantasy world.

 

[Vladamir]

And Chelsea of 2005 set records for most clean sheets, victories, goals conceded and points earned - yet people seem to feel this doesn't count because we used our wealth to get there.

 

[Vladamir]

Not one of those fees are correct but I will leave you to live in your deluded fantasy world.

Rooney deal was 31, Rio was 33, Haaregreaves was 17 (ok i was in euros for this one ), Nani was 17, Anderson was 18, Veron was 28.

They are very close to what i estimated.

 

[Everz]

And Chelsea of 2005 set records for most clean sheets, victories, goals conceded and points earned - yet people seem to feel this doesn't count because we used our wealth to get there.

I'll say no more, in my eyes your scum and all that wrong with football with the influx of money... tis no wonder so many clubs are going into debt/admin...

the rich get richer, the poor get poorer

 

[Vladamir]

And how does our wage bill reflect on that of clubs going to administration exactly?

 

[Everz]

And how does our wage bill reflect on that of clubs going to administration exactly?

because one of those wages probably totals to the value of that club lol?

 

[Bugz]

I read somewhere that Chelsea's wage bill for one year was almost 75% of their turnover!

Crazy when you think about how quickly that wage bill was amassed!

 

[Vladamir]

And how does that reflect on the less wealthy clubs inability to manage their finances appropriately then?

 

[Everz]

And how does that reflect on the less wealthy clubs inability to manage their finances appropriately then?

No it says how ridiculous football and money has got when one top flight players wages for a year is worth more then a league 1 club... what with sky, prem, rich investments to bank roll the clubs its ridiculous.

I mean derby along from getting relegated get 30 fucking million.. that is a joke imo.

 

[soze]

It wasn't Rooney's dive that ruined your season. It was your inability to cope with loosing vs Man United. After that game you lost it completely. Something very similar is happening this season. After Man United beat you you've just crumbled.

Partially Rooney's fault yes, though mostly Arsenal's for not coming back stronger

The loss of that game hurt us for the next few games Man U were not winning that game till Rooney took a dive so yes I do blame him. If we had not lost would we have suffered the same loss of confidence, i do not think so. Not saying its fact just how i felt and feel.

As for this season no Man U are not responsible spurs smashed us in a cup before they did, we have not been playing well week in week out since our slump in December .

The money in football is bad especially the money generated outside of football. The problem i see with all the foreign owners is they will all want something to show for the money they throw at a club. And there is only one league 2 cups and europe. How long will the Russians Americans the Tai and whatever else we have now stay with a club if they do not win. And how much are managers going to have to start spending on players to try to win. Chel$ki went to new heights buying players but is spending 50 + mil on players going to become the norm just to challenge for the league. If it is we will become a crap league we have the big 4 now but that will drop to maybe the big 2 or 3 if liverpool sort themselves out. We are in a good position prolly the best in the league our money is our own but we can't afford 50m a year on players.