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Martok

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Guys i have sumthing rather Simple to say

CAN YOU ALL SHUT THE F*** UP

I am sick to death of everyone saying they only run 1 fg only tbh its total crap every group and i mean EVERY group @ some point has zerged or joined in the zerg or had some ppl on stick so stop all acting so high and mighty and just blody play the stupid game!

Everyone says yes but we just run fg + fg we wont add thats total bollox tbh weather its by accident or on purpose weather you wnat to or now ppl zerg and add ect and shit happens! We mainly TRY to run as a fg (i was not on last night) but yes it doesnt always happen and tbh its the same for all of you as well can be randoms ect dones matter thing is the SHIT happens!

SO EVERYONE get off there high horses and get back down to planet earth and just play the game dont like it like it who gives a damn! just play the game. what comes around goes around!

/Rant off!
 

Alyssania

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Kind of stupid. Someone posts screenie with 3 kills where the group got all rp's out of 8 kills and we get 10 pages of crap. Pretty much same as I would post screenies of getting 1k+ rp's and saying I soloed em in a fair 1 vs 1... :touch:
 

Zedenz

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Manisch Depressiv said:
Thank you. I can't be arsed to screenshot everything I see.

lol, could have fooled me.

Anyone else think Manisch has become the new Thugs with all his screenshots and videos? :D
 

Jjuraa

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Smellysox said:
Who is he pissing off exactly ? sounds to me like ure just bitter and trying to pump up teh e-peen for group/realm points . When you return to albion <lets face it u will if gamah/reject does> then we can all take a vote then on u becoming arthur and telling ppl wat to do and how to play there char how does that sound ?

im impressed Smellysox, i think this is possibly a record for you in sheer blind irrelevant posting.

Firstly: he is pissing ME off.

il break it down for those of you hard of thinking.

Alaron plays the way he wants to, and i have no power to stop him, other than telling him what i think.

I play the way i want to. However Alaron does, have "power" to stop me playing this way, because all he has to do is come up, nuke the guy im fighting, and run off. This he does with abundance.

Now, every time you do this to me Alaron, you are in essence, forcing your playstyle onto me, you see? youre stopping me from playing the way i want to. What you are doing is WORSE than merely telling me how i play, you are barging in and STOPPING me playing with force, and unfortunately i can't PK you in this game, or do anything to stop you.

If you were to fuck off, and stop adding on my kills, stop zerging the people im fighting, there would be no problem. you could go off and take keeps with 5fgs, or whatever it is you enjoy, and i could rvr 1v1, all happy.

The cheif mistake you people make, is in thinking that just because 1v1 is the lowest, base rvr that can happen, that its somehow unimportant? that group rvr somehow takes presidence. Now that is the height of arrogance. Just because you CAN run in groups of 30, doesnt mean everyone has to.

There is absolutely no reason, why you should come up, and nuke a guy im fighting 1v1. No reason at all, sure you wont get banned for it if you do, but some things are just done out of common courtesy.

Now, if you can read this, and say "OK Jjuraa, good point, me and my group will respect the way you play, and not add on your fights from now on" then fine, argument over. However if you still have this vague idea that you're somehow right about everything, then continue arguing.

And Smellysox: i dont know where you got the idea that i wasnt playing Albion from. I've been playing my infiltrator, I've never left Albion. So heres a tip: before you press that submit button next time, re-read your text, select it all, delete it, and close the explorer window. good boy.
 

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In an Irvr area you aint likely to get a 1vs1 though. 90%, if not more, the fights that start 1vs1 will be added on by someone. I know all but 2 1vs1 i had since this Irvr shit started way back have not had adds.

Really, if you want 1vs1 you need to find another area to be in, i figured that out hence why i dont solo much at the moment. Too much destress in it when your speedless and stealthless
 

Jjuraa

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Corran said:
In an Irvr area you aint likely to get a 1vs1 though. 90%, if not more, the fights that start 1vs1 will be added on by someone. I know all but 2 1vs1 i had since this Irvr shit started way back have not had adds.

Really, if you want 1vs1 you need to find another area to be in, i figured that out hence why i dont solo much at the moment. Too much destress in it when your speedless and stealthless

why do 1v1's get added on? because of people like manisch, because of people like Alaron. whats a way to solve the problem? talk to them, tell them that they dont have to nuke the person im fighting.

I don't expect manisch to see reason on this, but Alaron looks like he has at least 1 functioning braincell, he may just get it.



oh and Edit btw: to all those people coming into this thread and saying "STOP TALKING, THIS THREAD IS TOO LONG".

Go. Away. Then.
 

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Jjuraa said:
why do 1v1's get added on? because of people like manisch, because of people like Alaron. whats a way to solve the problem? talk to them, tell them that they dont have to nuke the person im fighting.

I don't expect manisch to see reason on this, but Alaron looks like he has at least 1 functioning braincell, he may just get it.



oh and Edit btw: to all those people coming into this thread and saying "STOP TALKING, THIS THREAD IS TOO LONG".

Go. Away. Then.

I find it is stealthers that add mostly, followed by groups, followed by solo non-stealthers. And i cant see it stopping.

People will just use the following excuse of "they just add on me/would add on us so we got in first"
 

Minstrel

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Jjuraa said:
why do 1v1's get added on? because of people like manisch, because of people like Alaron. whats a way to solve the problem? talk to them, tell them that they dont have to nuke the person im fighting.

I don't expect manisch to see reason on this, but Alaron looks like he has at least 1 functioning braincell, he may just get it.



oh and Edit btw: to all those people coming into this thread and saying "STOP TALKING, THIS THREAD IS TOO LONG".

Go. Away. Then.

soz i jumped u when u was about to atack that ranjur near villa :p just needed 1 kill for mop3 :p
 

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Manisch Depressiv said:
Taking some screenies hours later to say "we were a FG, look at our RPs" with people included that haven't been close to us and not in our group where I get up to 100 RP/kill more from a Reaver bomb isn't? If I had a better screenshot I'd have posted it.

You do not get 100 RP/kill more with a reaverbomb. In a FG the typical RP-reward you get is somewhere around 220-250 (depending on RR's). It doesnt matter who does the damage, RP's flows into the group(s) and get distributed accordingly to RR. As RR10 I get less RP for the same kill as Malena who is RR5 etc.

220-250 is normal RP's, if you get 100 RP/kill more (320-350) you aint running in a FG or you flat-out lying or your character is bugged. Your call ;)


They can run as they want, it's nothing new for me to see Puppet in a bigger group. But then don't moan about getting zerged.

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Xxcalibur

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Manisch Depressiv said:
They day you run a FG with EIGHT people someone might actually listen to you.



And I don't care that it was a different group, the fact that you and Puppet do it constantly was reason enough for me to zerg the whole realm of Hibernia.



Go Dwal, go!

gwal /puppet grp running with more than 8 dudes ? are you drunk ? or your are retard irl ? yesterday i was barding that grp , and i hate adds so dont use croc ring on my template to avoid it, we won you 8 vs 8 ( u saw panther grp , ds used by me ) you only need to learn to lose .

we fighted yesterday blejs, furiosito, rudor grps outside villa area, but you guys evita, manisch etc.. keep going there and getting zerged by randoms hibs ¿ what about start to roam far from villa ? i doubt you do it because you know we will win you 95 % times, so you need to go villa and try farm randoms hibs to gain some rps


Just one example: yesterday our grp got 50k in 3 hour , how much rps got your grp ? 15 k ? try to adapt to fight hib/ mids grps and do decent setups. Start kicking the useless Mincer on New frontiers.
 

gwal

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Manisch Depressiv said:
Ah, so you are a provider of fights where your enemy is outnumbered or outskilled so they can get a rewarding fight to win?

Now I understand.

Thank you for the entertainment.

you can talk the shit u want, i know all the work ive done to cut down on the adding hell that existed once.
to the extent of not fighting, sitting down, and even leaving guild grps.

to some extent it has also worked, unfortunatly for a grp like urs, u dont get to feel it.
u almost always roam in the add hell land of beno - villa - berk, instead of in the fg areas most hib and mid grps roam in unless theres no grps out to fight, yet u complain the enemy has adds.
u add on alb zergs, yet run ur own zerg when it happens to you.

its easy to be a hypocrite.
as i said on irc, zerg all u want, nobody gives a fck, just dont try to justify it by using lame hypocritical excuses.
 

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Xxcalibur said:
Just one example: yesterday our grp got 50k in 3 hour , how much rps got your grp ? 15 k ? try to adapt to fight hib/ mids grps and do decent setups. Start kicking the useless Mincer on New frontiers.

At rr6 i was on 11k/hr
 

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Corran said:
In an Irvr area you aint likely to get a 1vs1 though. 90%, if not more, the fights that start 1vs1 will be added on by someone. I know all but 2 1vs1 i had since this Irvr shit started way back have not had adds.

Really, if you want 1vs1 you need to find another area to be in, i figured that out hence why i dont solo much at the moment. Too much destress in it when your speedless and stealthless

I managed over 20 1v1's last night without adds, its not hard. You just stay away from the zergs as much as poss. Had the odd fight where some random idiot wizard added (not Alaron for once) but thats life, for the most part it was ok. I also have a personal rule that I won't (or mostly won't) attack solo people when other albs are around. I hate it being done to me, I'm sure everyone else hates it being done to them too.

It got shit last night when hibs had 30 odd camping berks stone and albs had 2fg on stick -> this was the point I logged. The hr before that had been quite shit, the 2 hours before that were excellent rvr for a solo'er. 51kills worth rps, 35db's, 4deaths, 10k/hr, over 600rps/kill.

Solo rvr is easy to find, even in irvr, you just have to actually want to look for it instead of just running the usual route and camping with the zerg.

For the record the same goes for fg rvr. PE don't get zerged half as much as Evita's groups do, but if you look at where they run in comparison its all around the zergy areas -> bridges, villa, etc etc. Stay away from them, less adds, less getting zerged, more fg fights.
 

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bigchief said:
I managed over 20 1v1's last night without adds, its not hard. You just stay away from the zergs as much as poss. Had the odd fight where some random idiot wizard added (not Alaron for once) but thats life, for the most part it was ok. I also have a personal rule that I won't (or mostly won't) attack solo people when other albs are around. I hate it being done to me, I'm sure everyone else hates it being done to them too.

It got shit last night when hibs had 30 odd camping berks stone and albs had 2fg on stick -> this was the point I logged. The hr before that had been quite shit, the 2 hours before that were excellent rvr for a solo'er. 51kills worth rps, 35db's, 4deaths, 10k/hr, over 600rps/kill.

Solo rvr is easy to find, even in irvr, you just have to actually want to look for it instead of just running the usual route and camping with the zerg.

For the record the same goes for fg rvr. PE don't get zerged half as much as Evita's groups do, but if you look at where they run in comparison its all around the zergy areas -> bridges, villa, etc etc. Stay away from them, less adds, less getting zerged, more fg fights.

amen with that.

solo & fg vs fg fights are doables but there are some albs who keeps going to villa area to try farm randoms hibs, those albs should roam on berk t4 area or eras > berk way, but their chance to win win a fight actually is crap
 

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2 of albions biggest adders and zergers whining about getting zerged and added on... Priceless
 

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xxManiacxx said:
2 of albions biggest adders and zergers whining about getting zerged and added on... Priceless

It's not us whining you muppet. It pissed us of for 10 seconds and then we wiped the floor with them all night long.

Thank you.
 

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Yeah yeah we were running 10 FGs, poor Evita's group... and all the NSs and rangers alone... happy? :p

Anyway every1 can get over getting zerged, not even talking about having fight with adds as thats quite common... but Evita has to start zerging coz he (as they say) were fighting FG with adds... seriously - doesn't that look kinda like a poor excuse?
 

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Manisch Depressiv said:
It's not us whining you muppet. It pissed us of for 10 seconds and then we wiped the floor with them all night long.

Thank you.

If u get added on u go back, if u get zerged u go back. That is if you really want fg fights. What you don´t do if you want fg fights is to run with multiple groups yourself.
 

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xxManiacxx said:
If u get added on u go back, if u get zerged u go back. That is if you really want fg fights. What you don´t do if you want fg fights is to run with multiple groups yourself.

They want fg fights... but more importantly they want to have fun.

Didnt find it fun getting zerged as 1fg so opted to do something different. So stopped looking for fg fights, farmed a zerg and stopped Irvr for hibs for awhile.


No point going on about it. It happened. Cant get a civilized conversation with most people here as they dont care what other side story is (both albs and hibs included)

And BC, what you said is true. Which just goes to say that maybe Jjurra should stop complaining and do like you do. Move away from the usual area (that which alaron and co normally stick to) and find them else where.

Me personally, i dont solo primetime which means that if i roam diff areas when i solo i wont find anything unfortunately. Have tried it and it aint no good :(
 

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xxManiacxx said:
... Priceless

For everything else theres
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pjuppe

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Manisch Depressiv said:
They day you run a FG with EIGHT people someone might actually listen to you.

I show you a recording of a group of eleven being bombed with you and you say "good job on bombing us at a safespot, bla bla bla bla". Stop critisising people where it is clearly you who feels the need to run more than 8 people in order to win and get some RPs.

And I don't care that it was a different group, the fact that you and Puppet do it constantly was reason enough for me to zerg the whole realm of Hibernia.

Damn you're even to daft to realize that we sometimes need to bomb a resting group in order to be able to fight vs the second group that is just 5 seconds away normally without you adding. And if you don't have a Bard on overwatch and no speedwarp down while resting it shows how much you rely on superior numbers.

Go Dwal, go!

gwal? is that the high RR celt BM in TTD if i can remember correctly (i'm crap at the other realms guilds :(), that you can often find with xxcalibur? in that case i have quite alot of memories of fighting them fg vs fg (some videoclipped (the ones we won when i have been able to hit the recorder=D)). i really don't know what you're on about. it's more common to fight them as 8 than you.

Martok said:
Guys i have sumthing rather Simple to say

CAN YOU ALL SHUT THE F*** UP

I am sick to death of everyone saying they only run 1 fg only tbh its total crap every group and i mean EVERY group @ some point has zerged or joined in the zerg or had some ppl on stick so stop all acting so high and mighty and just blody play the stupid game!

Everyone says yes but we just run fg + fg we wont add thats total bollox tbh weather its by accident or on purpose weather you wnat to or now ppl zerg and add ect and shit happens! We mainly TRY to run as a fg (i was not on last night) but yes it doesnt always happen and tbh its the same for all of you as well can be randoms ect dones matter thing is the SHIT happens!

SO EVERYONE get off there high horses and get back down to planet earth and just play the game dont like it like it who gives a damn! just play the game. what comes around goes around!

/Rant off!

so true. accidents happen and i apologize for the times coo coo added by mistake. the thing is that the evita grp seems very accident-prone and often happen to add or get adds. still, manisch is quite a master of bitching about beeing zerged and posting the occational ''we where zerged at the bridge/villa''-screenshot. and think that is why most ppl in this tread got their eyebrows raised and decided to voice their oppinion.
 

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Manisch Depressiv said:
Just watch the recording.

not the best spot to rest up at, but i'm just asking: is there a possibility that 2 separate grps was just shareing a fop? just because you're resting at the same spot it doesn't mean that you are attached by the hip.

sshot0054ps.jpg

(i can't see you there, don't know if you where, but evita was there so i think the pic hold some relevance)

concluding for the pic i could say that evita is running with several ppl (i count about 17 albs there). but because i was there i know that it isn't true. the truth is that we engaged a fg:ish of albs which abit later transformed into about fg:ish + a few adds. then after a brief period of time evita comes with a fg to even the odds and we where zerged.

but from that picture i can say that evita was zerging all night, just as you concluded from your recording and all your screenshots.

(and no, we did not add a single time during that night, not even by accident, so don't come and say that we had it coming)
 

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aww you got zerged...Coo Coo dont think twice about killing solors though..8v1 of 17vs8.
 

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