fo midgard..

[Sabu]

And no, I'm not gonna exploit 28 buffs "just because all realms can do it".

Not all realms really, just midgard, not sure why.

 

[Filip]

I was referring to the 3-4 sojourner groups that mids use. If I can't grapple a savage then I should at least be able to guard/bodyguard without taking a zephyr ride twice a fight, no? So what's left to do, kill the savage ofc, that's until he grapples you just before he dies and runs away 2 seconds later and you can't grapple him back.

i understand it can be piss anoyning.... but tbh then you should try play an alb group...

1-2 graplers
0-1 soujouners

in the end it is not fun only to kill enemy groups who fuck up or noob it otherwise......

i dustet my old minser off and startet toaing on him only becuase i cba'ed to RvR as alb atm....

 

[tierk]

Indeed, but hibs get(or at least, got ;p) most benefit of this because of the numerous casters, rvring as a warrior is basically a deathtrap, 1 bad step near a hib tank (blademasters whore grapple too, interesting how zerkers mainly pick banelord, like light tanks should) and whack, I am standing still awaiting to be pbaed.

But you ignore the meaning of my sentense, this is a terrible feature, unfair at most, why do you put the allrealmsgetthisability blanket on it?

Besides, I could get grapple immune on my warrior too, just cba to redo my template and put ds in. I don't come whining here that boohoo I got grappled and killed, as it is the part of the game,which I accept, not happy about it, but hey, indeed it is a feature.

On another side note tho, grapple is a positive effect, as I firstly stated it in this topic. A lazy bit of coding(or, lack of coding I should say) from mythic, to make it unpurgeable.

Edit: Someone said it doesn't work like a normal positive effect, which is indeed correct, I've found it to be the exact copy of the charmed pet buffs on a player, which aren't cancelable either, or so they were some time ago.

Well i wouldnt expect you to come here bitching about getting grappled as its part of the game like you said. However, on the other hand if u cannot see this as a abuse of the game then there is not point going on about it as u will not be persuaded that it is.
Also i find it funny that u can come here to these forums and make a statement that all bm should go banelord, like all light tanks should do because zerkers do as nonesense statement. So now the problem isnt that people are abusing mechanics of the game but its the hibbies fault in there choice of ML's??? Would please also note that, regardless of it being a terrible feature or not (i actually agree it is hideous) it is open to all realms.
The 28 buff capp isnt something mythic intended, as u rightly point out just a lazy bit of coding, so i dont see how it can be called anything but abuse. I mean come on having a water breathing effect up in emain ffs. If that aint pushing the boundaries then i dont know what is, considering that it is stated clearly that they dont work in none toa enviroment.

 

[Stallion]

There is no sane reason to dpsdebuff a caster/seer but pbae disease snares and halves heals on the target (okok not spreadheal) - if neither of them interrupted, pbae disease would still be good vs casters while dpsdebuff would be worthless.

Whining about dpsdebuff is useless tho, its part of the game and its a powerful tool, would be stupid to not use it. Same thing with 28buffs.

28 buffs beeing part of the game... its not a spell.. it something u do to get 28 buffs so u cant get some negatives. meaning? your immune to some kind of spells/abilities. dps debuff debuffs a targets melee dmg and interrupts if it goes thru 71% chace. And dont give me the crap u just gave me... dps debuffing a caster/seer is worthless. so is spamming mezz for interrupts.

 

[Gregorian]

Like you did during last two years

zoy never left apk with less than 4fg for the last 2years fyi
get ur facts straight mate

 

[Shangrila]

Indeed, but hibs get(or at least, got ;p) most benefit of this because of the numerous casters, rvring as a warrior is basically a deathtrap, 1 bad step near a hib tank (blademasters whore grapple too, interesting how zerkers mainly pick banelord, like light tanks should) and whack, I am standing still awaiting to be pbaed.

Well.. as hib you are running around till you suddenly get insta mezz from behind. Bard (if not mezzed) casts a mezz or insta mezz and 7/8 resist the effect. Then some savages + SM come running into your group, the druid hits GP and suddenly.. you are AE stunned \o/ and the SM pwn you, or you get grappled and PBed, or 3-4 of your group get zephyred and the rest ripped apart/PBed, or (in case there are no SMs) you get wtf lull spammed and insta diseased while being zephyred and the savages are meleeing one after the other for like 700-1500dmg / round every 1.5sec. When the group is dead some random kobi runs around doing a /rude or /laugh, makes him feel uber i guess. Very funny :-/

 

[raid]

28 buffs beeing part of the game... its not a spell.. it something u do to get 28 buffs so u cant get some negatives. meaning? your immune to some kind of spells/abilities. dps debuff debuffs a targets melee dmg and interrupts if it goes thru 71% chace. And dont give me the crap u just gave me... dps debuffing a caster/seer is worthless. so is spamming mezz for interrupts.

Mezz is castable spell and its supposed to interrupt, insta debuff is different case. And I'm not whining about dpsdebuff itself, its just the hypocrisy which annoys me... according to you and many other hibs abusing feature which is not working as intended is ok aslong as you're the one benefiting etc

 

[katt!]

while now in the odd chance that a shapechange is down or something and they DO get grappled they'll go into panic mode and start spamming all of their buffs which is quite funny.

you mean like hibs getting caught with gp down and their casters dying before it wears off. they just stand there, spaming grapple and wondering why the tanks dont die

 

[Flimgoblin]

Now, assuming the 28 buff thing isn't fixed in 1.69...

but afaik the grapple self-stun det thing is fixed so you get full duration...

will those people abusing it at the moment keep on abusing away?

 

[Stallion]

Mezz is castable spell and its supposed to interrupt, insta debuff is different case. And I'm not whining about dpsdebuff itself, its just the hypocrisy which annoys me... according to you and many other hibs abusing feature which is not working as intended is ok aslong as you're the one benefiting etc

ive never supported grapple.. I dont find _ANY_ joy at all playing with abusers using it 24/7. BUT I do enjoy dps debuff c0z I dont think its something to be nerfed.. ill justify it with pb disease.. and hasent been mentioned by mythic. once it has ill remove it from QB pre nerf.

 

[Grimst3r]

uke:

 

[Hotrats]

ive never supported grapple.. I dont find _ANY_ joy at all playing with abusers using it 24/7. BUT I do enjoy dps debuff c0z I dont think its something to be nerfed.. ill justify it with pb disease.. and hasent been mentioned by mythic. once it has ill remove it from QB pre nerf.

Just remove all insta interupts imo!

If dps debuff was meant to inteurpt how come str debuff doesn't then? or dex debuff, or any of the others? Can't think of many instant cast debuff spells in the game that interupt and are meant to.

Anyway like i said, would be best if all instant non damage spells didn't interupt INCLUDING resisted amnesia!!!!

 

[Grimst3r]

Just remove all insta interupts imo!

If dps debuff was meant to inteurpt how come str debuff doesn't then? or dex debuff, or any of the others? Can't think of many instant cast debuff spells in the game that interupt and are meant to.

Anyway like i said, would be best if all instant non damage spells didn't interupt INCLUDING resisted amnesia!!!!

Yes?

 

[hellige]

Just because you annoy me:
http://support.darkageofcamelot.com...250PTQyJnBfY2F0X2x2bDE9NzAmcF9wYWdlPTE*&p_li=

if that link dosen't work..go to camelot herald. find 1.51 patch notes and read the following:

- Instant cast debuffs should no longer interrupt other player casters and player archers.

now plz remove it from qb

 

[Icebreaker]

Now, assuming the 28 buff thing isn't fixed in 1.69...

but afaik the grapple self-stun det thing is fixed so you get full duration...

will those people abusing it at the moment keep on abusing away?

The CS Kiddies will continue with it.

 

[CorNokZ]

wtf?!

Mids can use bugs...
But albs can't zerg?

 

[ilaya]

10 th page wow! such utter bullshit from mids trying to defend.. and hibs and albs saying yes.. its wrong

oi! i am a shield spec champ designed to defend casters.. if i DONT grapple.. pointless me being there aint it?

ever since Zzangs whine about VW's and champs using grapple and still being able to cast spells.. well that was fixed in days werent it?

now u check the msg.. u are unable to attack in melee.. hello.. should still be able to cast spells surely.

another point.. remember peeps in hib getting suspensions for worm in df from hib? surely same thing should happen to mids until this is fixed.. coz clearly u are all aware of it and are exploiting it.

fo mids. you make me sick.

and fastbelly.. nice to see you out in emain again tonight... arsehole

and yes it is having an effect on numbers of hib in emain btw.. we cant be bothered with that shit.. alb zerg we can fight against.. but not mid cheats

suppose its just mids making most of it until they get they slapdown they deserve in NF.. bring it on imo.. although they'll prolly find someway around it

 

[Aldrick]

Pathetic imo. Especially since NP was grapplemonkeys and dps spammers on prydwen before they went back to Excal. Just show some ppl do whatever it takes to win just like the American sprinters.

 

[Grimst3r]

Pathetic imo. Especially since NP was grapplemonkeys and dps spammers on prydwen before they went back to Excal. Just show some ppl do whatever it takes to win just like the American sprinters.

IMO NP left after getting wtfpwnd alot by the hib grps, so no grapple involved there...just a few radarpride's left..like mobstomper and fastbelly/fatbelly ..yes I know you like to highten fatbelly to the skies. but from what i've seen he's as good as the rest when not in a fg.

 

[Belomar]

oi! i am a shield spec champ designed to defend casters.. if i DONT grapple.. pointless me being there aint it?

Ahh, and what happened to slam, guard, and intercept? Not to mention bodyguard? So it is true that you have zero skill in addition to being a clueless?

 

[rvn]

grapple is BS it has allways been, so is savages remove both please

 

[rvn]

Mids can use bugs...
But albs can't zerg?

who said albs arent allowed to zerg?


oh and not like 99% of all hibb support used windowdrag lagg when it was possible but i guess thats perfeclty "ok" (however you start bitching instantly when others play dirty against you.)

oh and belomar, all the crap defensive tanks love grapple, since they cant even stick their bodyguard, or guard correctly on the ppl who need it, all they manage to do is F8, and fire off grapple. (seem to enjoy afk-rvr)

 

[cougar]

IMO NP left after getting wtfpwnd alot by the hib grps

uhm?

 

[ceixava]

xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

if you ppl still cant realize what an ungrappled savage (grapple being about the only thing you can do vs them) can do to your seer's and casters i have nothing more to say here

and having pom, waterbreath, acuity etc etc doesnt actually qualify as "im just using my class spec ability" cougar...

 

[cougar]

xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

if you ppl still cant realize what an ungrappled savage (grapple being about the only thing you can do vs them) can do to your seer's and casters i have nothing more to say here

and having pom, waterbreath, acuity etc etc doesnt actually qualify as "im just using my class spec ability" cougar...

Just play as you did before toa and you add the fact that you have bodyguard. How can you lose to melee with all that? maybe sucky heros? xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

 

[Stallion]

Just because you annoy me:
http://support.darkageofcamelot.com...250PTQyJnBfY2F0X2x2bDE9NzAmcF9wYWdlPTE*&p_li=

if that link dosen't work..go to camelot herald. find 1.51 patch notes and read the following:

- Instant cast debuffs should no longer interrupt other player casters and player archers.

now plz remove it from qb

so pb disease is included

 

[Stallion]

Just play as you did before toa and you add the fact that you have bodyguard. How can you lose to melee with all that? maybe sucky heros? xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

so true, true true!.

when we had no grapple we had slam
when we had no bg we had guard

now ppl just completly neglect them and just use bg/grapple. = lose

 

[Hestethun]

grapple is BS it has allways been, so is savages remove both please

aMeN

 

[Warlock]

so pb disease is included

Does it interrupt casters ?

 

[cougar]

Overview :

after Toa, savages were grapple-able, including all of NP, remember ZZang's thread about nerfing Grapple.

After IGN whine, about 28 buffs, every savage is ungrappleable.

Conclusion : Bug-abuse.

Anyways, don't really care tbh, because we will just roam as 2fg till shit is sorted.

so you run with only 2 fgs thx to grapple? is that a promise?