Fire Wiz

[Turran]

Would like a few opinions about these. Are they nice for RVR groups? Fun to play?
All opinions are welcome!

Thanks,

 

[Old.Fanta]

wizardssux

 

[Damnnationx]

wizardssux

Any class you play can sook or roxor...its all a matter of oppinion of what ya wana do.. Wana burn shit die alot or pboe then wiz is good for you.

wana play a caster that kicks ass? roll a thurg or sorc

 

[Old.Fanta]

u are rigth m8 but some chars are more group friendly because they has more utility than others, Wizard dont have anything good that cant be done better by other class. Bolts sux, and a caby can do more damage than Fire wizards. But anyways if u have to roll a wizz go to ice line imo

 

[Zdeath]

u are rigth m8 but some chars are more group friendly because they has more utility than others, Wizard dont have anything good that cant be done better by other class. Bolts sux, and a caby can do more damage than Fire wizards. But anyways if u have to roll a wizz go to ice line imo

I've seen alot of wizards do their job better than a cabalist does in some occasions, wizards are good it just requires a good player to bring out some potential.

 

[Konah]

I've seen alot of wizards do their job better than a cabalist does in some occasions, wizards are good it just requires a good player to bring out some potential.

true, but every good wizard would do better with a cabby imo

 

[Kinag]

u are rigth m8 but some chars are more group friendly because they has more utility than others, Wizard dont have anything good that cant be done better by other class. Bolts sux, and a caby can do more damage than Fire wizards. But anyways if u have to roll a wizz go to ice line imo

Clueless.


I'm playing a Fire Wiz in our guild group, and it's going great.

We got a body sorc as well, so he debuffs heat for me.

I'm outdamaging our cabalist without doubt, even getting a few 1k hit with nukes now with my new RAs pec.

 

[Arelas]

I will say cabby sucks more when i like wiz more and play the a lot better then other caster....

But the depends on what ppl will play self.... There self pay then there self pick a class there like to play

 

[Turran]

Thanks for replies,

I am going to roll a fire wiz, loved play my wizard when it was spec fire.. but i use the ice so much so dont want to respec it so ill make another one

 

[Old.Fanta]

Clueless.

A wizard only can do damage, and u need a body sorc to do that well, i dont care what are u running in gg. Im just saying Cabalist utility for an alb group > wizard utility, no more

 

[Arelas]

Wizard can do more damage damage and got longer range with 2 bolts so wiz can easy kill one off them faster then a cabby can do m8...

 

[Old.Fanta]

wizards rox in an alb caster group!

 

[Oboy]

utility: caba > fire wizz
range: caba > firewizz
fun toys to play with: caba wizz (ml9+rr5 rocks in fg vs. fg)
survavibility(sp): caby > wizz (lifetap)
damage: wizz > caby

only thing thats wizz is better on is damage and u need a body sorc to debuff that takes up a important spot in the group. And i bet caba do more dmg then wizz if u fire ml9+rr5 in the right time. I would never sacrifice NS+desease etc for the pure dmg output but if you want fun and do sieges from time to time a wizz sure is viable.

 

[Arelas]

Range are still wiz there win there and not cabby.....

 

[Rhori]

Would like a few opinions about these. Are they nice for RVR groups? Fun to play?
All opinions are welcome!

Thanks,

get another 6 account, make 3 extra wizzies, a cleric and a mistrell.. spec all the wizzies ice and then you'll have fun , <team wizzie EU>

 

[Golena]

Range are still wiz there win there and not cabby.....

If your standing on a tower yes...

The cabby nearsight is greater than the wizards bolt so in open field the cabby has greater range.

In fg v fg fights cabby's win hands down every time.

If you want a damage nuker get an air theurg. Way more utility than a wizard and a nuke that hits harder.

If you don't care about performance and just want to burn stuff, roll the wizard ofc!

 

[Arelas]

I will say wizard every time because i like the more, but the is up to ppl self what there will play

 

[Valgyr]

Why have the body sorc debuff for the fire wizzy? more dmg al over if the body sorc just assists the spirit spec cabby? a tad lower delve but again u gain the util. alb has 3 good casters wizzy is not among those 3

 

[Kinag]

Reason we're running a wiz (me) is because we already have a rr10 Sorcerer that has been body for a long time. Being a wizard in that group means I'm the main damage dealer, and he debuffs quite often so I can take down enemies.

Now we're running that setup and it's going fine, so no point for people who's never actually tried to play one in a fg to come here and talk down the class.

Some of the ideas thrown up on this board sounds like they're coming straight from the vnboards.

I know a cabalist can do stuff better, but in our situation, a fire wiz ain't all that bad as most of you want it to be.

 

[Valgyr]

Reason we're running a wiz (me) is because we already have a rr10 Sorcerer that has been body for a long time. Being a wizard in that group means I'm the main damage dealer, and he debuffs quite often so I can take down enemies.

Now we're running that setup and it's going fine, so no point for people who's never actually tried to play one in a fg to come here and talk down the class.

Some of the ideas thrown up on this board sounds like they're coming straight from the vnboards.

I know a cabalist can do stuff better, but in our situation, a fire wiz ain't all that bad as most of you want it to be.

Im not saying its bad, its a nice class its just that other classes do the same dmg(almost) and bring alot of other stuff to the grp. Havent fought ur grp in a long time, but fought enclave with aurores and the nalbs b4 cluster and both did well with a fire wizzy in grp

 

[Kinetix]

1-Wizard does more dam the cabby depends just how you spec it...ok forget moc and forget utility....but doing nukes for 800-1000 dam and stick a VP3 on it...auch...if you got heat debuff...


2-ok you dont have ml9 pet wich sux but then again droping 1-2 bolts on enemy caster for insta kill...cant see caba do that


3- Ppl talk about range for tower fighting....hmm wake up ppl...most important part of tower fight is wall hug and doing aoe dam. Once fight gets inside i dont see a cabby outdo fire wiz dam unless your matter cabby and you drop a couple of aoe dots. I once even saw a mids zerg get zerged by 3 fire wizis while entering a keep....i mean assisted aoe dam...

The fact is Wizis have been loosing credibility over the time agains other classes due to the so called "leet" groups and therefore less probabilty of entering groups. Its a fact that wizards have a very short life time on a battle, but i´ve seen some good fire wizis outdo sorcs both in dam and in RPs over the week. if your a pyromaniac and your good with wiz just play it. if you think its sorc/caba/air theurg the best for you go for it.

 

[Kinag]

Kinetix put it very nicely.

 

[Serdan]

Well, Fire Wizzies are fun. Nothing compares to the feeling of watching your fireballs flying to the targets, you almost can feel their horror, as they are starting to understand that they are going to die now and nothing can save them.*


* (Well, except blocking, being "in fight", capped fire resist or wind change ).

 

[Kinetix]

Well, Fire Wizzies are fun. Nothing compares to the feeling of watching your fireballs flying to the targets, you almost can feel their horror, as they are starting to understand that they are going to die now and nothing can save them.*


* (Well, except blocking, being "in fight", capped fire resist or wind change ).

Yes sooo true....in those cases the horror goes to the fire wiz "my precious! he blocked my precious!!"

 

[Oboy]

2-ok you dont have ml9 pet wich sux but then again droping 1-2 bolts on enemy caster for insta kill...cant see caba do that

sure bolts are nice, but no winner, only caster that u will 1-2 shot with bolts are ungrouped unbuffed gimp ones, any caster in a group with good resists will survive easy, specially with DI up or with a healer who see the inc bolts and heal. Then u always have the miss/block rate.
Fire wizz sure is fun in sieges specially with a another wizz or two assisting with aenuke or bolting archers in towers, the fun will end quickly thou when u get owned by
1) RoGlock zerg
2) Castable stun
3) Shrooms
4) Boredom

pick ur chooise

 

[Kinetix]

sure bolts are nice, but no winner, only caster that u will 1-2 shot with bolts are ungrouped unbuffed gimp ones, any caster in a group with good resists will survive easy, specially with DI up or with a healer who see the inc bolts and heal. Then u always have the miss/block rate.
Fire wizz sure is fun in sieges specially with a another wizz or two assisting with aenuke or bolting archers in towers, the fun will end quickly thou when u get owned by
1) RoGlock zerg
2) Castable stun
3) Shrooms
4) Boredom

pick ur chooise

1) If a RoGlock is at high distance you send bolts/ml9 pet and run. If its at DD range no caster can think of surviving the 500-600 nuke X3
2) both wizs and sorcs and cabas share same RA called purge
3)A barrier of shrooms is still a barrier of shrooms dont see any sorc/caba avoid that ( it was seen how usefull they were on Hib relic raid xD )
4) yes I agree with you...but if wizis cant get into groups cause everyone thinks like you its normal they get bored of soloing ( they werent made for single play )~

And 5)! There was a Wiz that made more Rps then any sorc/caba in alb/pryd in a week....

 

[mikke]

sure bolts are nice, but no winner, only caster that u will 1-2 shot with bolts are ungrouped unbuffed gimp ones, any caster in a group with good resists will survive easy, specially with DI up or with a healer who see the inc bolts and heal. Then u always have the miss/block rate.
Fire wizz sure is fun in sieges specially with a another wizz or two assisting with aenuke or bolting archers in towers, the fun will end quickly thou when u get owned by
1) RoGlock zerg
2) Castable stun
3) Shrooms
4) Boredom

pick ur chooise

oh well, a RoGlock zerg would prolly pwn any class. and nr2 is a very silly statement. its like saying sorcs sux just becouse hibs got baseline stun. nr3 i think wizies can handle better then cabbies, becouse they can atleast AEnuke them apart, unlike cabbys, that got no AEdmg\mess. 4 i cant say anything about couse ive never played a wiz in grp

 

[Gazon]

Wiz is sub-optimal. Only becomes reasonably good at higher realm rank. But then the wiz is only as "good" as a lower rr cabalist, sorc or theurg and those have the potential of becoming "uber" while the wiz will stagnate.

I'm still hoping for some wiz <3<3<3 in 1.83

 

[Kinetix]

"... or with a healer who see the inc bolts and heal...."

Dam thats one hell of a fast healer 400dex+ + Reflexes of doom

 

[Everz]

Lets say i fear wizzies more then cabbies