Ffs Fuck His Human Rights!!!

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Thadius said:
Kinda funny, people can seemingly get into the UK easily, getting them out again is the problem ;)
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Well, he has lived in the UK all his life (apart from the first couple of years) and he is an EU citizen. He's paid his price for what he did.
 
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if it saves us money im all for it.
 
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guess not all of us believe that. i belive if you try to stab a child but then stab to death someone protecting that child, you no longer deserve to be an asset.
 
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Tris, then I think you should try to change the system. Because that is how it is... and IMO should be.
 
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im afraid little old me cant make the government change anything :)

or if i could, i cba anyway. id rather sit back and complain and do nothing about it, its just easier.
 
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The deputy governor of Chindamo's prison had written a letter to the tribunal saying that the 26-year-old was one of only a few offenders he had met whom he believed had demonstrated a change for the better and was capable of a "lawful and purposeful" life on release.

Seems to me he might be ready to get on with life, after all he served his time. 10 years in prison, lost a good deal of his youth, seems like a harsh enough sentence :>
 
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crispy said:
The deputy governor of Chindamo's prison had written a letter to the tribunal saying that the 26-year-old was one of only a few offenders he had met whom he believed had demonstrated a change for the better and was capable of a "lawful and purposeful" life on release.

Seems to me he might be ready to get on with life, after all he served his time. 10 years in prison, lost a good deal of his youth, seems like a harsh enough sentence :>
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An eye for an eye imo.

Just stick him in the chair and throw the switch. There is no excuse for murder.
 
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Is it just me or does he look lke Will Smith? might be because im watching independance day atm..... but still ....
 
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Bugz said:
I'd burn you alive too if you'd like me to! :d. Does that negate the racist or make me doubly racist? :(
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Well, we're both white :( So I'm not sure how that counts.. Maybe it makes you "Anti 'pigmentally challenged'" So.. DOUBLE RACIST!
 
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Bugz is white? Here I thought he was a black man from the ghetto!
 
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They should ask the victim or the familly of victims of crime what the punishment should be, seeing as they are invariably the ones most effected by stuff like this.

Where i live now, the way murder cases work is that the victim gets to choose if the murderer should face death or not - obviously if found guilty. If they show mercy then the relatives of the victim are paid blood money and if they dont show mercy, then its all over for the muderer.

Much fairer system, i think, then the crap we have in the UK were you get people commiting murder and walking about free a few years later.
 
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tierk said:
They should ask the victim or the familly of victims of crime what the punishment should be, seeing as they are invariably the ones most effected by stuff like this.

Where i live now, the way murder cases work is that the victim gets to choose if the murderer should face death or not - obviously if found guilty. If they show mercy then the relatives of the victim are paid blood money and if they dont show mercy, then its all over for the muderer.

Much fairer system, i think, then the crap we have in the UK were you get people commiting murder and walking about free a few years later.
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I am all for the death penalty in serious cases, but having a family member decide is moronic. True justice is never served because money does not bring back a loved one.

While the justice system is a joke at the moment, there has to be a line where people who have served their sentence can get on with their lives. It is already hard enough for them to get employed having a criminal record, yet we pretty much push them back into a life of crime because they are not given a chance to show that they have learned from their errors.
 
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Calaen said:
I am all for the death penalty in serious cases, but having a family member decide is moronic. True justice is never served because money does not bring back a loved one.................................

While the justice system is a joke at the moment, there has to be a line where people who have served their sentence can get on with their lives. It is already hard enough for them to get employed having a criminal record, yet we pretty much push them back into a life of crime because they are not given a chance to show that they have learned from their errors.
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I am all for allowing people who have commited minor crimes a chance to rebuild there lives as you have rightly pointed out its is difficult enough for them to get back to a normal life after being released.

However, for what i term serious crimes such as rape, murder and peadophilia (nerf my spelling) i think that the courts in the Uk have got it seriously wrong. People shouldnt be getting out of jail after 4 years for rape or child abuse. Murderers shouldnt be coming out of jail after sometimes as little as 7 years.

Your point about money not bringing back a loved one is correct, but the reason a option for blood money is available is not so much to give financial restituation but to give the relative of the victim every chance and opportunity to forgive the perpatrator as this is considered to be very good thing. The money aspect is also good as it helps to take care of the relatives in the case that the person killed is a bread winner for example.

One recent case involved a Yemeni man who killed a fellow Yemeni here in Qatar a number of years ago. The children of the victim, the only surviving relatives, were considered minors and the sentence was kept on hold till they reached a age that was legal for them to decide. When the reached majority age (this year) they opted to have the execution carried out rather then collect the blood money, which was quite a substancial amount. This was justice served in my book. Some might disagree.
 
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