FF & F... Good rules?

[Atomic Rammer]

I've only been playing TFC a few months and so for the first time last night I came across a server that had friendly fire and footsteps on. What wicked games. Much less grenade spam from defending team. More care taken with explosives all round. Spies are fun to defend against 8)

Of course a 'comedian' goes for the most negative frag score by team kills. But he got bored when people just ignored him and its over in a matter of minutes.

Is this the only reason these rules aren't more widespread on public servers? If so it's a shame.

Anyone played these rules for longer and found more to dislike about them?

 

[old.KTM]

I think that if friendly fire was on too many games would be spoilt by teamkillers.
I agree that it does cut down on spam and makes the game more tactical but unless there is someone with rcon present it is too easy for someone to ruin everyone elses game.

I do think that footsteps should be on though.
It makes it easier on defence when you can hear people coming and therefore means attackers have to either walk quietly or run in knowing they can be heard approaching.

 

[old.Mad Kain]

Footsteps could be a welcome addition if a lot of people liked it, I'm ok by it, but a lot of people don't like the idea.

As for FF its a bad idea. It would make the virtually all classes a pain in the neck to use, and would cause a lot of trouble. Just imagine dropping a mirv accidently in your own respawn, and watch the amount of people you kill
And as such, FF would be just inviting TK'ers to come to the server and spoil the games even more.
Regards.

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[This message has been edited by Mad Kain (edited 18 December 1999).]

 

[old.bee]

your probably find most team killers have gone to counterstrike servers

but friendly fire will completely destroy playability due to the many idiots that are out there

 

[old.TuFF_NuT_2_KraK]

i think that the footsteps are quite useful. i mean, i just crouch and walk next to a wall, and continue like that, and then you can hear things above your own footsteps(there's a useful hint!!!).
but i disagree with the Friendly Fire.
It really pisses me off.
1) there's the people who just walk up and kill their own team...

Booooo!
2) and then there's the people who you shoot accidently, thinking they're on the other team, and when you stop they start killing and shooting you.... AND THEY DON'T STOP!!!!
so i say that you should get rid of FF... but keep footsteps on....
bye,
Counter-strike fanatic
P.S. and don't stop killing your own team just to go into CS and do the same bloody thing!!!!!!!!

 

[Atomic Rammer]

I'm still undecided on the friendly fire issue but I'm for it in principle. Main objections seem to be fear of team killers, but consider this:

I went on one of the xs4all servers recently and they have it configured so that anyone who commits 7 team kills in a game gets kicked. Warnings come up when you are on about 5/7. This weeds out a lot of idiots. Still some come along though but this process could be improved.

Determined team killers would reconnect, but it can't be that hard to automate a ban for a day on people that are kicked a certain number of times. Maybe after you get kicked your teamkill limit could go down. Maybe if your total of team kills in a day reaches a certain level (including previous connects) then you are banned. Kicked people could be prevented to reconnect for 10 mins or so.

A combination of these could be quite effective in eliminating this problem, and implementation of them appears to be of comparable difficulty to what xs4all is already doing. Anyone know how its done and if it would be hard to do some of those I mentioned?

 

[old.TuFF_NuT_2_KraK]

hm....
but is that likely to happen???
probably not
it'd be good if it did, though
i mean, i hate those fucking CS people, who, change their name, and just kill their team, run out and die automatically, not giving their team a chance.
anyway, in CS, who said all people spam???
maybe total retards in TFC spam, because they have nothing else to do, but i, for one, think most people rarely spam.
i would also like to say, please go and look at my other... uh, poste message forum thingies, because it would mean a lot to me.... thank you


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[old.TuFF_NuT_2_KraK]

hm....
but is that likely to happen???
probably not
it'd be good if it did, though
i mean, i hate those fucking CS people, who, change their name, and just kill their team, run out and die automatically, not giving their team a chance.
anyway, in CS, who said all people spam???
maybe total retards in TFC spam, because they have nothing else to do, but i, for one, think most people rarely spam.
i would also like to say, please go and look at my other... uh, poste message forum thingies, because it would mean a lot to me.... thank you

 

[Atomic Rammer]

>hm....
>but is that likely to happen???
>probably not

Well, probably yes. Someone has already bothered to do it on xs4all and so it is possible they will improve it.

>who said all people spam???
Yeah, who said that?

P.S
Barrysworld run game servers here in UK, and so there is MAINLY UK players reading here.
If you want to join an aussie clan you're making it a bit difficult for yourself. Aren't there any msg boards in Oz?

 

[old.TuFF_NuT_2_KraK]

i dunno
never heard of one.....???
can you tell me one???
and how am i making it dificalt?????
argh
ui spelt that werd like shit!